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Mantis - BBD Echo by AudioThing (Released)
Intro Price $9.99 ends April 9th, 2023. Full price: $19.99
Mantis is a plugin that emulates a rare BBD
(bucket-brigade device) delay/echo unit of the
70s, faithfully recreating its warm and analog
sound. Available as AUv3 and Standalone.
As the original unit, Mantis features an echo
section with four taps and four swell selectors. It also features the rotafaze section, a modulation that can mimic the wow/flutter of a tape echo or turn the unit into a unique chorus-delay.
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Oh yeah!
Aw, I was hoping for the ‘Things’ price range. 😆
I guess I better get it before it goes full price.
seems dope! looks like one of the more useful and versatile vintage delays to have come out recently
Oddly, considering my enthusiasm for AudioThing bringing stuff to iOS, I’m finding it hard to get worked up by this, and may give it a pass. Probably due to having multiple delays already, including Wires and Reels. I’d be interested in a demo, in case it does something really unique and interesting.
Tried the trial version on desktop and found it grating. I won’t be buying this one.
It is good but yeah, there have been a lot of vintage delays released over this past year, by Ddmf but particularly by Audiothing and GSI, and just a lot of apps in general from these last 2 devs. GSI slowed down their releases from the manic pace of their first entry to the platform but then recently went and made the very odd move of releasing 2 organ apps on the same day. That's bizarre to me.
Bit of a slower release schedule probably wouldn't do Audiothing any harm. What's the rush! Not sure how people can be expected to buy all this stuff even if they are fans of the dev - or to make vids on them all for that matter lol
I love Mantis to bits. These tools are sound design dream machines!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Bazk_wvg2-4
Thanks for this, and to Leo. Convinces me that it’s one I can pass on!
Though it’s a horrible video it gives some sound impression of a BBD emulation that seems at least solid. These things sound like crap by nature...
But preset switching is plain nonsense with such a device. You have to listen to sound changes while tweaking a parameter.
Otherwise you‘ll simply miss interesting and/or sweet spots. After all it’s a simple device.
(you may search Carlsbro Mantis for the original‘s sound)
tbh i’m surprisingly having more fun and using this lots more than any of their recent apps or any other delays. you’re exactly right, the tweaking is where this thing thrives. it’s almost as if presets don’t really make sense for it (and i love preset surfing). strange that this thing isn’t getting more love. the layout lends itself so well to an ipad touch screen and the darkness is far more legit sounding than other vintage delays around.
I think it's not getting a lot of love because there have been so many vintage delays released recently, gsi released 3 or 4 a while ago and Audiothing just released Reels, what, 2 weeks ago, after having released Wires just a few months ago. Mantis does sound really great but developers need to pay attention to the overall market and time releases carefully, not just in terms of their own releases but also in terms of what other devs have released. Just my 2 cents. 🤷♂️
I also dig the layout. The long sliders remind me of Ratshack Reverb, which I love, and seem far better than knobs to ride controlled feedback.
There seems to have been a ton of lo-fi type apps out recently - I love Wires, but I’ve overused it a bit and noticed too much degradation on my recent tracks, so time for a break. I seem to remember a quote somewhere about the invention of the wah-wah pedal - every record had one on it, so it quickly became a cliche, and was deemed naff just as quickly. The lo-fi trend feels a bit like that.
As for echo fx - choice is a wonderful thing, but when you’ve got stalwarts like FabFilter and Eventide already in the market it’s going to be a struggle to attract sales.
I remember my Wem Copycat years ago, and it’s grainy, wonky old sound. My mate bought a weird Russian echo box for 40 quid that made the weirdest unpredictable squeaks and squeals (Audiothing would love that one) - loads of fun, but everything ends up coated with noise and wobbles. The revelation was when Boss bought out an affordable digital delay pedal - clarity! At last!
Anyway, I’m rambling.
I absolutely love what Audiothing are doing, but agree with what you’re saying about the market. None of their recent releases, though impressive, have attracted my money, but their more unique stuff (e.g. Gong Amp) definitely will. Hopefully the less than enthusiastic responses to some of their less unique apps, won’t put them off releasing the good stuff.
I love Ratshack, instant gratification. Totally agree with the sliders vs knobs comment.
On the contrary, I think it will push them to release something genuinely exciting and different next. At least, that's what I would do as a response to this kind of diminishing conmunity enthusiasm.
Hope so. When they started I thought ‘bugger, I’m going to have to buy all of these…’, so looking forward to giving them some money.
As it is I’m hanging out for Glitchscaper. Now, that is different!
I definitely hope so... I pinning my hopes on Noises next
I don’t suppose they will, but it’d be great if they adapted Noises to iPad with some nods to the touch interface, maybe faders instead of knobs, that seems like a nice touch on this one for sure…
Highly unlikely they will make interface changes to cater to touch screen, I'd say. Think, from discussion I have had with the dev that they want complete concordance between the various platforms.
Yeah I’m sure, much easier to keep it the same, but I do keep hankering after things that are much more suited to the devices rather than pure ports…
I’m really looking forward to Gong Amp and Things: Motor.
I have a feeling that Noises might be a difficult port due to the AUv3 memory limits. Or am I way off beam in thinking it uses large libraries based on samples? I’m thinking they might end up having Decent Sampler type problems. I’d love to be wrong, though.
Same man! Hence I'm really digging through some of the older apps. Still happy we're getting more desktop ports but we really need stuff designed for touch screen.
I hope not! You only load 8 samples at a time, so might not be an issue?
I guess it boils down to how big the samples are, and how much RAM it needs for processing. I’m crossing my fingers it’s doable.
Yeah, definitely up for the weirder stuff.
This is a great characteristic delay, have been messing around with it this morning. It’s not just a preset surfer, as mentioned above, the magic is in the tweaking. I wish the noise could start more subtle, just a couple of % is quickly getting too much. Overal, this is a more darkish unit, great for lofi dub and so on.
Agreed on these points. The Noise is far too loud, but this delay produces some beautiful echoes. Very weird that the usual control over noise envelope attack and release is missing in this one. If you'd like to see that feature, maybe email the dev 😉.
Remember that, in the meantime, by long pressing you get fine control over the knobs - useful for dialing in a tiny amount of noise.
The noise can be set more subtle: touch the knob, wait a second and then turn instead of touching and turning directly. This also works for Wires and I guess the others too. I believe I read about in the manual.
I couldn’t resist Mantis because I’m quite a fan of my Lyra-8 and its delay. I also have Ratshack and like that one too. Audiothing Mantis however does have a different character (that I like) so I bought it.
The sliders are nice, the Mantis is something to play with and it’s possible to touch/control four or maybe even five sliders at once (11 inch screen). As I said earlier: the Audiothing Plug-ins would benefit from a decent modulation section instead of the current lfo. Think Arturia and Fabfilter.