I want to try a BLEASS app, what is a good one to start with?

Fear2Stop

@oat_phipps said:

@Polyphonix said:

@Grandbear said:

@Samu said:
You can always start with the free Monolit and check if you like the UIs?

I believe this is key, as much is I like some of their on products on paper, I just don't gel with their interfaces

That's how opinions diverge. I see it exactly the opposite way. Bleass UIs are most stringent across all of their products and in the iOS music world. If you know one or two apps, you know all of them and get along with them very quickly. The color scheme may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's one of the keys to getting familiar with their new apps so quickly.

I agree that the general vibe of the Bleass stuff doesn’t jive with me. They usually sound like they look-modern and clinical. The exceptions are the more unique effects I listed earlier (and forgot to include Slow Machine, that’s a good one too).

Their vibe is not my vibe, unfortunately. Quality stuff though.

That's how it is with me...I honestly thought i was the only one who felt that way prior to coming here, judging from other forums and YouTube. I want to like their products, and I appreciate that monolit is free, but the colors scheme and the GUI in general doesn't click with me. Plus...Alpha, Omega, and Megalit all seem similar to me, like too similar. It's not quite Mynth/Flynth/Polywaves level, but close enough to me. As far as the sound goes...it doesn't fit what my group does, so I guess it's for the best.

godfrey

I do enjoy the esthetic.

Gavinski

I love the aesthetic, the colours etc. I agree about some of the synths sounding a bit samey but would be surprised if a deeper explorations wouldn't change my view on that. So many apps, too little time.

Everyone has different taste, especially when it comes to UI colours etc

Kashi

@gkillmaster said:

@craftycurate said:
What are your musical goals & styles?

Omega is great - fresh take on FM and easy to discover new sounds.

Thanks. Always looking for new compelling atypical unusual sounds. Not sure how to describe. Kinda like if Martin Denny got into modualr.

Now THAT I would listen to!

jblock

I avoided Bleass for a long time because of the interface but I’ve grown to like it. I’ll put in a plug for the Bleass Compressor, which I use a lot. Very musical.

frosttrance_7

@oat_phipps said:
Granulizer or Dragonfly. Skip the synths and bread and butter effects. There are always better alternatives. But those two offer unique glimpses into effects.

I find Dragonfly's ring modulation to sound weaker than the ring modulator in MotionFX. I also love BLEASS Delay for its frequency shifter and filters. I think all of the BLEASS "bread and butter" FX are of high quality!

craftycurate

I probably agree about some level of sameyness in some BLEASS products, but Omega is able to create unusual sounds that turn out to be musically useful in many recent projects, where I want to add a bit of secret sauce, more in the domain of a sound effect, perhaps something cinematic, blippy bloopy or lo-fi in feel, and it fills those shoes very well. It does other thigns too, but I'm maybe not using it as dev intended, but when did I ever?

Really worth getting @thesoundtestroom preset pack - Doug has crafted some really great patches from scratch which show off the app's range pretty well, and invite further tweakage.

One thing though - as with other BLEASS apps, I often get CPU spikes when using them in very simple AUM sets - but when the set fills out with some heavyweight apps, the CPU throttling settles down and no problems after that.

oat_phipps

@frosttrance_7 said:

@oat_phipps said:
Granulizer or Dragonfly. Skip the synths and bread and butter effects. There are always better alternatives. But those two offer unique glimpses into effects.

I find Dragonfly's ring modulation to sound weaker than the ring modulator in MotionFX. I also love BLEASS Delay for its frequency shifter and filters. I think all of the BLEASS "bread and butter" FX are of high quality!

Well, we’ll just have to be at war. Bitter, hard-fought, no-holds-barred combat.

ervin

@andowrites said:

@Grandbear said:

@Samu said:
You can always start with the free Monolit and check if you like the UIs?

I believe this is key, as much is I like some of their on products on paper, I just don't gel with their interfaces

That's my issue with Bleass too.

+1.

gregsmith

Bleass filter and delay are so simple and easy to dial in that I use them as if they’re built in to iOS.

Sidekick is also great for simple but effective sidechain.

NeuM

@Gavinski said:

@Polyphonix said:

@Grandbear said:

@Samu said:
You can always start with the free Monolit and check if you like the UIs?

I believe this is key, as much is I like some of their on products on paper, I just don't gel with their interfaces

That's how opinions diverge. I see it exactly the opposite way. Bleass UIs are most stringent across all of their products and in the iOS music world. If you know one or two apps, you know all of them and get along with them very quickly. The color scheme may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's one of the keys to getting familiar with their new apps so quickly.

I love Bleass UIs. Dragonfly, Phase Mutant, Bleass Motion are probably most interesting to me. I prefer Spacefields to Slow Machinem. There are several things I don't like. 1. Inbuilt lfos are cool but until recently rarely had enough destinations. This has improved though. 2. Devs rarely go back and improve on their earlier products, even just by doing something simple like adding more lfo destinations.

Overall though I REALLY like Bleass FX apps, less so the synths. Just personal preference.

I like the simplicity of their user interfaces, but I've noticed it's almost impossible to duplicate a patch exactly on desktop you might create, compared to the iOS version. There are often fractional settings which cannot be precisely controlled on desktop and even the UI on the desktop version is inconsistent with the iOS version (things are in different locations, sometimes the names used do not match). They seem to not be overly concerned about absolute app parity between platforms.

setAI

samplewiz2 is the only one that I've kept and still use. it's the ultimate ASR type sampler just very fast and very deep at the same time-

HotStrange

Alpha is my favorite of the synths but I love Omega too.

Dragonfly and Granulizer are my 2 most used Bleass effects.

Samplewiz2 is great for handling samples and they have a free mono synth to get you started.

Fear2Stop

@setAI said:
samplewiz2 is the only one that I've kept and still use. it's the ultimate ASR type sampler just very fast and very deep at the same time-

That's the only one that tickles my pickle in any way, as I'm actually considering it. How does it rank vs FRMS (which also looks interesting to me)? Wanted to go a bit more abstract as I'm fine on "traditional" synths now

Gravitas

@Fear2Stop said:

@setAI said:
samplewiz2 is the only one that I've kept and still use. it's the ultimate ASR type sampler just very fast and very deep at the same time-

That's the only one that tickles my pickle in any way, as I'm actually considering it. How does it rank vs FRMS (which also looks interesting to me)? Wanted to go a bit more abstract as I'm fine on "traditional" synths now

I have both Samplewiz 2 and FRMS.
If it's your first foray into granular synths then go with Samplewiz 2
but if you want to dive into the deep end get FRMS.

andowrites

@jblock said:
I avoided Bleass for a long time because of the interface but I’ve grown to like it. I’ll put in a plug for the Bleass Compressor, which I use a lot. Very musical.

Me too. I almost returned Megalit, but I found a couple of sounds I love in it, and have started making presets solely from those as a basis, so I'm staying with it.

Fear2Stop

@Gravitas said:

@Fear2Stop said:

@setAI said:
samplewiz2 is the only one that I've kept and still use. it's the ultimate ASR type sampler just very fast and very deep at the same time-

That's the only one that tickles my pickle in any way, as I'm actually considering it. How does it rank vs FRMS (which also looks interesting to me)? Wanted to go a bit more abstract as I'm fine on "traditional" synths now

I have both Samplewiz 2 and FRMS.
If it's your first foray into granular synths then go with Samplewiz 2
but if you want to dive into the deep end get FRMS.

What can you in do in one that you can’t do in the other? FRMS doesn’t seem that tricky to me at least from the YouTube videos (unlike Tardigan lol ) Do both work in iOS GarageBand as auv3 (Spacecraft doesn’t according to App Store)? I might grab whichever one goes on sale first lol

Gravitas

@Fear2Stop said:

@Gravitas said:

@Fear2Stop said:

@setAI said:
samplewiz2 is the only one that I've kept and still use. it's the ultimate ASR type sampler just very fast and very deep at the same time-

That's the only one that tickles my pickle in any way, as I'm actually considering it. How does it rank vs FRMS (which also looks interesting to me)? Wanted to go a bit more abstract as I'm fine on "traditional" synths now

I have both Samplewiz 2 and FRMS.
If it's your first foray into granular synths then go with Samplewiz 2
but if you want to dive into the deep end get FRMS.

What can you in do in one that you can’t do in the other? FRMS doesn’t seem that tricky to me at least from the YouTube videos (unlike Tardigan lol ) Do both work in iOS GarageBand as auv3 (Spacecraft doesn’t according to App Store)? I might grab whichever one goes on sale first lol

I actually don't use Garageband so I couldn't tell you about that
but I've used both in dRambo, Cubasis 3 and AUM.

FRMS is deeper.
You can load up one sample in SampleWiz 2 and you can load up four samples in FRMS.

ghost_forests

Huge fan of Motion FX and Motion EQ, Phase Mutant too

Fear2Stop

@Gravitas said:

@Fear2Stop said:

@Gravitas said:

@Fear2Stop said:

@setAI said:
samplewiz2 is the only one that I've kept and still use. it's the ultimate ASR type sampler just very fast and very deep at the same time-

That's the only one that tickles my pickle in any way, as I'm actually considering it. How does it rank vs FRMS (which also looks interesting to me)? Wanted to go a bit more abstract as I'm fine on "traditional" synths now

I have both Samplewiz 2 and FRMS.
If it's your first foray into granular synths then go with Samplewiz 2
but if you want to dive into the deep end get FRMS.

What can you in do in one that you can’t do in the other? FRMS doesn’t seem that tricky to me at least from the YouTube videos (unlike Tardigan lol ) Do both work in iOS GarageBand as auv3 (Spacecraft doesn’t according to App Store)? I might grab whichever one goes on sale first lol

I actually don't use Garageband so I couldn't tell you about that
but I've used both in dRambo, Cubasis 3 and AUM.

FRMS is deeper.
You can load up one sample in SampleWiz 2 and you can load up four samples in FRMS.

Looking at a few videos from Jade Starr and Soundroom and I’m actually leaning towards SampleWiz. This might be the rare case where the BLEASS layout/GUI works better … I think it’ll fit better as an AU in GarageBand size-wise . It looks really freaking cool 😎 Just signed up for alerts in AppSlice for this

Gravitas

@Fear2Stop said:

@Gravitas said:

@Fear2Stop said:

@Gravitas said:

@Fear2Stop said:

@setAI said:
samplewiz2 is the only one that I've kept and still use. it's the ultimate ASR type sampler just very fast and very deep at the same time-

That's the only one that tickles my pickle in any way, as I'm actually considering it. How does it rank vs FRMS (which also looks interesting to me)? Wanted to go a bit more abstract as I'm fine on "traditional" synths now

I have both Samplewiz 2 and FRMS.
If it's your first foray into granular synths then go with Samplewiz 2
but if you want to dive into the deep end get FRMS.

What can you in do in one that you can’t do in the other? FRMS doesn’t seem that tricky to me at least from the YouTube videos (unlike Tardigan lol ) Do both work in iOS GarageBand as auv3 (Spacecraft doesn’t according to App Store)? I might grab whichever one goes on sale first lol

I actually don't use Garageband so I couldn't tell you about that
but I've used both in dRambo, Cubasis 3 and AUM.

FRMS is deeper.
You can load up one sample in SampleWiz 2 and you can load up four samples in FRMS.

Looking at a few videos from Jade Starr and Soundroom and I’m actually leaning towards SampleWiz. This might be the rare case where the BLEASS layout/GUI works better … I think it’ll fit better as an AU in GarageBand size-wise . It looks really freaking cool 😎 Just signed up for alerts in AppSlice for this

I love the both of them for different reasons.
The motion sequencer in SampleWiz 2 is a lot of fun and FRMS is perfect for layering samples.
What they both lack is timestretching across the keyboard range other than that?
Take your pick.

Jamie_Mallender

This playlist might help. Personally, I would say the Phaser from the FX and Alpha from the synths.

Fear2Stop

@Jamie_Mallender said:
This playlist might help. Personally, I would say the Phaser from the FX and Alpha from the synths.

That’s one of the videos that convinced me to get SampleWiz this coming weekend!😎

Fingolfinzz

I dig their stuff a lot, the effects sound good and are light on the cpu. My most fun I’ve had is with omega, it’s really easy to use and get great patches going

Jamie_Mallender

@Fingolfinzz said:
I dig their stuff a lot, the effects sound good and are light on the cpu. My most fun I’ve had is with omega, it’s really easy to use and get great patches going

Yeah I’m always amazed how intuitive their stuff is, considering how capable they always are. I think the UI really helps.

Slush

Before Monolit I never owned any Bleass app, its GUI just didn’t appeal to me. But Monolit changed my mind and it’s actually very good and easy to get into. Great automation options as well. It made me buy Megalit thanks to the free Monolit. And I am sure I will buy more in the future.

zvon

I love Samplewiz 2, it's an easy to use granular sampler. But of course I am partial to it as I created 57 free presets for it!

Fingolfinzz

@Jamie_Mallender said:

@Fingolfinzz said:
I dig their stuff a lot, the effects sound good and are light on the cpu. My most fun I’ve had is with omega, it’s really easy to use and get great patches going

Yeah I’m always amazed how intuitive their stuff is, considering how capable they always are. I think the UI really helps.

Omega is when the fm envelopes finally clicked for me on how they work and just really helped me understand fm synthesis in a much more meaningful way. I really like their interfaces for being almost educational as well as easy to use

Fear2Stop

I asked in the SampleWiz2 thread but since that one was older maybe it’s better to ask here

Buying this this weekend but had a few questions…If I’m using it as an AUV3 in GarageBand on my iPhone, can I use the GarageBand built in keyboard to record into SampleWiz 2? Like say I was using poison 202…would it get loaded into SW2 for me to tweak the holy hell out of? I don’t have an external controller so that’s why I’m asking .

Edit...got the answer to the question about importing files, but seriously need to know about being able to use the keyboard due to not having a MIDI controller

setAI

@Gravitas said:

@Fear2Stop said:

@setAI said:
samplewiz2 is the only one that I've kept and still use. it's the ultimate ASR type sampler just very fast and very deep at the same time-

That's the only one that tickles my pickle in any way, as I'm actually considering it. How does it rank vs FRMS (which also looks interesting to me)? Wanted to go a bit more abstract as I'm fine on "traditional" synths now

I have both Samplewiz 2 and FRMS.
If it's your first foray into granular synths then go with Samplewiz 2
but if you want to dive into the deep end get FRMS.

I would say that samplewiz 2 is like an ASR 10, but FRMS is more like a Kurzweil k2000- you can use it as a sampler, but it's more about the deep synthesis and sample manipulation