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Mpc one vs iOS?
I’d love to hear from people who owns both the mpc one and an iPad full of apps what they love using more?
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I've owned both, the mpc one has a lot going for it from the perspective of being a complete system that you can easily make completed tracks on, I bought mine after a hiatus having previously owned the og live and found all the button per functions seriously sped up the workflow, that being said the mpc workflow is pretty arcane and clunky in places and definitely forces you in direction you might find stifles creativity.
In the end I sold it because of the friction when it came to building completed tracks.. some people love it though....
I'm still an active iPad user and whilst beatmaker 3 has some serious shortcomings, it's maschine like workflow is definitely more productive for me plus the synths available on the iPad are far better than the standalone stuff on the mpc imho..
Basically for me there's far more ways to skin a sample on the iPad, it's more portable and more powerful.. they do make pretty good bedfellows though, you can route audio and midi to and from the mpc from an iPad with minimal effort so if you're into samplers you can do a lot worse than the mpc one..
I loved my MPC one, ended up selling due to my wife hating the constant clicking of the buttons and I had just started discovering the world of iOS synths so was an easy switch to iPad
It’s definitely a great all in one box, but for me the synths and apps on iOS now are a way better package plus you constantly get new stuff updates etc, every app you buy carries across to your next upgrade, you can use most of them portable on your phone when the inspiration strikes.
I don’t miss it, but I do miss everything being on real buttons, can’t beat a hardware box for feel..
I think it depends on what you’re looking at doing.
I have owned both and I only sold my MPC One to buy a cheap Maschine+ locally.
If you’re looking at using samples heavily and making your own as opposed to relying on sample packs etc I’d say the MPC is a better choice as it’s a one box solution, no dongles or extra attachments needed.
However if you want to use lots of synths and have a wider palette of sounds and you cool with adding an audio/midi interface, midi controller and whatever else you require to the iPad then I’d say that is the solutions for you. Horses for courses etc.
Get Both. I love both and can't see myself without either. I sample my many ios synths into my mpc one, especially since the new update that makes mapping a breeze
Same what @gdtimes21 said : sold my One because of the very clicky buttons , but I do the miss of real knobs and buttons. But, the One and the iPad can go very well together.
My wife hated the clicking of my SQ80’s keyboard. I’ve still got my SQ80.
And the wife?
Haha it was more clicky than any other hardware I’ve used thou, a cheap plastic click
The ex. All good thing’s….
I got my M1 and MPC One at nearly the same time.
I have always wanted an MPC and the One’s form factor, power and price is perfect to my eyes. I got both because I have slowly built a hybrid workflow having a combination of hardware/analog gear and apps. In addition, I’m slightly paranoid that iOS music production is unstable so I desired to have a standalone, hardware workflow as a backup just in case Apple makes changes in the future that discourages developers 🙃
Overall, I love both workflows since I can combine them in so many creative ways. My MPC allows me to connect to modular gear, “old school” sample (hip hop head), continue the “touch screen” experience (which I feel is the best way to interact with audio), the price was right for a completely standalone DAW and much much more.
Along with some carefully selected MIDI/MPE controllers and analog synthesizers I can jam like a one-man band. As far as my iPad, no hardware nor desktop system matches iOS power to usability ratio: iOS is the ultimate modular environment, with an interface to control everything by touch, plethora of low cost - creative apps/plugins and more; besides mobile is the future of all computing!
Yes have both which make a great hybrid combo driving MPC One with Midi FX on iPad is great fun. You can use either one as the brain of a setup. Would say the iPad more versatile as MPC workflow is not obvious. Got a Polyend Tracker recently so that’s getting all the love at present.
Have you tried connecting all three: IPad, MPC One and Polyend?
Definitely try it. I have sold my MPC1 because I have discovered iOS and was since searching for something better. After trying many groove boxes / machines including Digitakt, Roland MC707 and Akai Force, i have sold them all and kept only Maschine Plus.
@Stuntman_mike No not yet want to get my head around full capability of the Tracker first. I find if I throw to many options into the mix the creativity goes out the window and I just end up sending midi all over the place and actually don’t get a lot done. Could be fun though!
one big + for MPC is that it is still actively developed, with regular massive updates, they are really listening to customers, adding new features and fixing bugs and looks like at least for next 2-3 years this platform will not end as discontinued abandonware - it's literally their flagship number one product.
Which, unfortunatelly, cannot be said about any current iOS DAW (not at the extent of MPC OS updates).
Big plus over ipad is that you have all audio/midi input outputs + physicall knobs packed all in one device - with ipad you need a tons of cables and external devices to hace comparable I/O/control setup. Would not fade this aspect.
Plus they released (for free) desktop DAW which is 100% compatible (in terms of project file)
which hardware OS. Which in undoubtly big advantage.
need to say for last year my main production enviroment is none of above mentioned, but Digitakt/Digitone. But sometimes i'm looking at MPC One and it's still opened topic for me - price/power ratio extremely good for One.
i find them to be a great pair:
They are, MPC love it, it works really well with lot’s of other hardware too, via USB, midi and cv.
They pairing of the MPC One and the iPad are my fav and default go to choice for a compact do almost everything set up. I use an iConnectaudio 4+ to pass audio and midi directly between them and a usb hub that has an Ethernet port on it to also sync them via Ableton link.
I do like this, definitely considering using both. Having another standalone device would give me a lot more control…..in saying that I could just get another iPad……hmmm not sure if I have GAS or the mpc would fit into my setup nicely
Some good points right there, with akais last update it really seems like they are actively always making their devices better
Oh really you chose Maschine plus over akai force. Everyone is saying Maschine plus is unstable, how is your experience with it and why did you choose it over the force?
Do you much prefer the Maschine workflow and sounds? I don’t really sample stuff, more of a live looper with loopy pro where I use guitar and vocals to make music, I’ve recently incorporated BeatHawk, Korg module and SynthMaster 2 as sounds to beef up my performance and head towards more of an electro vibe. I know I can do it all in loopy but I’m thinking now that the mpcone might be an easier way of handling the electro side of things, as loopy doesn’t quantise midi and my keyboard playing is a little sloppy. I was thinking even maybe looking at getting another iPad…..or the Maschine mk3 with my laptop might work well but I like the idea of the touch screen on the mpc one. Do you miss the touch screen?
In my searches for second hand mpc’s I found someone who was selling an akai live 2 but then with the recent update is now keeping it, he said I could come over and have a play with it to see if it could fit into my workflow so that’s cool. I’m now going to show him ableton live and the world of IOS in return
Playability and workflow mostly. I believe there is a perfect hardware device for everyone out there, you just need to try a few and find out what works the best for you. The pads on Maschine are just pure pleasure to play. I know that MPC has been in the game for decades but I find their pads to have a sensitivity of a wooden block when in contrast pads on Maschine always deliver the same pleasurable and predictable playing experience.
When you dig in the internet you can also get a lot of user sounds utilizing the build in NI synths (there are few hundred presets on elektronauts forum). Expanding already rich sound spectrum of Maschine.
Akai Force looks good on paper but I just could not create anything exciting on this thing. I do not say it’s bad, it just didn’t work for me.
And believe me I also had a period when I wanted to sell Maschine Plus but when you familiarize yourself with it, it really is a joy to use. No stability issues. I believe that’s an Internet rumor or perhaps refers to the older firmwares.
PS. Plus very cool feature - when you connect M+ to the computer it integrates with Maschine software you have access to tons of other great sounds.
If we’re tossing out other hardware i’d also suggest the SP404mk2. The recent 2.0 firmware has made this a great instrument to pair with the iPad and everything else:
Being able to have Audio/Midi over USB-C has been wonderful.
I’m eyeing the new MOC 61 to use in tandem with my iPad Pron M1 (Scaker, Riffler , Loopy Pro , etc
Love using them together. I had the One and sold it after I got the Live 2. Live 2 has Bluetooth so it makes using the iPad even better. You can pair them and send midi. Also use Ableton Link over Wi-Fi. Plus the speaker means, for drumming up ideas you don’t need headphones.
I found that everything that was lacking in iOS was present on the MPC. And with how cheap Fabfilter and all the synths and fx are on iPad, it's really great to mix and master on the iPad. I also use a Tascam Model 12 to record all my tracks from the MPC and then put them in the iPad. It's actually really great.
Using the 404 as an interface for the iPad I can sample into the iPad with fx and use the midi syncing and so much more. It's a great portable setup as everything has batteries and/or can be run from power banks.
I don’t have a preference between them for workflow and would just as happily have another MPC One they both have their own strengths and weaknesses, I don’t miss the touch screen now although there was a period of time when I first got the machine+ that I kept trying to the touch the screen but that soon passed. 😂
Just installed the new os on the 404mkii…can’t wait to dive in!
I re purchased a SP 404 MK2 to check out the new update. Already sending it back.
It's a great update, but the workflow and shortcuts is driving me nuts.
Just to record a guitar loop while a beat is playing feels like gymnastics.
And on topic: The MPC One is the best price/value package. Especially with the new updates. I really recommend the Fabric suite. Lots of great sounds (but wait for a discount)
Oh ok, that’s good to know about the Bluetooth midi and ableton link, that’s pretty handy for sure. That’s quite a setup you have there!