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Glitchscaper from Igor Vasiliev

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  • edited March 2023

    Diving into this even more and I absolutely love it. May end up being one of my favorites of the year, if not my favorite. Just a dream app for me. Can’t praise it enough.

  • I've had a really bad morning so to make myself feel better I'm of to the App Store to buy this...

  • @Zerozerozero said:
    Shame about the UI. Too small and dark for iPhone (at least for my eyes).

    Try to activate this in app settings

  • @ZankFrappa said:

    @Zerozerozero said:
    Shame about the UI. Too small and dark for iPhone (at least for my eyes).

    Try to activate this in app settings

    Ah, thanks for this. Might take a punt on it

  • The more ambient sounds are basically jungle interlude music before the drop. This and SpaceFields together is instant burial on his ambient tip

  • Can someone help me understand if what this app achieves can be achieved with Beatcutter?

  • @magnusovi said:
    Can someone help me understand if what this app achieves can be achieved with Beatcutter?

    There is no sequencer in BeatCutter

  • @cuscolima said:

    @magnusovi said:
    Can someone help me understand if what this app achieves can be achieved with Beatcutter?

    There is no sequencer in BeatCutter

    I see. Can using a sequencer like LK equate the two? I guess i want to understand if sonically this app is sufficiently different than what Beatcutter does to justify my purchase. Sorry but I’m a super noob.

  • @magnusovi said:

    @cuscolima said:

    @magnusovi said:
    Can someone help me understand if what this app achieves can be achieved with Beatcutter?

    There is no sequencer in BeatCutter

    I see. Can using a sequencer like LK equate the two? I guess i want to understand if sonically this app is sufficiently different than what Beatcutter does to justify my purchase. Sorry but I’m a super noob.

    Both apps can generate a very chaotic track but with Glitchscaper, you understand why...

  • @cuscolima said:

    @magnusovi said:
    Can someone help me understand if what this app achieves can be achieved with Beatcutter?

    There is no sequencer in BeatCutter

    Say what now!?

  • @Pxlhg said:

    @cuscolima said:

    @magnusovi said:
    Can someone help me understand if what this app achieves can be achieved with Beatcutter?

    There is no sequencer in BeatCutter

    Say what now!?

    Well...this is not a sequencer in the sens "I want to define when and where the system is triggering"

    No?

  • @cuscolima said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @cuscolima said:

    @magnusovi said:
    Can someone help me understand if what this app achieves can be achieved with Beatcutter?

    There is no sequencer in BeatCutter

    Say what now!?

    Well...this is not a sequencer in the sens "I want to define when and where the system is triggering"

    No?

    Correct - the sequencer in BeatCutter fires on every step; the effect produced is dependent on the sequencer’s relationship to the cells and what’s in them. You can’t tell BeatCutter to only trigger on specific beats the way you can with GlitchScaper. BeatCutter is also reliant on external sound inputs, either live or sampled, whereas GlitchScaper has sound generators.

  • edited March 2023

    @cuscolima said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @cuscolima said:

    @magnusovi said:
    Can someone help me understand if what this app achieves can be achieved with Beatcutter?

    There is no sequencer in BeatCutter

    Say what now!?

    Well...this is not a sequencer in the sens "I want to define when and where the system is triggering"

    No?

    Both apps have none traditional sequencer inclusions and the newer one is not very controllable either. I don't want to get into a hair splitting contest :D but the fact that you can't edit or even control a sequence does not take away the fact that it is: a sequence (a set of related events, movements, or items that follow each other in a particular order). BeatCutter have a very strange sequencer, yes, but it's still there so to say that it has none is just wrong (am I splitting hairs?).

  • Id have to buy Glitchscaper. Even if similar sounds but think Beatcutter is more glitch. Should have been called Glitchscaper and Glitchscaper-Beatcutter.

    Beatcutter is way too cryptic. Theres a grid in top right ( Which disappears ) just by sliding off 1 of 2 faders on seq page ( but unsure of fader ) Which also seems to make tmpl numbers change. Then dosent reactivate once deactivated.

    On another patch where this mode isnt saved. You have to find a way to make grid appear. Sometimes numbers will briefly appear in grid. Trying to find out mode. Its almost as if you have to somehow capture numbers in the grid in top right. Then somehow keep numbers captured.

  • @Pxlhg said:

    @cuscolima said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @cuscolima said:

    @magnusovi said:
    Can someone help me understand if what this app achieves can be achieved with Beatcutter?

    There is no sequencer in BeatCutter

    Say what now!?

    Well...this is not a sequencer in the sens "I want to define when and where the system is triggering"

    No?

    Both apps have none traditional sequencer inclusions and the newer one is not very controllable either. I don't want to get into a hair splitting contest :D but the fact that you can't edit or even control a sequence does not take away the fact that it is: a sequence (a set of related events, movements, or items that follow each other in a particular order). BeatCutter have a very strange sequencer, yes, but it's still there so to say that it has none is just wrong (am I splitting hairs?).

    Ok I have asked ChatGPT and you are right, a random sequence is a sequence... ;0)

    But I recommend to buy Glitchscaper should you want to influence the sequence

  • Thank you all for your help!

  • @Pxlhg said:

    @cuscolima said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @cuscolima said:

    @magnusovi said:
    Can someone help me understand if what this app achieves can be achieved with Beatcutter?

    There is no sequencer in BeatCutter

    Say what now!?

    Well...this is not a sequencer in the sens "I want to define when and where the system is triggering"

    No?

    Both apps have none traditional sequencer inclusions and the newer one is not very controllable either. I don't want to get into a hair splitting contest :D but the fact that you can't edit or even control a sequence does not take away the fact that it is: a sequence (a set of related events, movements, or items that follow each other in a particular order). BeatCutter have a very strange sequencer, yes, but it's still there so to say that it has none is just wrong (am I splitting hairs?).

    I would definitely disagree that the new one is not very controllable. It is possible to dial in pretty much exactly what you want. You want a 4 bar sequence with a quarter note on the 2nd step of every bar, then you can do it. The only problem is that this part of the manual is so confusingly written that it will be hard for many people to grok how to do this.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @cuscolima said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @cuscolima said:

    @magnusovi said:
    Can someone help me understand if what this app achieves can be achieved with Beatcutter?

    There is no sequencer in BeatCutter

    Say what now!?

    Well...this is not a sequencer in the sens "I want to define when and where the system is triggering"

    No?

    Both apps have none traditional sequencer inclusions and the newer one is not very controllable either. I don't want to get into a hair splitting contest :D but the fact that you can't edit or even control a sequence does not take away the fact that it is: a sequence (a set of related events, movements, or items that follow each other in a particular order). BeatCutter have a very strange sequencer, yes, but it's still there so to say that it has none is just wrong (am I splitting hairs?).

    I would definitely disagree that the new one is not very controllable. It is possible to dial in pretty much exactly what you want. You want a 4 bar sequence with a quarter note on the 2nd step of every bar, then you can do it. The only problem is that this part of the manual is so confusingly written that it will be hard for many people to grok how to do this.

    A wilfully obtuse Igor Vasiliev manual? Surely not?! 😜

  • @ghost_forests said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @cuscolima said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @cuscolima said:

    @magnusovi said:
    Can someone help me understand if what this app achieves can be achieved with Beatcutter?

    There is no sequencer in BeatCutter

    Say what now!?

    Well...this is not a sequencer in the sens "I want to define when and where the system is triggering"

    No?

    Both apps have none traditional sequencer inclusions and the newer one is not very controllable either. I don't want to get into a hair splitting contest :D but the fact that you can't edit or even control a sequence does not take away the fact that it is: a sequence (a set of related events, movements, or items that follow each other in a particular order). BeatCutter have a very strange sequencer, yes, but it's still there so to say that it has none is just wrong (am I splitting hairs?).

    I would definitely disagree that the new one is not very controllable. It is possible to dial in pretty much exactly what you want. You want a 4 bar sequence with a quarter note on the 2nd step of every bar, then you can do it. The only problem is that this part of the manual is so confusingly written that it will be hard for many people to grok how to do this.

    A wilfully obtuse Igor Vasiliev manual? Surely not?! 😜

    Not willfully! I guess it is just hard to write a clear manual on some of these things when English is not your first language.

  • edited March 2023

    @Gavinski said:

    @ghost_forests said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @cuscolima said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @cuscolima said:

    @magnusovi said:
    Can someone help me understand if what this app achieves can be achieved with Beatcutter?

    There is no sequencer in BeatCutter

    Say what now!?

    Well...this is not a sequencer in the sens "I want to define when and where the system is triggering"

    No?

    Both apps have none traditional sequencer inclusions and the newer one is not very controllable either. I don't want to get into a hair splitting contest :D but the fact that you can't edit or even control a sequence does not take away the fact that it is: a sequence (a set of related events, movements, or items that follow each other in a particular order). BeatCutter have a very strange sequencer, yes, but it's still there so to say that it has none is just wrong (am I splitting hairs?).

    I would definitely disagree that the new one is not very controllable. It is possible to dial in pretty much exactly what you want. You want a 4 bar sequence with a quarter note on the 2nd step of every bar, then you can do it. The only problem is that this part of the manual is so confusingly written that it will be hard for many people to grok how to do this.

    A wilfully obtuse Igor Vasiliev manual? Surely not?! 😜

    Not willfully! I guess it is just hard to write a clear manual on some of these things when English is not your first language.

    That is very true! The man is a mad genius so I guess we have to give him some slack somewhere…

  • @sigma79

    Beatcutter is way too cryptic. Theres a grid in top right ( Which disappears ) just by sliding off 1 of 2 faders on seq page ( but unsure of fader ) Which also seems to make tmpl numbers change. Then dosent reactivate once deactivated.

    On another patch where this mode isnt saved. You have to find a way to make grid appear. Sometimes numbers will briefly appear in grid. Trying to find out mode. Its almost as if you have to somehow capture numbers in the grid in top right. Then somehow keep numbers captured.

    Hi! Yes on the sequencer tab the ‘template’ and ‘number’ sliders set the frequency and number of random template changes - only with this active does the weird grid appear (seeing the grid is helping me see what has changed each cycle) - it is described in the manual - have I ever used it? Not till you mentioned it Sigma79 🙏 😛

  • Could anyone provide sound examples? Very few videos out there.
    Thanks 😊

  • Question about the a comparison of the output of Glitchscaper (GS) and Beatcutter (BC) rather than a comparison of their process.

    Does GS naturally excel at creating the same kind of granular chaos that most naturally came out of BC?

    My main interest is whether GS could offer some unique sonic/musical results, rather than whether it offers a unique process, if you get me, or whether despite different workflows, they end up producing similar results.

    Any thoughts from your experience so far?

  • @128BPM said:
    Could anyone provide sound examples? Very few videos out there.
    Thanks 😊

    +1 - some good videos about how it works, but I really want to hear how it sounds more than anything upfront, and what kind of sonic range it has.

  • @128BPM said:
    Could anyone provide sound examples? Very few videos out there.
    Thanks 😊

    i second this. i just generally want to know what this thing can do sound-wise. like it’s extremities from melody to rhythm…

    @Gavinski you have a great taste and talent in what you create! got anything in the works?

  • @drewhino said:

    @128BPM said:
    Could anyone provide sound examples? Very few videos out there.
    Thanks 😊

    i second this. i just generally want to know what this thing can do sound-wise. like it’s extremities from melody to rhythm…

    @Gavinski you have a great taste and talent in what you create! got anything in the works?

    Thnx! Yeah I am thinking that I will probably skip doing a spoken walkthrough on it and come up instead with some kind of musical (broadly defined 😂) demo!

  • @craftycurate said:
    Question about the a comparison of the output of Glitchscaper (GS) and Beatcutter (BC) rather than a comparison of their process.

    Does GS naturally excel at creating the same kind of granular chaos that most naturally came out of BC?

    My main interest is whether GS could offer some unique sonic/musical results, rather than whether it offers a unique process, if you get me, or whether despite different workflows, they end up producing similar results.

    Any thoughts from your experience so far?

    BeatCutter is a sampler, so sonic results strongly depend on what audio you put into it. Glitchscaper is mostly a synth, so sonic results strongly depend on the synth engine. (I know it can also be used as an effect but that doesn’t look like the main appeal to me.)

  • @128BPM said:
    Could anyone provide sound examples? Very few videos out there.
    Thanks 😊

    Here are the presets with a couple of mine in there. First impression is I find the presets have a lot of bit crushy and noise moments but on mine I go for smoother. Pretty easy to use so far in terms of getting the texture/tone I want, smoother stuff. But yah, its fun!

  • edited March 2023

    @sigma79 said:
    Id have to buy Glitchscaper. Even if similar sounds but think Beatcutter is more glitch. Should have been called Glitchscaper and Glitchscaper-Beatcutter.

    Beatcutter is way too cryptic. Theres a grid in top right ( Which disappears ) just by sliding off 1 of 2 faders on seq page ( but unsure of fader ) Which also seems to make tmpl numbers change. Then dosent reactivate once deactivated.

    On another patch where this mode isnt saved. You have to find a way to make grid appear. Sometimes numbers will briefly appear in grid. Trying to find out mode. Its almost as if you have to somehow capture numbers in the grid in top right. Then somehow keep numbers captured.

    lol

    @danimal said:

    @sigma79

    Beatcutter is way too cryptic. Theres a grid in top right ( Which disappears ) just by sliding off 1 of 2 faders on seq page ( but unsure of fader ) Which also seems to make tmpl numbers change. Then dosent reactivate once deactivated.

    On another patch where this mode isnt saved. You have to find a way to make grid appear. Sometimes numbers will briefly appear in grid. Trying to find out mode. Its almost as if you have to somehow capture numbers in the grid in top right. Then somehow keep numbers captured.

    Hi! Yes on the sequencer tab the ‘template’ and ‘number’ sliders set the frequency and number of random template changes - only with this active does the weird grid appear (seeing the grid is helping me see what has changed each cycle) - it is described in the manual - have I ever used it? Not till you mentioned it Sigma79 🙏 😛

    I can make grid appear but its too cryptic to trigger and make tmpl numbers automatically change ( like in vid )

    This patch is 30% more cpu though. 70 % cpu. So will be a struggle even sampling with drums as a background ( metronome )

    edit. Cpu isnt as bad now.

  • @AudioGus said:

    @128BPM said:
    Could anyone provide sound examples? Very few videos out there.
    Thanks 😊

    Here are the presets with a couple of mine in there. First impression is I find the presets have a lot of bit crushy and noise moments but on mine I go for smoother. Pretty easy to use so far in terms of getting the texture/tone I want, smoother stuff. But yah, its fun!

    Useful thanks!

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