Glitchscaper from Igor Vasiliev

ElektrikDiva

Hi Guys

I've not read all the comments here so apologies first if already addressed and asked. I have already have BeatCutter so is it also worthwhile to also invest in this new app? They look kind of similar UI wise, but maybe they are not. Maybe its a totally new app. Any thoughts? Cheers, ED

hacked_to_pieces

@ElektrikDiva said:
Hi Guys

I've not read all the comments here so apologies first if already addressed and asked. I have already have BeatCutter so is it also worthwhile to also invest in this new app? They look kind of similar UI wise, but maybe they are not. Maybe its a totally new app. Any thoughts? Cheers, ED

GlitchScraper is a synth with a Euclidean sequencer so basically it more rhythmic by design. Both BeatCutter and GS can use host audio as a sound source otherwise Beatcutter is sample based. I don't think you could get BeatCutter sounding like GlitchScaper.

ElektrikDiva

Thank you HTP! That was an excellent and very helpful reply. I will def get it now thanks to your great explantion of each APP. Have a great night. Cheers, ED

sigma79

Beatcutter set right can provide a 1000 samples automatically.

Not sure Glitchscaper the same but would use Glitchscaper as app intended plus sample.

My question is.

Is recording Beatcutter without audio interface. Worse quality than recording with audio interface?

FastGhost

I piped Glitchscaper the instrument into Glitchscaper the FX and I think the world might end.

[Deleted User]

@FastGhost said:
I piped Glitchscaper the instrument into Glitchscaper the FX and I think the world might end.

Ooh, haven’t tried that yet…right…here goes…

sigma79

Last noodle ( I think )

Glitchscaper vs Beatcutter.

Blipsford_Baubie

I’m liking this. It’s reminds me of SKIID, only I’m actually slowly figuring out how to use it, plus it has a sequencer and processor and FX.

HotStrange

@Blipsford_Baubie said:
I’m liking this. It’s reminds me of SKIID, only I’m actually slowly figuring out how to use it, plus it has a sequencer and processor and FX.

Skiiid has a sequencer and effects! I can see the comparison for sure though. 2 amazing apps.

Blipsford_Baubie

@HotStrange said:

@Blipsford_Baubie said:
I’m liking this. It’s reminds me of SKIID, only I’m actually slowly figuring out how to use it, plus it has a sequencer and processor and FX.

Skiiid has a sequencer and effects! I can see the comparison for sure though. 2 amazing apps.

Seriously? Wow. That was not apparent to me. I feel that my experience lends itself to working in the dark on an iPhone SE2.
Even though I cannot read the majority of the labels inside GS, trial and error allowed me to crack GS easier than SKIID.
I believe that if I watch Leo’s SFM walk-through on GS, that’ll fill in any remaining gaps for me. I tried the Dev’s vids but they’re too fast for me.
Leo’s speed is right up my alley. Helped me a lot with Drambo.

HotStrange

@Blipsford_Baubie said:

@HotStrange said:

@Blipsford_Baubie said:
I’m liking this. It’s reminds me of SKIID, only I’m actually slowly figuring out how to use it, plus it has a sequencer and processor and FX.

Skiiid has a sequencer and effects! I can see the comparison for sure though. 2 amazing apps.

Seriously? Wow. That was not apparent to me. I feel that my experience lends itself to working in the dark on an iPhone SE2.
Even though I cannot read the majority of the labels inside GS, trial and error allowed me to crack GS easier than SKIID.
I believe that if I watch Leo’s SFM walk-through on GS, that’ll fill in any remaining gaps for me. I tried the Dev’s vids but they’re too fast for me.
Leo’s speed is right up my alley. Helped me a lot with Drambo.

I need it does. Looking at the iPhone version, I can’t see it, so maybe it’s hidden or an ipad only feature? Can’t see why though.

The effects are pretty limited though. Distortion, but crusher, and a resonator I think.

suboptimal

This is a cool app. "Instant Autechre," sort of. The randomizers are up front but there are enough parameters to allow for fine-tuning so it doesn't feel too automatic. Nice fodder for samplers. I'm looking forward to spending some time with this running into Fluss.

ExAsperis99

@suboptimal said:
This is a cool app. "Instant Autechre," sort of. The randomizers are up front but there are enough parameters to allow for fine-tuning so it doesn't feel too automatic. Nice fodder for samplers. I'm looking forward to spending some time with this running into Fluss.

"Instant Autechre" is a very generous term. God bless you all for signing up for the AP courses, but I've heard nothing from this app that doesn't sound like a cat in a blender.

suboptimal

Haha yeah, that was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. "Instant Autechre" always makes my eyes roll.

I started getting better results than cats in blenders after dialing the trigger chances way back and turning down (or off) the reverb. To begin with, though, keep mashing the randomizer buttons until the cat is properly purreed.

Blipsford_Baubie

@ExAsperis99 said:

@suboptimal said:
This is a cool app. "Instant Autechre," sort of. The randomizers are up front but there are enough parameters to allow for fine-tuning so it doesn't feel too automatic. Nice fodder for samplers. I'm looking forward to spending some time with this running into Fluss.

"Instant Autechre" is a very generous term. God bless you all for signing up for the AP courses, but I've heard nothing from this app that doesn't sound like a cat in a blender.

😂😂

I discovered the same as @suboptimal. Once I discovered how to increase the note length, much better. Apologies, I will be using the wrong lexicon most the time since I cannot see what I’m doing. But I did manage to find a way to increase the contrast in the app settings. I found that to be helpful in standalone at least.

Also, for using as a processor, the wet/dry knob helps to not sound like Autre and Tech.

ervin

@ExAsperis99 said:

@suboptimal said:
This is a cool app. "Instant Autechre," sort of. The randomizers are up front but there are enough parameters to allow for fine-tuning so it doesn't feel too automatic. Nice fodder for samplers. I'm looking forward to spending some time with this running into Fluss.

"Instant Autechre" is a very generous term. God bless you all for signing up for the AP courses, but I've heard nothing from this app that doesn't sound like a cat in a blender.

☝️

Gavinski

I don't agree. Some of the presets are very funky, actually. I do think the factory presets are generally far too heavy on the reverb though. I personally prefer my glitch sounds on the drier side. A future update will have a kind of master control for reverb, hopefully with a lock button.

My main criticism would be the amount of menu diving involved. That's not an enjoyable workflow, as far as I'm concerned, especially when every generator section is the same colour. It means you have to focus more than I find pleasant on the text while menu diving. And there's an awful lot of tapping. I mean, seriously! If you like tapping you're gonna be in tap heaven here. That is why I suggested to Igor that a more enjoyable layout might be to have a separate page for each generator, and it seems he is indeed considering adding that in a future update. This would massively reduce the number of taps needed to tweak things. Even then, there will still be a hell of a lot of tapping required. I just checked, and even just for the first pane of the app (input / output) and the first generator, there are well over 100 taps needed to work through all the available options. That means that to set up all 6 generators to your taste you are potentially looking at hundreds of taps. And that's not even taking into account knob adjustment. Of course, you can focus on using the randomizer more for faster results, but if you do want to tweak everything by hand it is pretty time consuming.

gkillmaster

@Gavinski said:
I don't agree. Some of the presets are very funky, actually. I do think the factory presets are generally far too heavy on the reverb though. I personally prefer my glitch sounds on the drier side. A future update will have a kind of master control for reverb, hopefully with a lock button.

My main criticism would be the amount of menu diving involved. That's not an enjoyable workflow, as far as I'm concerned, especially when every generator section is the same colour. It means you have to focus more than I find pleasant on the text while menu diving. And there's an awful lot of tapping. I mean, seriously! If you like tapping you're gonna be in tap heaven here. That is why I suggested to Igor that a more enjoyable layout might be to have a separate page for each generator, and it seems he is indeed considering adding that in a future update. This would massively reduce the number of taps needed to tweak things. Even then, there will still be a hell of a lot of tapping required. I just checked, and even just for the first pane of the app (input / output) and the first generator, there are well over 100 taps needed to work through all the available options. That means that to set up all 6 generators to your taste you are potentially looking at hundreds of taps. And that's not even taking into account knob adjustment. Of course, you can focus on using the randomizer more for faster results, but if you do want to tweak everything by hand it is pretty time consuming.

Couldn't agree more!

ghost_forests

Apologies if this has been posted already, here’s a tutorial I found

Blipsford_Baubie

@Gavinski said:
I don't agree. Some of the presets are very funky, actually. I do think the factory presets are generally far too heavy on the reverb though. I personally prefer my glitch sounds on the drier side. A future update will have a kind of master control for reverb, hopefully with a lock button.

There’s already a master control for the reverb. On the output, the third knob down is reverb type and amount, and all the sends remain relative.

My main criticism would be the amount of menu diving involved. That's not an enjoyable workflow, as far as I'm concerned, especially when every generator section is the same colour. It means you have to focus more than I find pleasant on the text while menu diving. And there's an awful lot of tapping. I mean, seriously! If you like tapping you're gonna be in tap heaven here. That is why I suggested to Igor that a more enjoyable layout might be to have a separate page for each generator, and it seems he is indeed considering adding that in a future update. This would massively reduce the number of taps needed to tweak things. Even then, there will still be a hell of a lot of tapping required. I just checked, and even just for the first pane of the app (input / output) and the first generator, there are well over 100 taps needed to work through all the available options. That means that to set up all 6 generators to your taste you are potentially looking at hundreds of taps. And that's not even taking into account knob adjustment. Of course, you can focus on using the randomizer more for faster results, but if you do want to tweak everything by hand it is pretty time consuming.

I can understand your case for this, and you seem to be in the majority, but when using multiple generators, I like to have the sequencers or sound page simultaneously available for tweaking, especially the sequencers. I mean, call and response, you know. IMO, that immediacy makes for a more fluid pattern build. But I can respect and see how GS will want to be used for more than just a drum machine, loop recombination type. Seems people like it for live tweaking.

Gavinski

@Blipsford_Baubie said:

@Gavinski said:
I don't agree. Some of the presets are very funky, actually. I do think the factory presets are generally far too heavy on the reverb though. I personally prefer my glitch sounds on the drier side. A future update will have a kind of master control for reverb, hopefully with a lock button.

There’s already a master control for the reverb. On the output, the third knob down is reverb type and amount, and all the sends remain relative.

My main criticism would be the amount of menu diving involved. That's not an enjoyable workflow, as far as I'm concerned, especially when every generator section is the same colour. It means you have to focus more than I find pleasant on the text while menu diving. And there's an awful lot of tapping. I mean, seriously! If you like tapping you're gonna be in tap heaven here. That is why I suggested to Igor that a more enjoyable layout might be to have a separate page for each generator, and it seems he is indeed considering adding that in a future update. This would massively reduce the number of taps needed to tweak things. Even then, there will still be a hell of a lot of tapping required. I just checked, and even just for the first pane of the app (input / output) and the first generator, there are well over 100 taps needed to work through all the available options. That means that to set up all 6 generators to your taste you are potentially looking at hundreds of taps. And that's not even taking into account knob adjustment. Of course, you can focus on using the randomizer more for faster results, but if you do want to tweak everything by hand it is pretty time consuming.

I can understand your case for this, and you seem to be in the majority, but when using multiple generators, I like to have the sequencers or sound page simultaneously available for tweaking, especially the sequencers. I mean, call and response, you know. IMO, that immediacy makes for a more fluid pattern build. But I can respect and see how GS will want to be used for more than just a drum machine, loop recombination type. Seems people like it for live tweaking.

Yes there is currently that master knob but the implementation Igor is looking at will allow you to also knock off the echo on all generators with one press. I think he's also going to leave the option to have the UI the way it currently is. He has a lot planned for the next update, see the first post here!:

https://motion-soundscape.blogspot.com/?m=1

Blipsford_Baubie

@Gavinski helpfully pointed out:
Yes there is currently that master knob but the implementation Igor is looking at will allow you to also knock off the echo on all generators with one press. I think he's also going to leave the option to have the UI the way it currently is. He has a lot planned for the next update, see the first post here!:
https://motion-soundscape.blogspot.com/?=1

Thanks Gav!

AudioGus

Really loving this thing. Just wish you could expand a single generator to show all five slots worth of parameters at once. After a while all of the cycling through parameters gets a little tiring.

Blipsford_Baubie

@AudioGus said:
Really loving this thing. Just wish you could expand a single generator to show all five slots worth of parameters at once. After a while all of the cycling through parameters gets a little tiring.

That’s on the road map for, next release? I think.

https://motion-soundscape.blogspot.com/?=1

AudioGus

@Blipsford_Baubie said:

@AudioGus said:
Really loving this thing. Just wish you could expand a single generator to show all five slots worth of parameters at once. After a while all of the cycling through parameters gets a little tiring.

That’s on the road map for, next release? I think.

https://motion-soundscape.blogspot.com/?=1

Oh sweet! Sounds like it may not be the next one, but the one after, thanks for the heads up, hope it happens!

RJB

GlitchScaper just got a fantastic update. Undo is now available when it comes to making sequences and tones, as well as being able to go back to a saved position. But the biggest thing is a multiview that now gives you all of an oscillators’ settings on a single page. No more clicking around multiple settings tabs to adjust a single oscillator, something a lot of people were asking for. This glitch making machine just got amazing!

Gavinski

@RJB said:
GlitchScaper just got a fantastic update. Undo is now available when it comes to making sequences and tones, as well as being able to go back to a saved position. But the biggest thing is a multiview that now gives you all of an oscillators’ settings on a single page. No more clicking around multiple settings tabs to adjust a single oscillator, something a lot of people were asking for. This glitch making machine just got amazing!

Yes! I asked for this single page view way back, as I would imagine others did too, and am very glad Glitchscaper got it!

HotStrange

@Gavinski said:

@RJB said:
GlitchScaper just got a fantastic update. Undo is now available when it comes to making sequences and tones, as well as being able to go back to a saved position. But the biggest thing is a multiview that now gives you all of an oscillators’ settings on a single page. No more clicking around multiple settings tabs to adjust a single oscillator, something a lot of people were asking for. This glitch making machine just got amazing!

Yes! I asked for this single page view way back, as I would imagine others did too, and am very glad Glitchscaper got it!

Thought of you when I first saw the update. Haven’t tried it yet but I’m excited to see how it looks.

Also for everyone else: looks like at some point NoInput is getting multi-out 🤩 it got a randomizer on the last update too but I haven’t used it yet.

dreamcartel

When I won Glitchscaper I was so impressed with the depth of programming. It’s almost like a virtual Volca drum really. I think most people know I’m a big Volca Drum convert and fan and I know there are two other very great synth drum machines (I think blip box and FAC) but I don’t know if they have the genius Euclidean setup, the amazing options for rhythmic changes, and then ofc the fact that it can be both a drum machine proper and an effect for other drums. It’s a really overlooked but important piece of iOS/iPadOS/macOS software and I hope people start to enjoy it more, especially fans of synth drums

HotStrange

@dreamcartel said:
When I won Glitchscaper I was so impressed with the depth of programming. It’s almost like a virtual Volca drum really. I think most people know I’m a big Volca Drum convert and fan and I know there are two other very great synth drum machines (I think blip box and FAC) but I don’t know if they have the genius Euclidean setup, the amazing options for rhythmic changes, and then ofc the fact that it can be both a drum machine proper and an effect for other drums. It’s a really overlooked but important piece of iOS/iPadOS/macOS software and I hope people start to enjoy it more, especially fans of synth drums

Yes I love Glitchscaper. All of Igor’s apps are fantastic. Beatcutter is the only one I haven’t completely gelled with because I forget how to use it every time I break it out. The UI is just a bit much. Everything else is A1 though.