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Which iOS daw will be still here in 3 years ?
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It’s all about which iOS daw you think will be still updated and get big upgrade in the laps of 3 years as the daw completion will be more difficult with Logic Pro iOS (I don’t list Logic Pro on the List and Ty not to forget some but I miss some certainly. I haven’t included Gadget , Zen Beat , AUM and Drambo to focus on traditional Daws.
- BM367 votes
- Cubasis47.76%
- Auria Pro1.49%
- Évolution audio mobile10.45%
- Fl studio4.48%
- Ntrack1.49%
- Multi track5.97%
- Other Daw28.36%
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Logic
GarageBand will still be around and get regular updates.
Sorry I tried to add it to the poll but I don’t know how to add it so you can use other daw . First time I do such a poll
No problem , that’s why I picked other and commented bm3; Cubasis is just as good and more powerful with CPU use but it doesn’t offer all the options bm3 does. If it gets an update it will probably be #1 for a lot of people at $27 reg price
Hope for BM3 a future seems nobody have more info from Intua. Other can be also a iOS daw that we don’t know yet….
Cubasis and Zenbeats will still be around. In the "sort of a DAW" category, Loopy Pro, Korg Gadget and AUM will still be around (and sure, yeah, GarageBand). I personally wouldn't vouch for any other entrants. I'm sure there will still be a lot of "DAWs" in the App Store, including some of the ones listed above, but most of those will probably have very few active users.
Disclaimer: I'm not saying anything bad about your current DAW of choice. I'm just saying that the market conditions are about to get a lot more challenging for DAWs on iOS/iPadOS.
Another interesting question though: will we have real Ableton Live? Full Cubase? Bitwig? Who will follow Logic on to the platform?
Call me old fashioned but I still use MultiTrack DAW and AUM.
Yes lot more challenging for DAWs on iOS/iPadOS .
Just a host for your gear and a record button is basically all you need.
Multitrack DAW quietly gets on with the job of keeping pace with ios updates.
Wil the iPad be around in 3 years !
I think that it is a mistake not to think of AUM as a DAW just because it doesn’t have a timeline. Ultimately it is a digital audio host, and you can add piano rolls like Atom2 to it if you need a timeline. So my vote is for AUM, and Loopy Pro too hopefully, though Loopy Pro doesn’t seem to have bitten into the pool of AUM users remotely as much as I thought it might when it was released.
+1 @Gavinski
Yeah, AUM and Loopy Pro are as far as I can see, the only ‘DAW’s we have on iOS that desktop users would also wish they had on desktop. Does anyone on desktop want Cubasis? Pretty much nope, I think. Do they want a NanoStudio 2 without audio tracks? I doubt it very much. Etc etc!
Loopy needs audio tracks ideally though, no? Was that not on the roadmap but has been removed? And AUM needs a proper automation system and hopefully also a ‘mixer sliders only’ view, as many people have been - rightly in my opinion - requesting for a while. But even without these, both Loopy Pro and AUM have a lot of unique features that should keep them relevant for years to come
Will I be around in 3 years
Dear @Gavinski perhaps my conception of a daw is too traditional you open my mind and need to learn more on AUM that I got.
For Cubasis I can’t see anyone willing to use it as a desktop as you got Cubase on the Desktop. I don’t use Cubase but the strong point for Cubase users is that Cubasis have really the same GUI than Cubase on desktop, far more powerful than Cubasis indeed but they are not lost like a iOS GB user coming to Logic.
I put "other" to say Logic Pro. But had there not been an "other" category, I would've chosen Cubasis as well. Or maybe Cubasis will eventually be replaced by Cubase now that Logic Pro is arriving onto the platform.
First I notice than I forget in this poll Nano Studio and that Ntrack compared to Multi Track have 0 % ?
The poll assumes only one DAW can survive so a lot of data is ignored. I own 3 of the choices and use a few more DAW not on the list. A DAW (for me) is an app the can host AUv3’s.
We’ve had polls before where someone rolled up all the data from comments. It’s really just guessing because the developer/maintainers will decide based on revenue. Most apps have no model for recurrent revenue like Loopy Pro so
They will follow many apps into neglect.
What Logic Pro will do is make a gold rush for new plug-ins from desktop plug-in vendors. I have long wished that Auria Pro was
Mined by a developer for plug-in assets like the Lyra Sampler because it imports SFZ’es as well as SF2’s. But wanting a product doesn’t make the case for profitability. And with a few exceptions that’s why developers code, test, ship and maintain apps.
Other DAW: Endlesss is going to add a song mode in the future and that will be almost all I need although it still won’t really qualify as a traditional DAW.
ZenBeats is my other top choice and I still don’t understand the basis for the exclusion of it. How is it not a DAW? It surely is.
Your comment is important, I add “other daws” so people can open it to other daws. My main problems was with the poll to configure it and I made mistakes on this configuration as you can vote only for 1 Daw I was thinking that you got multiple choices.
Is one of you mastering better can do a new pool including more Daws and multi choice I will be more than happy.
My idea is that such a poll évoluâtes in the time as we get more information from Daw devs.
So ok zen beat is a Daw.
Drambo a Daw ?
Loopy pro a Daw ? I don’t use it but it is what I call a looper but I can make mistakes
Answer: Yes.
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I'm quite sure that Zenbeats will be around as long as Roland will be around making software.
Even though I don't use it on a daily basis it's gotten a LOT of updates and fixes over the years and the difference from the StageLight days compared to where it is now is staggering.
I think Steinberg will keep Cubasis afloat with the prime focus shifting to getting users over to their desktop offerings.
It's also one of the few DAWs this is also available for Android in addition to Audio Evolution Mobile and FL Studio Mobile.
FL Studio Mobile will also likely stick around as an on-the-go sketchpad for the the desktop version.
BM3 will likely also stick around as it's quite well written and doesn't suffer so much from iOS updates, there's been practically zero issues caused by iOS updates. But I honestly don't see it evolving any further as is, eventual iOS bug-fixes if any to keep it in the store but that's about it.
Korg will keep Gadget working across OS updates and who knows as Gadget 2 will be 10 years old next year so we might get a surprise (at least I hope so).
UVI will likely keep BeatHawk 2 working in order to sell more sound packs from their content store.
We still have some lesser known but very capable DAWs that might make the jump over to iPadOS with Tracktion Waveform being one of them.
Time will tell where things go...
Ios17 infos about it as very focus on VR , no words if I can remember about music ( it was before the press release so it was perhaps a Apple strategy to keep all the eyes on VR Apple glasses ) .
GB I am not sure it will be here in 3 years , means more to have a very lite Logic to bring with a unified interface between Logic Lite free and Logic Pro on subs ? But it is just guessing as a logical guy , I can be totally wrong as I was stating that Logic Pro will not be port ios and speaking about a free GB big update.
MultiTrackStudio has been on desktop for over 20 years and the iPad version (containing most of the desktop features) since 2014. Both platforms still get regular updates and I can’t see it dying yet.
And what about N-Track ?
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My concept of a DAW is a multitrack environment designed for composition and arrangement of full songs which allows you to work with both MIDI and audio at a fundamental level (i.e. a limited audio sampler unit isn’t enough). If it only handles MIDI then it’s a sequencer, only audio would be a multi-track recorder. For me, ZenBeats fits the definition of a DAW. I don’t think Loopy Pro does at this stage. Drambo is unique and more like a construction kit where you could potentially build a usable DAW but that is not its default state. I’m wondering if your impression of ZB is that it is vendor-locked to Roland but that is not the case.
I had the impression indeed that Zenbeat was locked to Roland as Gadget is a Korg locked in some way.
If I follow your definition of a Daw about Audio I was right not to consider NS2 as a real Daw as you haven’t audio track in NS2 ? I appreciate the dev of NS2 and synth in it but it as too limited without audio so I went to Cubasis.