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Icegear - Nambu (FM)

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  • GavinskiGavinski

    @CalCutta said:
    Apologies if this has been commented on already. I want to sing the praises of the Envelope color grouping idea for this synth. As someone who mainly uses hardware and iOS synths, I haven't seen a grouping-scheme for individual stages across multiple envelopes before. Brilliant idea! The fact it's optional as well is even better. All the kudos for that.

    Fantastic feature, agreed!

  • GavinskiGavinski

    I have had a shit ton of problems with the following:

    Saving tweaks of nambu presets in the AUM menu. Then often when i choose a new preset from the AUM menu, nambu freezes and crashes. I try to reopen another instance of Nambu, but i get the endless spinning circle and need to restart AUM and restore last session. Anyone else getting issues with this? It's driving me bonkers and I'm not sure if it is an AUM problem or a Nambu problem. It seems more likely to happen if a key on the AUM keyboard is latched while changing, but has also happened without any notes being played. Have mailed the dev about this. If anyone else has had the same issue, please also contact him.

  • SamuSamu

    @Gavinski said:
    I have had a shit ton of problems with the following:

    Saving tweaks of nambu presets in the AUM menu. Then often when i choose a new preset from the AUM menu, nambu freezes and crashes. I try to reopen another instance of Nambu, but i get the endless spinning circle and need to restart AUM and restore last session. Anyone else getting issues with this? It's driving me bonkers and I'm not sure if it is an AUM problem or a Nambu problem. It seems more likely to happen if a key on the AUM keyboard is latched while changing, but has also happened without any notes being played. Have mailed the dev about this. If anyone else has had the same issue, please also contact him.

    I personally avoid using the AUM preset system as those presets can not easily be shared between different hosts...
    ...but that's just me.

  • myapologiesmyapologies

    This looks very cool and possibly a bit over my head, but has anyone been using this on an older device, 2018 iPad 6 or similar? Curious about performance. I’m still a beginner. Any relevant info appreciated. Thank you.

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    How many presets does Nambu come with? Lagrange didn’t have as many as I had hoped. The @Spidericemidas and @richardyot free packs for Lagrange helped though. I know spida said he is making one for Nambu, but I’m curious how many Presets come with Nambu ? Thanks.

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @Samu said:

    @Gavinski said:
    I have had a shit ton of problems with the following:

    Saving tweaks of nambu presets in the AUM menu. Then often when i choose a new preset from the AUM menu, nambu freezes and crashes. I try to reopen another instance of Nambu, but i get the endless spinning circle and need to restart AUM and restore last session. Anyone else getting issues with this? It's driving me bonkers and I'm not sure if it is an AUM problem or a Nambu problem. It seems more likely to happen if a key on the AUM keyboard is latched while changing, but has also happened without any notes being played. Have mailed the dev about this. If anyone else has had the same issue, please also contact him.

    I personally avoid using the AUM preset system as those presets can not easily be shared between different hosts...
    ...but that's just me.

    Me too. Only on a few apps where the internal app preset system isn’t great.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @david_2017 said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Can’t wait! Looooooove icegear / iceworks

    you are already playing around with it, confess ;)
    Hope it will be able to do some contemporary bass design as heard from noisia, black sun empire and threof

    I should be 😂 but unfortunately when I downloaded it it only downloaded as IAA (a fairly common bug) so I deleted and tried to reinstall. As it is not on the appstore yet I can't reinstall. Totally feeling like a junkie whose fix got taken off them just as the needle was about to enter the vein lol

    Did you install it from TestFlight? If so, you should be able to re-install it from there.

    No - the app has been approved by the store, just a manual release! But thanks for checking

    There isn't a separate IAA and AU. It sounds like you ran into a common issue which is that sometimes you have to reboot after downloading an AU (it doesn't matter if it also has an IAA counterpart) before the OS updates its database. It is a random OS thing that has nothing to do with IAA.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @david_2017 said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Can’t wait! Looooooove icegear / iceworks

    you are already playing around with it, confess ;)
    Hope it will be able to do some contemporary bass design as heard from noisia, black sun empire and threof

    I should be 😂 but unfortunately when I downloaded it it only downloaded as IAA (a fairly common bug) so I deleted and tried to reinstall. As it is not on the appstore yet I can't reinstall. Totally feeling like a junkie whose fix got taken off them just as the needle was about to enter the vein lol

    Did you install it from TestFlight? If so, you should be able to re-install it from there.

    No - the app has been approved by the store, just a manual release! But thanks for checking

    There isn't a separate IAA and AU. It sounds like you ran into a common issue which is that sometimes you have to reboot after downloading an AU (it doesn't matter if it also has an IAA counterpart) before the OS updates its database. It is a random OS thing that has nothing to do with IAA.

    Yes should have just rebooted instead of deleting and trying to reinstall. Lesson learned, thanks Ed.

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps

    This is the first iOS synth in a bit that has captured and held my attention.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Poppadocrock said:
    How many presets does Nambu come with? Lagrange didn’t have as many as I had hoped. The @Spidericemidas and @richardyot free packs for Lagrange helped though. I know spida said he is making one for Nambu, but I’m curious how many Presets come with Nambu ? Thanks.

    Off the top of my head maybe 40. Icegear synths never come with many presets.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @Poppadocrock said:
    How many presets does Nambu come with? Lagrange didn’t have as many as I had hoped. The @Spidericemidas and @richardyot free packs for Lagrange helped though. I know spida said he is making one for Nambu, but I’m curious how many Presets come with Nambu ? Thanks.

    10 bass
    11 bells
    13 keys
    10 pads
    20 synths

    So, not a lot and they are very "buttoned down" relative to what you can do with this beast. I have been delighted with how easy it is to tweak, though. And of course the masters will be arriving with their presets here soon, I'm sure.

  • ervinervin

    @Spidericemidas said:
    It's a beautiful thing! The UI is gorgeous! Starting work on a presets pack for it. 😜

    My first thought was something like this from you when I first read about the new app 👍

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    This app is worth ever penny

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    This app proves that sound UI choices can truly make a difference.

  • dendydendy

    Am I dumb, or blind, or both, or there os really no FEEDBACK ? I mean oscillator feedback, literally one of crucial cornerstone features of every good FM synth....

  • KrupaKrupa

    Well this is all very exciting to discover after a hard day at the pixel face, it doesn’t happen to work on Mac as well does it?

  • SamuSamu

    @dendy said:
    Am I dumb, or blind, or both, or there os really no FEEDBACK ? I mean oscillator feedback, literally one of crucial cornerstone features of every good FM synth....

    Each 'FM Operator' has a positive/negative feedback knob that can be modulated?!

    The regular oscillators don't...

  • wimwim

    This thing is amazing. I can't believe the depth that is presented in such a straightforward UI.

    The only thing I wish is that the matrix was not limited to top-down routing. As soon as I get into a patch, I find myself wanting to see what would happen if I, for instance, modulated operator A by operator C instead of the other way around. There's no way I can see to do that without re-doing the patch.

    FL Studio's Sytrus synth has a full matrix rather than this half-matrix style, and it's very powerful.

  • wimwim

    @dendy said:
    Am I dumb, or blind, or both, or there os really no FEEDBACK ? I mean oscillator feedback, literally one of crucial cornerstone features of every good FM synth....

    Is not dialing up an oscillator's modulation of itself the same thing? Honest question, since I'm no expert on FM.

  • SamuSamu

    @wim said:
    This thing is amazing. I can't believe the depth that is presented in such a straightforward UI.

    The only thing I wish is that the matrix was not limited to top-down routing. As soon as I get into a patch, I find myself wanting to see what would happen if I, for instance, modulated operator A by operator C instead of the other way around. There's no way I can see to do that without re-doing the patch.

    FL Studio's Sytrus synth has a full matrix rather than this half-matrix style, and it's very powerful.

    You can easily swap the positions of the operators when needed... (ie. swap A and C in your example).
    Full matrix would eat more CPU and/or potentially introduce latency...

    My main gripes with Nambu for now is the limited speed range of the step sequencer/modulator (it's stuck at 1/16th as its fastest speed).

    If you've already to Sytrus use that for its specific things.
    Nambu is not meant to be a 'it can replace everything' synth :sunglasses:

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @wim said:

    @dendy said:
    Am I dumb, or blind, or both, or there os really no FEEDBACK ? I mean oscillator feedback, literally one of crucial cornerstone features of every good FM synth....

    Is not dialing up an oscillator's modulation of itself the same thing? Honest question, since I'm no expert on FM.

    Yes, feedback in an FM synth means the amount of an oscillator's output being sent back for use as a modultator.

  • wimwim
    edited August 2022

    @Samu said:

    @wim said:
    This thing is amazing. I can't believe the depth that is presented in such a straightforward UI.

    The only thing I wish is that the matrix was not limited to top-down routing. As soon as I get into a patch, I find myself wanting to see what would happen if I, for instance, modulated operator A by operator C instead of the other way around. There's no way I can see to do that without re-doing the patch.

    FL Studio's Sytrus synth has a full matrix rather than this half-matrix style, and it's very powerful.

    You can easily swap the positions of the operators when needed... (ie. swap A and C in your example).
    Full matrix would eat more CPU and/or potentially introduce latency...

    Oooh! OK, I didn't learn how to do that yet. Thanks!

    My main gripes with Nambu for now is the limited speed range of the step sequencer/modulator (it's stuck at 1/16th as its fastest speed).

    Really? Somehow I didn't manage to pick that up the other four or five times you said it. B)

    If you've already to Sytrus use that for its specific things.

    Sure. I'll just bust out the PC, fire up the DAW, build a patch, export/import midi, then render to audio and copy back to the iPad every time I want to change the modulation order. :D

    Nambu is not meant to be a 'it can replace everything' synth :sunglasses:

    Never said it was. Mentioning Sytrus was simply an illustration of the usefulness of a full matrix.

  • SpidericemidasSpidericemidas

    I'm voting this as iOS synth app of 2022. I highly doubt anything else will come along to change my mind for the remainder of 2022. The UI is such a pleasure to look at and use. I would expect this synth should enjoy huge longevity and hopefully become regarded as a classic on iOS. It offers a staggering amount of creative possibilities and sounds lovely. Just blown away and far too excited over this one. 🤤

  • wimwim

    @espiegel123 said:

    @wim said:

    @dendy said:
    Am I dumb, or blind, or both, or there os really no FEEDBACK ? I mean oscillator feedback, literally one of crucial cornerstone features of every good FM synth....

    Is not dialing up an oscillator's modulation of itself the same thing? Honest question, since I'm no expert on FM.

    Yes, feedback in an FM synth means the amount of an oscillator's output being sent back for use as a modultator.

    So, then Nambu has it in spades. Not only for a single operator as many FM synths, but for every operator.
    You good, @dendy?

  • LiquidmantisLiquidmantis

    @wim said:

    @Samu said:

    My main gripes with Nambu for now is the limited speed range of the step sequencer/modulator (it's stuck at 1/16th as its fastest speed).

    Really? Somehow I didn't manage to pick that up the other four or five times you said it. B)

    Oh! As salty as the fries at McD's.

  • wimwim
    edited August 2022

    @Liquidmantis said:

    @wim said:

    @Samu said:

    My main gripes with Nambu for now is the limited speed range of the step sequencer/modulator (it's stuck at 1/16th as its fastest speed).

    Really? Somehow I didn't manage to pick that up the other four or five times you said it. B)

    Oh! As salty as the fries at McD's.

    Yeh - poor taste surely, but I couldn't resist. 😬
    Sorry @Samu I always get this way after prolonged periods in the presence of my mother-in-law. 😂

  • myapologiesmyapologies

    Anyone using on an older device, say an iPad 6? Is it much heavier than LaGrange? Forgive my ignorance, please. I suspect this question may get buried, but happy about the success of this app/developer. Thanks!

  • frosttrance_7frosttrance_7

    @Gavinski said:

    @frosttrance_7 said:
    I just tried it, and I think it is the real spiritual successor to Cassini, not Lagrange. I love how you have ring modulation, noise, filters, and limited sample playback. However, I noticed a few bugs that I reached out to the developer about such as horrible looping for the sine and triangle waves in oscillator shape mode. I am a bit surprised that there are no formant or comb filter types considering they were in Cassini and Lagrange.

    Bugs are likely because the dev doesn't seem to beta test his apps, but report anything and I'm sure it'll be addressed quickly in the next update!

    He reached out to me this morning, but thanks for letting me know.

  • SamuSamu

    @wim said:

    Yeh - poor taste surely, but I couldn't resist. 😬
    Sorry @Samu I always get this way after prolonged periods in the presence of my mother-in-law. 😂

    Haha, No worries :sunglasses:

    I'll try to get in touch with the developer on share some of my ideas and see if they 'click' or not...
    ...I'll always have Drambo for my specific needs :D

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker
    edited August 2022

    @wim said:
    The only thing I wish is that the matrix was not limited to top-down routing. As soon as I get into a patch, I find myself wanting to see what would happen if I, for instance, modulated operator A by operator C instead of the other way around. There's no way I can see to do that without re-doing the patch.

    I hope Satoshi reads this as it is SPOT ON. The Matrix is very cool but it would be so much more usable if it could do what you describe here.

    @Samu said:
    You can easily swap the positions of the operators when needed... (ie. swap A and C in your example).
    Full matrix would eat more CPU and/or potentially introduce latency...

    Wait, how do you do this? You mean manually redo each layer? Or can you actually move them up and down in the UI?

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