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Icegear - Nambu (FM)

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  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @myapologies said:
    Anyone using on an older device, say an iPad 6? Is it much heavier than LaGrange? Forgive my ignorance, please. I suspect this question may get buried, but happy about the success of this app/developer. Thanks!

    I am using it in an ipad 6. I don't have Lagrange. So i cant compare. With a buffer of 128 in Loopy Pro, four instances being driven by Atom Pro has the CPU at about 50%. So, I think it is reasonable light on the cpu.

  • drewinnitdrewinnit
    edited August 2022

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @wim said:

    @Samu said:
    You can easily swap the positions of the operators when needed... (ie. swap A and C in your example).
    Full matrix would eat more CPU and/or potentially introduce latency...

    Wait, how do you do this? You mean manually redo each layer? Or can you actually move them up and down in the UI?

    Theres a Swap button just above the Matrix B)

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @wim said:

    @Liquidmantis said:

    @wim said:

    @Samu said:

    My main gripes with Nambu for now is the limited speed range of the step sequencer/modulator (it's stuck at 1/16th as its fastest speed).

    Really? Somehow I didn't manage to pick that up the other four or five times you said it. B)

    Oh! As salty as the fries at McD's.

    Yeh - poor taste surely, but I couldn't resist. 😬
    Sorry @Samu I always get this way after prolonged periods in the presence of my mother-in-law. 😂

  • myapologiesmyapologies

    Thanks for that good news, @espiegel123.

  • rs2000rs2000

    @Spidericemidas or anyone else digging deeper, can all parameters be accessed (automated) in the AUv3?
    I couldn't find a list on Icegear's website.

  • drewinnitdrewinnit

    @rs2000 almost every parameter seems to be available to automate in the AUv3. Theres a LOT of them, considering the layered architecture of the synth

  • rs2000rs2000

    @drewinnit said:
    @rs2000 almost every parameter seems to be available to automate in the AUv3. Theres a LOT of them, considering the layered architecture of the synth

    Cool, thanks! :)

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    Even for a duffer, this is a lovely bit of work to listen to and fiddle with. Feels like the fullly-fledged product it's predecessors led up to...People will make good things with this.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @drewinnit said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @wim said:

    @Samu said:
    You can easily swap the positions of the operators when needed... (ie. swap A and C in your example).
    Full matrix would eat more CPU and/or potentially introduce latency...

    Wait, how do you do this? You mean manually redo each layer? Or can you actually move them up and down in the UI?

    Theres a Swap button just above the Matrix B)

    Well spotted! I totally missed that

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @oat_phipps said:
    This is the first iOS synth in a bit that has captured and held my attention.

    Really that’s a nice compliment. Still deciding.

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Poppadocrock said:
    How many presets does Nambu come with? Lagrange didn’t have as many as I had hoped. The @Spidericemidas and @richardyot free packs for Lagrange helped though. I know spida said he is making one for Nambu, but I’m curious how many Presets come with Nambu ? Thanks.

    10 bass
    11 bells
    13 keys
    10 pads
    20 synths

    So, not a lot and they are very "buttoned down" relative to what you can do with this beast. I have been delighted with how easy it is to tweak, though. And of course the masters will be arriving with their presets here soon, I'm sure.

    Right on. Thanks for the patch breakdown. Is there patch creation randomizer by any chance?

    There is a Mozaic script that can help randomly make a patch but really like when they are built into a synth.

    I’m sure there will be a few paid and a few free preset packs out soon.

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @myapologies said:
    Anyone using on an older device, say an iPad 6? Is it much heavier than LaGrange? Forgive my ignorance, please. I suspect this question may get buried, but happy about the success of this app/developer. Thanks!

    I’m actually curious about this as well cause I’m on an iPad 6 too. Love Lagrange for several reasons, one of which is it lightness, So I’d love to know how it compares on cpu/DSP usage…

    Quick question… are you using it in a small session. If so add a few more instruments and fx and see how it runs. It’s kind of a long story but Basically there is a memory threshold that needs to be crossed to access the devices full cpu processing power. So if you just have a small AUM session with say 2 apps going, it might not be enough to cross the processing threshold, therefore your device will only operate with partial processing power. However if you add a few apps it will cross that threshold and open up the full processing abilities of the device. Actually making the app pull less cpu. I hope that makes sense, tried to make it as brief as possible.

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @Spidericemidas said:
    I'm voting this as iOS synth app of 2022. I highly doubt anything else will come along to change my mind for the remainder of 2022. The UI is such a pleasure to look at and use. I would expect this synth should enjoy huge longevity and hopefully become regarded as a classic on iOS. It offers a staggering amount of creative possibilities and sounds lovely. Just blown away and far too excited over this one. 🤤

    Whoa, I was on the fence trying to decide… but I think this post just convinced me. @Spidericemidas you should get your 10% commissions on that. Lol.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @myapologies said:
    Anyone using on an older device, say an iPad 6? Is it much heavier than LaGrange? Forgive my ignorance, please. I suspect this question may get buried, but happy about the success of this app/developer. Thanks!

    I’m actually curious about this as well cause I’m on an iPad 6 too. Love Lagrange for several reasons, one of which is it lightness, So I’d love to know how it compares on cpu/DSP usage…

    Quick question… are you using it in a small session. If so add a few more instruments and fx and see how it runs. It’s kind of a long story but Basically there is a memory threshold that needs to be crossed to access the devices full cpu processing power. So if you just have a small AUM session with say 2 apps going, it might not be enough to cross the processing threshold, therefore your device will only operate with partial processing power. However if you add a few apps it will cross that threshold and open up the full processing abilities of the device. Actually making the app pull less cpu. I hope that makes sense, tried to make it as brief as possible.

    Did you see my post? imo, if four instances don't push the CPU hard on my ipad 6, I don't feel the need to test how many instances it takes to bring the cpu to its knees. i think it is safe that this is not CPU heavy.

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock
    edited August 2022

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @myapologies said:
    Anyone using on an older device, say an iPad 6? Is it much heavier than LaGrange? Forgive my ignorance, please. I suspect this question may get buried, but happy about the success of this app/developer. Thanks!

    I’m actually curious about this as well cause I’m on an iPad 6 too. Love Lagrange for several reasons, one of which is it lightness, So I’d love to know how it compares on cpu/DSP usage…

    Quick question… are you using it in a small session. If so add a few more instruments and fx and see how it runs. It’s kind of a long story but Basically there is a memory threshold that needs to be crossed to access the devices full cpu processing power. So if you just have a small AUM session with say 2 apps going, it might not be enough to cross the processing threshold, therefore your device will only operate with partial processing power. However if you add a few apps it will cross that threshold and open up the full processing abilities of the device. Actually making the app pull less cpu. I hope that makes sense, tried to make it as brief as possible.

    Did you see my post? imo, if four instances don't push the CPU hard on my ipad 6, I don't feel the need to test how many instances it takes to bring the cpu to its knees. i think it is safe that this is not CPU heavy.

    Oh I must have missed it. My bad. Didn’t see anything about 4 instances either. I rarely go over 2 of any app (unless using multi-out). Yea no need to push the limits, I was just thinking relatively compared to other Au synths. Based off what you said it sounds like it’s on the low side, thanks for the info.

  • Montreal_MusicMontreal_Music

    Why this synth is more expensive than his others synths? More work involve or new range of price?
    P.s. I will buy it anyways.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Montreal_Music said:
    Why this synth is more expensive than his others synths? More work involve or new range of price?
    P.s. I will buy it anyways.

    Maybe he realized that the others are underpriced and is trying new pricing to see if he can get closer to reasonable payback on his effort.

  • HalftoneHalftone

    @Montreal_Music said:
    Why this synth is more expensive than his others synths? More work involve or new range of price?
    P.s. I will buy it anyways.

    ...This one goes up to 11.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @drewinnit said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @wim said:

    @Samu said:
    You can easily swap the positions of the operators when needed... (ie. swap A and C in your example).
    Full matrix would eat more CPU and/or potentially introduce latency...

    Wait, how do you do this? You mean manually redo each layer? Or can you actually move them up and down in the UI?

    Theres a Swap button just above the Matrix B)

    Well I’ll be ding danged. Totally missed that one. Thanks!

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Montreal_Music said:
    Why this synth is more expensive than his others synths? More work involve or new range of price?
    P.s. I will buy it anyways.

    Maybe he realized that the others are underpriced and is trying new pricing to see if he can get closer to reasonable payback on his effort.

    This

  • Montreal_MusicMontreal_Music

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Montreal_Music said:
    Why this synth is more expensive than his others synths? More work involve or new range of price?
    P.s. I will buy it anyways.

    Maybe he realized that the others are underpriced and is trying new pricing to see if he can get closer to reasonable payback on his effort.

    It makes sense. Is it user friendly as a synth? Because FM can be intimidating for some people (me).

  • SpidericemidasSpidericemidas
    edited August 2022

    @Montreal_Music I've never programmed FM before. But the way things are presented in this synth, makes it dead easy to see and understand what's going on. The operator matrix section is beautiful. You turn a dial and a lovely blue routing arrow will start to appear feeding one operator into another. The visual representation of the operators linked together as you turn the dials, makes the experience feel more real and mechanical somehow. Hard to describe but anyway just absolutely easy to follow.

    And yes, the UI is the friendliest and so well thought out.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Montreal_Music said:
    Why this synth is more expensive than his others synths? More work involve or new range of price?
    P.s. I will buy it anyways.

    Maybe he realized that the others are underpriced and is trying new pricing to see if he can get closer to reasonable payback on his effort.

    Ha, exactly.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Dev confirmed that there can be issues using AUM preset system, not only with this but with all his synths - I'm going to switch to using internal presets. Btw, there is also something in settings you can use to change the behaviour of the pop up windows - i will definitely be changing from the default setting for that.

  • SpidericemidasSpidericemidas

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @Spidericemidas said:
    I'm voting this as iOS synth app of 2022. I highly doubt anything else will come along to change my mind for the remainder of 2022. The UI is such a pleasure to look at and use. I would expect this synth should enjoy huge longevity and hopefully become regarded as a classic on iOS. It offers a staggering amount of creative possibilities and sounds lovely. Just blown away and far too excited over this one. 🤤

    Whoa, I was on the fence trying to decide… but I think this post just convinced me. @Spidericemidas you should get your 10% commissions on that. Lol.

    Lol. I wouldn't normally rave on and on so much about an app here, but this one really is special. The more you examine it, the more you realise the vastness of sound design possibilities that await you. It's quite a remarkable thing.

  • SamuSamu

    So I sent off an e-mail to the developer with some of my weird feature-requests...
    ...let's hope some of them make it to a future update of Nambu :sunglasses:

  • SamuSamu

    @Spidericemidas said:

    Lol. I wouldn't normally rave on and on so much about an app here, but this one really is special. The more you examine it, the more you realise the vastness of sound design possibilities that await you. It's quite a remarkable thing.

    I'm in the same boat. It's very well thought out and 'fun' to tweak!

    If/when the developer gets back to me regarding some of the suggestions I sent I'll fill in with 'Y-Snap Grid' for the Step-Sequencer for more accurate parameter automation.

    The area is too small for accurate editing of the wide range of values so Y-Snap to a specified interval would help.

    I thought I'd never say it but I like the digital noise with keyboard tracking in Nambu...
    ...reminds me a LOT about the SID-Chip :sunglasses:

    Cheers!

  • dendydendy
    edited August 2022

    @Samu said:

    @dendy said:
    Am I dumb, or blind, or both, or there os really no FEEDBACK ? I mean oscillator feedback, literally one of crucial cornerstone features of every good FM synth....

    LOL can't believe i didn't saw it 😂🤣 my only excuse is it was late evening and i was tired like shit 😂🤣 Thanks

    @Spidericemidas
    I'm voting this as iOS synth app of 2022. I highly doubt anything else will come along to change my mind for the remainder of 2022.

    It's very cool synth but save your first place for Butter Synth if it goes out this year ;-)

  • SamuSamu

    @dendy said:

    @Samu said:

    @dendy said:
    Am I dumb, or blind, or both, or there os really no FEEDBACK ? I mean oscillator feedback, literally one of crucial cornerstone features of every good FM synth....

    LOL can't believe i didn't saw it 😂🤣 my only excuse is it was late evening and i was tired like shit 😂🤣 Thanks

    @Spidericemidas
    I'm voting this as iOS synth app of 2022. I highly doubt anything else will come along to change my mind for the remainder of 2022.

    It's very cool synth but save your first place for Butter Synth if it goes out this year ;-)

    Maybe, but I was not that impressed by the beta...
    ...It tries too hard to be 'everything at once' without any clear focus/direction :(
    (Could not even use 4 different samples at once since there was only one sample oscillator back then).

    But yeah, that's just me as there will never be something that is 100% perfect...
    ...If I find something that is 100% 'perfect' I've failed...

    Cheers!

  • ToastedghostToastedghost

    @Samu said:

    @knewspeak said:

    Can the texture samples be used as a modulator and carrier, can you import your own samples?

    Yes, They can be used as both carrier and modulator depending on how you route them in the matrix.
    No, You can't import your own samples, it ships with 128 samples that cover a lot of ground.


    (All the samples/textures one after another, they can be transposed across the keyboard and some have loops too and you can play them polyphonically just like any other operator).

    Check the rest of the videos too, they give a very good overview of the synth.

    Looks like I could sample these one shots for use as drum samples in Sitala

  • SamuSamu

    @Toastedghost said:
    Looks like I could sample these one shots for use as drum samples in Sitala

    Some of them have loops too hehe...

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