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  • @Krupa said:

    Where it’s at 😬

    (Could be worse I’m sure)

    I’m sure it could be.
    I’ve seen some Euroracks on my travels.
    I know for certain that I’m not going to go that deep in the physical right now,
    I’ve already got so much to play with.
    I’ve got four compression pedals turning up next week
    and I like the sound of the distortion pedals so much
    I’m most probably going to get another couple more.
    Luckily I still have some of my gear from production studio work
    so combining all of these things is certainly fun. ;)

  • @Krupa
    The challenge is going to be replacing the potentiometers with vactrols for CV input.
    I would like to be able to modulate the distortion on the pedals.

  • Nice setup, how are finding the witch? Was looking at one of these while back and had forgotten about it. I like the idea of loading different algorithms/programs

    @Krupa said:

    Where it’s at 😬

    (Could be worse I’m sure)

  • @muzka said:
    Nice setup, how are finding the witch? Was looking at one of these while back and had forgotten about it. I like the idea of loading different algorithms/programs

    @Krupa said:

    Where it’s at 😬

    (Could be worse I’m sure)

    The witch has a lot of great presets on the site, but I’ve yet to manage to get anything of my own on there; I want to start with a basic utility type thing, and with my way up from there. A mate is more into the teensy side of things and he’s got a lot deeper than I have so far… some of the library oscillator type things are fun for sure, and there’s good effects to be found, not as many sequencers as I’d expected…

  • @Gravitas said:
    @Krupa
    The challenge is going to be replacing the potentiometers with vactrols for CV input.
    I would like to be able to modulate the distortion on the pedals.

    That would definitely be fun to mess with I’m sure!

  • edited July 2022

    @Krupa said:

    @Gravitas said:
    @Krupa
    The challenge is going to be replacing the potentiometers with vactrols for CV input.
    I would like to be able to modulate the distortion on the pedals.

    That would definitely be fun to mess with I’m sure!

    I've now discovered how much the tone changes
    when overdriving the input on guitar distortion pedals.

    At the moment these are the things I can play with from the sequencer.

    Send and return amount and volume control.

    Everything else is tone control by hand once it leaves the audio interface.
    In the current signal path that I'm listening to
    is an Award SessionMaster pedal.
    It's a guitar preamp designed to go straight in.
    It's a lovely preamp and distortion pedal.

    I already have my JoeMeek opto compressor patched in
    which fattens the sound instantly, it's so musical.

  • @Gravitas said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    I have had both and prefer the Werkstatt cos I do more with modular. I also have the model d and it sounds really good too but I think the Werkstatt filter is my favorite and doesn’t require a gate to open it if you just want to run some audio in to process. But it’s filter can seriously scream, it’s awesome.

    Thank you.
    It’s the filter that I’m interested in actually.

    I placed the NTS-1 on the back burner because you can’t route
    external audio through it’s filter unless you use a third party “plug-in”.

    I think the closest oscillator/synth in the Werkstatt price range is the Crave
    which has a step sequencer etc but I have more than enough step sequencers.

    Yeah I absolutely love the filter, I’ll route Pure acid to it using a CVPal and just get lost in some acid for hours. I have been curious about the Crave and may end up getting one eventually but haven’t had the strong enough need for it.

    Also if you do any DIY, you can find some really affordable LPG kits. I have an active LPG I use in my setup and the hype for them is definitely real

    Yeah, I saw a couple of LPG's for only 30 squids and
    plenty of kits so I'm getting one soon enough.
    They seem to be important for the Eurorack crowd
    so now I'm going to find out why.
    What did catch my eye is a dual VCF so I'm looking for
    a power supply which can power one module or two.

    Yeah I was curious why they were so praised and ended up getting this dual lpg/vca kit for around $70 from Synthrotek. I also have a fold module so I looked into the buchla stuff and use the werkstatt and my model d for fm modulations and use the model d envelope out to an attenuator and run that into the gate of the lpg. If I run the envelope with a really short decay, I get these awesome percussive sounds and the decay on the lpg with the vactrols creates this just magical, bouncy release. It’s really fun to experiment with and I totally get why everyone loves them so much. It’s really cool for bass stuff too.

    I ended up getting the tip top uZeus power supply with the rails to get started on the modular stuff and have been happy with it. I have it powering 8 modules with no issues

  • edited July 2022

    @Fingolfinzz said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    I have had both and prefer the Werkstatt cos I do more with modular. I also have the model d and it sounds really good too but I think the Werkstatt filter is my favorite and doesn’t require a gate to open it if you just want to run some audio in to process. But it’s filter can seriously scream, it’s awesome.

    Thank you.
    It’s the filter that I’m interested in actually.

    I placed the NTS-1 on the back burner because you can’t route
    external audio through it’s filter unless you use a third party “plug-in”.

    I think the closest oscillator/synth in the Werkstatt price range is the Crave
    which has a step sequencer etc but I have more than enough step sequencers.

    Yeah I absolutely love the filter, I’ll route Pure acid to it using a CVPal and just get lost in some acid for hours. I have been curious about the Crave and may end up getting one eventually but haven’t had the strong enough need for it.

    Also if you do any DIY, you can find some really affordable LPG kits. I have an active LPG I use in my setup and the hype for them is definitely real

    Yeah, I saw a couple of LPG's for only 30 squids and
    plenty of kits so I'm getting one soon enough.
    They seem to be important for the Eurorack crowd
    so now I'm going to find out why.
    What did catch my eye is a dual VCF so I'm looking for
    a power supply which can power one module or two.

    Yeah I was curious why they were so praised and ended up getting this dual lpg/vca kit for around $70 from Synthrotek.

    Yeah, I saw those as well.

    I also have a fold module so I looked into the buchla stuff and use the werkstatt and my model d for fm modulations and use the model d envelope out to an attenuator and run that into the gate of the lpg. If I run the envelope with a really short decay, I get these awesome percussive sounds and the decay on the lpg with the vactrols creates this just magical, bouncy release. It’s really fun to experiment with and I totally get why everyone loves them so much. It’s really cool for bass stuff too.

    It’s the last part that got me.
    I love bass, that’s why the distortion pedals are going to come in handy.

    I ended up getting the tip top uZeus power supply with the rails to get started on the modular stuff and have been happy with it. I have it powering 8 modules with no issues

    Sound advice all round.
    Yeah, I don’t want to skimp out on the power module
    because it’s going to be with me for a long time.
    I want something that will be efficient and stands the test of time.

  • edited July 2022

    Oh yeah.

    Here’s a screenshot of the AN kick in dRambo
    going out and then returning via an audio interface.

    The top waveform is the AN kick with applied latency and the bottom one
    is the same signal returning back from my Lexicon MPX 200.
    which still sounds really good though I have loads of other reverbs.

    The signals are out of phase so when listening
    back they cancel each other out.
    If it were really precise then you wouldn’t hear anything at all
    but as you can tell from the recording, you can still hear a faint click.

  • Phase cancellation in action.

    AN Kick drm out to the Lexicon MPX 200 and
    back again via the Behringer UMC 1820 via SPDIF.

  • edited July 2022

    @Gravitas
    Because I’ve got so many step sequencers available now because of dRambo
    I really don’t want anything that has a step sequencer anymore..

    Honestly never touched sequencer on Crave, always sequenced it externall, build in sequencer is shit :)))...

    Crave it's very overlooked/underestimated synth by many, but it sounds as good as Moog Mother32 and perfectly integrates in modular enviroment, yet it's incredibly cheap (for what it can do)

    There is one more suggestion from me - Dopepfer Dark Energy (prefferably MK2 cause it has multimode filter, MK1 has only lowpass) - amazing synth, and it's LFOs are capable go up to audio range, you can modulate both osc/filter so you can get pretty wild sounds out of it.. and it looks sexy as fuck !!

  • edited July 2022

    Okay.

    Is there anyone in London with a Modular setup
    willing for me to head over and plug-in to experiment for
    an afternoon and we can video it to show everyone else.

  • Have a look at this.

    Stevie Wonder "Songs in the Key of Life" documentary.

  • The aforementioned documentary discusses
    Stevie Wonders techniques in the studio
    which I found it quite interesting should we say.

    Okay, back on topic.

    Well...

    I was talking with one of my students this afternoon and we got deep.
    I don't know if anyones noticed but for the past few days
    I've been window shopping as it were and for almost every Eurorack module
    that I came across, even in theory, I found an iOS equivalent.

    For instance I was tempted by a really nice stereo filter,
    which I'm probably still going to get but not now,
    and instead I loaded up the JAF Collection and that was that.

    30 stereo filters and an oscillator included, what more can be said.

    Thanks to my student I can now look for some other things.

  • Yeah I spend a lot of time thinking what to get cos I don’t have a lot of expendable income and there’s a lot of stuff I can pass on because of mirack. It works really well with my cvpal or just using it on another device and using the output of the iPhone/iPad. I end up usually just getting stuff for audio processing and performance based stuff plus things like mixers and attenuators and logic stuff just cos I don't have a way to send analog cv to the iPad.

    Great find on that website too, those are some awesome prices. I may end up getting some of those modules if they ship to the states

  • @Fingolfinzz said:
    Yeah I spend a lot of time thinking what to get cos I don’t have a lot of expendable income and there’s a lot of stuff I can pass on because of mirack.

    I hear you on this.
    MiRack is really cool for exploring modular.
    In my searches I kept on coming across the same names inevitably
    and quite a few were in MiRack already.

    It works really well with my cvpal or just using it on another device and using the output of the iPhone/iPad. I end up usually just getting stuff for audio processing and performance based stuff plus things like mixers and attenuators and logic stuff just cos I don't have a way to send analog cv to the iPad.

    Yeah, I've been looking at ways to get CV out from the iPad.
    One my interfaces can do CV output but it's voltage isn't standard
    and I haven't been able to test it properly yet hence my shout out earlier.

    Great find on that website too, those are some awesome prices.

    That's what I thought also.

    I may end up getting some of those modules if they ship to the states

    Why not.

    I'm going to try getting in touch directly with
    the company especially as they are local to me.

    They seem to have a good range of modules.

  • For anyone interested in making a CV controlled passive low pass filter.

    https://benjiaomodular.com/post/2021-03-06-passive-low-pass-filter/

  • I also found this.

    It's a
    "±12V Dual Output DC-DC Converter 3V~5V to 12V Step Up Boost Voltage Power Module"

    would this be sufficient to power one EuroRack module?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124204144854

  • Quick update.

    The compression pedals arrived this evening.
    I've temporarily wired them in which basically means
    that they'll stay like that for awhile whilst I delve in.

    The compressors are based upon the Ross compression circuit.
    I don't know how faithful they are to the original
    Ross Compressor but they slam on drums.

    More fun to be had.

  • For anyone who's interested here's a couple of low cost Eurorack stereo filters.

    ST Modular EFI Multimode VCF Eurorack Filter

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275352874399?hash=item401c4f6d9f:g:xzkAAOSwUtdiSODf

    and St Modular Karl

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275392180617?hash=item401ea73189:g:NdwAAOSwq3RidsjV

  • edited July 2022

    This is what it sounds like sending an 808 kDrm sample
    out via my Behringer UMC1820 and back through an
    Award SessionMaster guitar pedal and a Dyna Compressor pedal.
    I've also corrected the signal path for latency and I'm testing
    an approximate gain structure that sounds musical
    though it can be noisy when the SessionMaster is pushed into distortion.

    Edit.

    Oh yeah
    What you're hearing is the 808 sample being crossfaded
    between the clean and the effected signal.

  • If you need to send signals out and back into the box
    here are a pair of utilities to achieve that purpose.
    One is to be used as an insert and the other is to
    line up the other tracks that stay in the box.

    https://patchstorage.com/latency-adjuster-tools/

  • edited July 2022

    @Gravitas said:
    I also found this.

    It's a
    "±12V Dual Output DC-DC Converter 3V~5V to 12V Step Up Boost Voltage Power Module"

    would this be sufficient to power one EuroRack module?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124204144854

    It’s only 30mA so would have to be a teeny teeny module, they each have amp ratings on their specs as building a system and psu to match is a big part of the euro card game 😁

  • @Krupa said:

    @Gravitas said:
    I also found this.

    It's a
    "±12V Dual Output DC-DC Converter 3V~5V to 12V Step Up Boost Voltage Power Module"

    would this be sufficient to power one EuroRack module?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124204144854

    It’s only 30mA so would have to be a teeny teeny module, they each have amp ratings on their specs as building a system and psu to match is a big part of the euro card game 😁

    Thanks for that.
    I've noticed the whole thing about power supplies and Eurorack.
    One false move and the whole rig is gone.

    I'll check the current ratings for the module
    I need to get as I only need one for my purposes.

    In the meantime I'm about to reconfigure one of my usb interfaces,
    now that I have one spare, as a EuroRack stereo filter alternative
    to see what I'm hearing in my head in action.

  • @Gravitas said:

    @Krupa said:

    @Gravitas said:
    I also found this.

    It's a
    "±12V Dual Output DC-DC Converter 3V~5V to 12V Step Up Boost Voltage Power Module"

    would this be sufficient to power one EuroRack module?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124204144854

    It’s only 30mA so would have to be a teeny teeny module, they each have amp ratings on their specs as building a system and psu to match is a big part of the euro card game 😁

    Thanks for that.
    I've noticed the whole thing about power supplies and Eurorack.
    One false move and the whole rig is gone.

    I'll check the current ratings for the module
    I need to get as I only need one for my purposes.

    In the meantime I'm about to reconfigure one of my usb interfaces,
    now that I have one spare, as a EuroRack stereo filter alternative
    to see what I'm hearing in my head in action.

    Nice, and yeah, don’t mess about with the psu, I think people even get fussy about stability of them, quite a tricky thing, but simple with nicely spec’d stuff…

  • @Krupa said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @Krupa said:

    @Gravitas said:
    I also found this.

    It's a
    "±12V Dual Output DC-DC Converter 3V~5V to 12V Step Up Boost Voltage Power Module"

    would this be sufficient to power one EuroRack module?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124204144854

    It’s only 30mA so would have to be a teeny teeny module, they each have amp ratings on their specs as building a system and psu to match is a big part of the euro card game 😁

    Thanks for that.
    I've noticed the whole thing about power supplies and Eurorack.
    One false move and the whole rig is gone.

    I'll check the current ratings for the module
    I need to get as I only need one for my purposes.

    In the meantime I'm about to reconfigure one of my usb interfaces,
    now that I have one spare, as a EuroRack stereo filter alternative
    to see what I'm hearing in my head in action.

    Nice, and yeah, don’t mess about with the psu, I think people even get fussy about stability of them, quite a tricky thing, but simple with nicely spec’d stuff…

    Agreed.
    Making sure the power supply is smooth for audio recording is a big thing in pro studios.
    Not only the psu that supplies the power but
    also the rest of the stuff in the house or premises.
    Dimmer switches for instance can be a nightmare when recording.
    Another example is need for usb isolators to remove usb bus noise and
    ground noise.
    I'm about to rewire my rig so it's at the forefront of my mind.
    Talking of which I've just received a new usb hub.
    One moment.

  • @Krupa said:

    @Gravitas said:
    I also found this.

    It's a
    "±12V Dual Output DC-DC Converter 3V~5V to 12V Step Up Boost Voltage Power Module"

    would this be sufficient to power one EuroRack module?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124204144854

    It’s only 30mA so would have to be a teeny teeny module, they each have amp ratings on their specs as building a system and psu to match is a big part of the euro card game 😁

    I've found another one on AliExpress which gives an output current up to 800ma.

    Here's the link

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32789671683.html

  • edited August 2022

    I have a Behringer UMC1820 and I've hooked up
    my old school blackface ADAT to use for
    extra inputs and quite possibly Eurorack CV signals.

    I was getting digital clocking problems between the UMC1820 and
    the ADAT machine via Lightpipe so I connected up the UMC1820
    to my ancient desktop and changed the internal clock to external
    and set the ADAT machine digital clock to internal then
    I reconnected my Behringer to my iPad.

    Result?

    No more clicks.

    Edit.

    Once the power is switched off the UMC1820
    then it resets it's digital clock back to internal
    and you have to go through the same process again.

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