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Sorry. I did not have it quite right. The live pad stores pattern, jam and intensity. Midi commands can be used to turn on Fill Very Change or to trigger fills, etc.
You can also use any number of midi tools to create create super presets that send multiple commands at once or sequence things. You could, for instance use something like LK to sequence songs by triggering live pads, etc
ok cool, thanks
Thanks wim
know of any tricks to get AUM to see the iRig Blueboard? It's there in the list and the Blueboard app has it connected, but in AUM it reports as offline?
The routing box allows me to connect it even though the Setup Menu reports it offline...I'll see if it still works...
Make sure it isn’t in its proprietary mode
haha, yep...been caught out by that one before...good news is it now all works as expected, even though it reports as offline under the Bluetooth central, connecting it to drum app via the midi routing box works and I can control drum app with it.
Now to sort selecting different banks patterns and kits...I vaguely recall something about being able to connect one iPad to another using midimttr from a couple of years back, I'll see if I can find that vid on YT...that might be the final piece of the puzzle.
Thanks to everyone for your tips, thoughts and general assistance, much appreciated!
midimttr works great for setting up blietooth midi between idevices
You don't need midimittr. You can connect directly using AUM's Bluetooth dialog.
Not iPad to iPad you can't
Yes. You can.
But, use mitimitter if you prefer. It will accomplish the same thing.
Yes, I looked at that section with both iPads BT set to on, and it did not appear! In fact any BT devices it showed as inactive, even when they were connected - the iRig blueboard for example. Now the blueboard still actually worked, but showed as inactive in the Bluetooth central list.
TBH, it didn't work in midimttr either...the main iPad does not see the iPad mini, and vice versa.
It looks like from a previous post that you're using the Blueboard app? You don't want to do that if you're trying to connect directly to the Blueboard from AUM. If you need to use the Blueboard app for mappings then forget the Bluetooth dialog in AUM. In that case the Blueboard is connected directly to the Blueboard app, and it's really the Blueboard app connection that you're seeing in AUM. I hope that makes sense.
To connect two devices without midimittr, fire up AUM on both. On one go to "Peripheral" and enable advertising for the device. Then you should see it on the other device under "Central". If that doesn't work then please clarify the model and iOS version of the Mini.
ahh, well that is one bugbear with IK, the Blueboard will ONLY work with the app running in the background. Believe me I've been down that road before!!
What iOS version are you using? Obviously from your screenshots AUM is seeing the devices, however both of my iPads "see" each other under BT, however they will not pair. I am running iOS 15.5 on both, mini 4th gen.
Just to check I re-ran it following exactly as you describe, neither device is displayed.
I think I will give up on getting it to work how I would like, I'll install Unrealbook to the mini and create dummy songs and set midi data in those. At least it works. Will mean doing two selections at the start of a song, but that's a lot easier than the alternative hahaha!
That's incorrect. I use my Blueboard without the Blueboard app. In fact, it's de-installed from my devices.
To use without the Blueboard app you need to start up in BLE Midi mode 1 or 2. Mode 1 sends Notes and Mode 2 sends CCs. To start up in mode 1, hold down button B while powering on the Blueboard. To start up in mode 2, hold down button C while powering up.
See the iRig manual, page 9-12, for complete details.
You do need firmware version 1.2 or higher on the Blueboard. If you don't have that then this won't work until you upgrade the firmware. That's another subject.
To make sure it's clear:
If that doesn't work then are you sure that Bluetooth is on on both devices? If so, then try going to iOS Settings > Bluetooth on both devices. If you see the Blueboard listed there, tell iOS to forget those connections. They are not needed and can interfere with BLE Midi connections.
This isn’t true. I never use the Blueboard app and use my Blueboard constantly. You need to put your Blueboard into the correct mode as mentioned earlier in the thread . I use my Blueboard with a variety of devices using ios 11.x through the current version
You need to ”advertise” one of the iPad’s to be seen by other devices. You can use midimittr, AUM and some other apps to advertise the device to see other devices.
thanks guys yes I get all of that and I've done it several different ways, fact is neither comes up in AUM...I will try "forgetting" the device under the bluetooth in iOS settings and see if that helps.
I recall I tried running the blueboard on that other mode, but IIRC Lumbeat apps then will not see it! However that was with the apps in stand-alone, perhaps from within AUM it will be ok.
So I just tried it again and I WAS in mode B already - all that happens is the the bluteooth light on the blueboard keeps flashing, as in, it is NOT paired...AUM does NOT see it as a BT device! It also does not pair under iOS bluetooth settings, and I thought it was already, but juts to satisfy you I checked and it IS 1.2
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Lumbeat apps don’t have the Bluetooth connection panel. So, you need to use an app that has that to make the connection. For example, AUM or midimittr (and may other apps) have that panel. Once the Blueboard is connected -- the LUMBeats will see it -- and you don't need to go through the app that was used to make the BT connection.
Below is what I see in SoftDrummer after using midimttr (but it could be any app that can establish a BT connection) was used to to make a connection to the Blueboard.
@pax-eterna : how about showing us screenshots of the process you are using to connect to your Blueboard AND tell us which mode you are using to boot your Blueboard. Once you have switched to the right mode, it will keep it until you switch modes.
Already was in B -and fw is 1.2 - I've always used it in mode B...AUM is simply not seeing it, it only sees the app. And with the BT light on the blueboard flashing, meaning it is not connected anywhere its never going to work!
One thing to bear in mind, and I am not sure if it makes any difference, IK made some changes for the second iteration of the board...you can tell which version by the USB port in the battery compartment....if it has one model 1, if it doesn't model 2
And yes I have done that EXACTLY several times, both ways IE starting on the alternate iPad and running the same process!!
neither iPad appears under the bt central (or peripheral for that matter) listing!!!
Something strange is going on. What you describe is unusual. And it doesn’t matter which Blueboard you have.
Which type of Blueboard do you have?
Are you running the latest firmware? You can check by downloading the firmware installation app. In fact, running that app is maybe the first thing you should do.
Make sure that you have not paired your Blueboard with your device in the OS Bluetooth settings (I don’t even know if it is possible…if it is you don’t want it rememberer there).
Try the following:
Report what happens.
Please show screenshots of each step. This sounds like a step is missing.
Well, with all respect, if there is a step missing it is in the instructions posted as I followed it EXACTLY!
Only just replaced the batteries yesterday - there is a Blueboard updater app, it reports latest FW is already installed 1.2 (as I wrote above.)
Blueboard does not pair under iOS Bluetooth (in settings) it simply does not see it as bluetooth MIDI devices such as this cannot be paired with iOS.
Also done the hard reset a couple of times...about the only thing left is to reset the network settings, although in my experience with iOS that rarely makes a difference. My blueboard is model 2
Yes, I concur something strange IS going on!
Please post screenshots. At this point, it is the only way I can think of to spot whether the instructions we gave were inadvertently incomplete or if you are not doing a necessary step without realizing it.
Let me see if I understand, are all the following true?:
I'm stumped. It makes no sense, if you've followed all steps, that both the Blueboard and the other iPad aren't able to connect. One or the other should work, provided Bluetooth is enabled on both the devices. I'm going to assume that's the case and that you're not in Airplane Mode or anything.
TBH, the only thing I can think of that would cause that is if Bluetooth was off on the iPad you're trying to connect to. But then you wouldn't be able to work with the Blueboard app. So weird!
You don't have the Blueboard app running, do you? Maybe that's interfering in some way.