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Hopes for iOS music making in 2023!?

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  • ApexApex

    Hope: An iPad with more than one jack. Or maybe just a dedicated power plug.

    Not holding my breath.

  • krassmannkrassmann
    edited November 2022

    @tahiche said:

    My dream is that Drambo would export to Bitwig and that Drambo devices would be translated to Bitwig‘s Grid. The best modular groovebox paired with the best modular DAW - a match in heaven. Okay, Bitwig fanboi out. 🙄

    Man, reading you I’m tempted by Bitwig…but it’d have to be mouse-less. My company laptop is a MS Surface with touch screen, if they would just let me install it. Highly unlikely.

    Well known techno producer Stimming uses Bitwig on a touch screen. I‘m out of luck, because I hate Windows and MacOS doesn’t support touch screens. But there are the fantastic controller scripts of Jürgen Mossgraber that aim to create a control surface that allows mouse less operation. It covers a huge number of popular controllers.

    If you find a way to test drive Bitwig, here you can get the 8-Track version for free in exchange for handing out your email address to the Computer Music magazine.

    @krassmann said:
    @tahiche great post, I fully agree. What makes the iOS niche interesting are the creative indie apps, the modular approaches, for instance with AUM, touch operated instruments. After two years being iPad only I personally gave up on an iOS DAW, settled with Bitwig and I don’t regret it. It’s more like that I’m relieved from the constant frustration that also blocked my creativity.

    IMO modular is definitely the way to go on iOS. AUM is indeed the star in this department.
    This modular approach could also mitigate the DAW situation. Problem with a niche market is that big developments don’t have a clear monetary return. Look at Auria, NS2… massive efforts that stall, struggle or even die because the iOS music market is what it is…
    So what makes sense is to split these efforts. There’s no proper audio editing in any iOS DAW, right?. Implement proper app integration, seamless drag and drop and let a dev work on that specific solution. For example 4Pockets audio editor is way more powerful than any daw audio editor. But without drag and drop or easy daw integration every workflow is overly complicated, boring, inefficient and frustrating. It’d maybe make financial sense for a dev to work on say good audio transient editing as an auv3 and sell 1000 units, whereas Steinberg would have no financial incentive to put that effort into Cubasis… team work!.

    These are very good points. Modularity is maybe the only realistic way to overcome the most annoying shortcomings of your preferred iOS DAW. And yes, drag and drop is a key feature for this vision. The outcry for missing drag and drop should be as loud as for missing AUv3 support. No drag and drop - no purchase.

  • MisplacedDevelopmentMisplacedDevelopment

    @krassmann said:

    These are very good points. Modularity is maybe the only realistic way to overcome the most annoying shortcomings of your preferred iOS DAW. And yes, drag and drop is a key feature for this vision. The outcry for missing drag and drop should be as loud as for missing AUv3 support. No drag and drop - no purchase.

    Agreed. I would also add copy/paste to/from the clipboard to this as well. Any app which has a function to copy and paste audio or MIDI should have an option to use the system clipboard.

  • SergiuSergiu

    Ultra Special Midi Controller Dedicated JUST for Drambo!!!

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:

    @krassmann said:

    These are very good points. Modularity is maybe the only realistic way to overcome the most annoying shortcomings of your preferred iOS DAW. And yes, drag and drop is a key feature for this vision. The outcry for missing drag and drop should be as loud as for missing AUv3 support. No drag and drop - no purchase.

    Agreed. I would also add copy/paste to/from the clipboard to this as well. Any app which has a function to copy and paste audio or MIDI should have an option to use the system clipboard.

    Totally agree

  • sevenapesevenape

    @Sergiu said:
    Ultra Special Midi Controller Dedicated JUST for Drambo!!!

    Oh man... modular midi knobs!!!

  • sevenapesevenape

    @Gavinski said:

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:

    @krassmann said:

    These are very good points. Modularity is maybe the only realistic way to overcome the most annoying shortcomings of your preferred iOS DAW. And yes, drag and drop is a key feature for this vision. The outcry for missing drag and drop should be as loud as for missing AUv3 support. No drag and drop - no purchase.

    Agreed. I would also add copy/paste to/from the clipboard to this as well. Any app which has a function to copy and paste audio or MIDI should have an option to use the system clipboard.

    Totally agree

    this would be amazing

  • SlushSlush

    Anything vintage.

  • Agatha_agaAgatha_aga

    @PeteSasqwax said:

    @Agatha_aga said:
    Turntable for scratching

    This has been available for a long time now. The Mixfader also added a Bluetooth physical crossfader into the mix. YMMV but it's very much possible to scratch with it on some levels

    Yeah, I tried Mixfader app and liked the turntable emulation but as far as I know it has zero connectivity and in general oriented for selling sample IAPs.
    The thing I want is just the turntable part in AUv3 format with ability to load or directly record samples. So you could throw scratches here and there in AUM jam session…

  • SamuSamu

    @Telstar5 said:

    @Sabu : “Roland Cloud for iOS using Zenbeats for a container.” From your mouth to @MatthewAtZenbeats ears, lol.

    That would be the same method Korg would have to use in order to make all 'Gadgets' as AUv3's...
    ...Ie. use Gadget as the 'host container' for all the AUv3s.

    So it only makes sense to have a 'Host Container' that enables/disables AUv3's visible to the other apps...

  • taeotaeo

    RC-20, Knock, Ableton Note update, Drambo getting audio, Loopy getting midi, Beatsurfing 2 becoming a host and being hosted

  • NeuMNeuM

    @Jeezs said:
    Modo drums

    That would be helpful. I’m sure options would be far more limited than the desktop version.

    And MODO Bass would be useful for iOS.

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited November 2022

    @tahiche said:
    I hope Logic Pro DOES NOT make it to iOS. I hope things pretty much the way they are.
    Would I love and do we need a pro DAW?. Sure!. But I’m afraid the iOS music ecosystem is too fragile. Prices are very reasonable, sales are not too big as this is a niche market. The amazing indie devs we all love hardly make a living. The irruption of Logic would be too much of a stress test. And I wouldn’t trade Logic for what we have now. So my hope is that this fragile market survives.

    Introduction of Logic for iPad would help more people graduate to pro or semi-pro audio work. Frankly, I’d just like a few more changes to GarageBand instead: More modeled instruments (guitars and drums would be a good start), a real mixing board added to the UI, ability to change tempo and have mixed and custom time signatures… those are just a few off the top of my head.

  • sevenapesevenape

    @taeo said:

    @PeteSasqwax said:
    I didn't expect we'd get 3 excellent tape delay emulations, didn't foresee the likes of Scaler and Unfiltered Audio bringing their apps to iOS and had no clue that Riffler was even possible. 2022 has been a damn good year on that front!

    My hopes for next year? An iOS Buchla Easel, RNBO allowing people to convert MaxForLive devices into AUv3s and Madrona, Madrona, Madrona!

    There’s a Buchla emulation in Audulus 4 beta

    I know what I’m doing tonight!

  • PeteSasqwaxPeteSasqwax

    @Agatha_aga said:
    The thing I want is just the turntable part in AUv3 format with ability to load or directly record samples. So you could throw scratches here and there in AUM jam session…

    I tend to use it on another iPad, sending audio in through an interface, but AUv3 so that I could live within AUM could be a lot of fun

  • KrupaKrupa

    @sevenape said:

    @taeo said:

    @PeteSasqwax said:
    I didn't expect we'd get 3 excellent tape delay emulations, didn't foresee the likes of Scaler and Unfiltered Audio bringing their apps to iOS and had no clue that Riffler was even possible. 2022 has been a damn good year on that front!

    My hopes for next year? An iOS Buchla Easel, RNBO allowing people to convert MaxForLive devices into AUv3s and Madrona, Madrona, Madrona!

    There’s a Buchla emulation in Audulus 4 beta

    I know what I’m doing tonight!

    Oo I’ll have to try this, though I’d much rather a solid full screen version like the Arturia one…

  • otherTomotherTom
    • More Drambo! IAPs, updates, people building neat devices, music made with it, complaints about it coming up in every thread, everything.
    • New apps from my favorite devs, including but not limited to iceWorks, FAC, Bram Bos, BLEASS, Erik Sigth.
    • More older apps joining the raucous party that is AUv3.
    • More grooveboxes that expose their bits as AUv3 instruments.
    • New instruments that aren’t primarily VA/FM synths or romplers.
    • Bit Boy Studio release 🙏 or at least signs of life.
    • More of basically everything MIDI on iOS, it’s so wonderful to be able to hold your sequencer/piano roll in your hands and poke at it.
    • AUv3 hosts continue to mature so that features like multi-out, plugin delay compensation and full AUv3 MIDI support (including output recording where applicable) are the rule rather than the exception.
    • Improved plugin stability wherever it’s most needed.
    • Sustainable (read: slightly higher) app pricing and pricing models that enable devs to support the tools we use and love for as long as we use and love them.
  • PeteSasqwaxPeteSasqwax

    @Krupa said:
    Oo I’ll have to try this, though I’d much rather a solid full screen version like the Arturia one…

    I'd settle for 2023 being the year of nothing else but Arturia returning to iOS, converting their existing apps to AUv3 and porting all of the V Collection (and then the FX collection...)

  • sevenapesevenape

    @PeteSasqwax said:

    @Krupa said:
    Oo I’ll have to try this, though I’d much rather a solid full screen version like the Arturia one…

    I'd settle for 2023 being the year of nothing else but Arturia returning to iOS, converting their existing apps to AUv3 and porting all of the V Collection (and then the FX collection...)

    Man if that happens I will be happy for the whole year locked in a dark room with a plug socket.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    An iOS version of Reaktor.

    And Ableton Note to do proper sequencing

  • PeteSasqwaxPeteSasqwax

    @sevenape said:
    Man if that happens I will be happy for the whole year locked in a dark room with a plug socket.

    Hell yes!

  • dmncdmnc

    Multiple audio devices on iPads would be nice.

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    I’m convinced Loopy Pro is the only host app I’m ever going to need again. Next year I’m just hoping for midi donuts and multi out for audio sources hopefully next year, along with other inevitable improvements. There’s a decent auv3 app for basically everything else.

    Any improvements to cubasis are also welcome - it’s great for mixing and mastering.

  • KrupaKrupa

    @monz0id said:
    An iOS version of Reaktor.

    And Ableton Note to do proper sequencing

    Having just got reaktor I could dig that so much, crazy crazy thing with the user library

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Krupa said:

    @monz0id said:
    An iOS version of Reaktor.

    And Ableton Note to do proper sequencing

    Having just got reaktor I could dig that so much, crazy crazy thing with the user library

    The community library results in hours of fun - I get lost in the experimental ensembles for days on end..,

  • KrupaKrupa

    @monz0id said:

    @Krupa said:

    @monz0id said:
    An iOS version of Reaktor.

    And Ableton Note to do proper sequencing

    Having just got reaktor I could dig that so much, crazy crazy thing with the user library

    The community library results in hours of fun - I get lost in the experimental ensembles for days on end..,

    Yeah, I’ve only just started digging, insane amounts of things

  • PeteSasqwaxPeteSasqwax

    Cloudlab FTW!

  • wired2moonwired2moon

    What @belldu said basically

    @belldu said:
    It's going to take me most of 2023 just to explore what I've scooped up in 2022.
    …
    But I think I'm most excited about the possibilities for generative music.

    Defo planning to get deeper into the apps I’ve already got (says he who just bought 7 new apps) - I’ll also be praying that none of the apps in my core setup turn into abandonware. Am a bit concerned about the fate of Polythemus for example.

  • cokomairenacokomairena

    Oh I forgot this one:

    Ableton Note midi in

    But I'm hoping for 2022

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    Cubasis 3 with bluetooth will be nice.

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