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I don't have EG pulse or Digistix, but I don't think either of them support round-robin, and I'm doubtful EG pulse has velocity layers (but happy to be corrected if I'm wrong).
Digistix and has round-robin (5 layers).
OK I might have to check it out, I'm not that keen on the 4pockets UIs but it might be worth it in this case.
(I'd still buy a Soft Drummer or Funk Drummer module app in a hbeartbeat though!)
..................> Anyway... it´s so easy and fast to export audio (Song or number of bars , stems... ) in seconds, import to any daw, so I really don't see a big problem not been AUv3.
Not when playing them as a live instrument! And needing to change setups on a per song basis. You seem to have the idea that all users are only recording fixed pieces of music
I've managed to get Mozaic working quite well in organizing things so it's not a big problem any more, just awkward
But it is what it is. You've stated again in your post there is no way an AUv3 is possible so that's it I guess. May have to look at an alternative like beatbuddy (yech!!!) again.
Have you tried using the live pads and sing features under midi control to switch setups etc per song? They are pretty powerful features. For controlling the drummers.
you can turn koala into a round-robin/velocity sens multi-sample machine with eucalyptus
https://patchstorage.com/eucalyptus/
Yeah the song option is not very good. If you could save a song as simply the style beat and kit that would be good, but the song thing only works with a set number of bars per section.
Not good for live work when it needs to be dynamic. And then a user has to set up all the sections required for a song as well. IE you have to enter numbers of bars for intro, vs, ch , and the repeat for as many verses and choruses and bridges in a song. I could more easily just do all that on the PC and use wav files of complete songs. It's not what I use the drum apps for.
Not sure what advantage there would be to using the pads either, tbh. sorry
If you haven’t ever looked at the live pads, they are very handy for playing live and switching patterns and settings. The live pads are essentially presets that store pattern and all the settings like jam/intensity/any toggles. There are handy midi commands for switching between them.
Those were my thoughts exactly. Each live pad is a pattern setup with all the pattern, kit, fill, jam, etc options that can be triggered with a single touch or midi message. They're not simply fixed patterns like an audio clip. I'm not sure why they aren't a potential solution, but maybe I just don't fully understand the requirement.
I think what he’s saying is we need auv3:
Tbh I thought it was for $18
I bought it rock drum machine and was surprised it was inter app audio only (but I didn’t know what the difference was at the time anyway ). Great drum app , I wish it was auv3. I’d check this out probably to see how it is even if I don’t do hip hop
What happened to the dev that was making the acoustic drums the day Logic was announced? I didn’t remember hearing anything about it after
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Thanks guys - never really looked at them tbh...had a play early on (when I first got Soft Drummer) and thought nah not very useful and have not looked at them since. Wish this guy had manuals!
I miss a proper manual much more than auv3 compatibility tbh. And, unlike auv3, that is probably not beyond the realm of possibility. But there seems to be a clear business decision here that manuals are not created for these apps (except for that short thing for one of them, forget which)
I think the business decision is that writing a manual would take time without increasing revenue and most people find them a chore to write …with the revenue being pretty marginal.
And in recent times, very few people even look at them. People that do, care about them a lot…but it is shocking how few people use them when they are available. [A bummer for me, because I used to write manuals.]
I blame YouTube.
Only dinosaurs like me read manuals anymore. We're a dying breed.
Same... This is my really major gripe with the lumbeats apps. They need manuals.I really can't stand apps without manuals that clearly need them.
I recently bought a new board/card game, and the instruction booklet only had one page with a QR code, and one sentence that said “reading manuals is dumb, go watch this YouTube video to learn how to play the game”.
Screw that guy lol. But yeah, is there any video on youtube that covers consicely and thoroughly everything, and I do mean everything, no stone unturned, you need to know to fully understand all the lumbeat drummers?
So am I weird for actually enjoying reading manuals? 🤔 I always find it part of the fun of getting something new.
Not at all .
I didn’t know you could change velocity until I accidentally tinkered with the buttons
K maybe there was a video but it reminded me of a hardware company that sold me a few grand rack and when I went through the boxes for the manual there was none: I called them and asked where is it? “We don’t ever print manuals we don’t believe our customers read them. You can read the 200 page manual online, and it’s a 8.5x11” standard LTR like wuuuuuuuuuhhhhh
So manuals are important : look at Hilda’s manual? I know I’m a #BramFan but I’m just pointing out the hottest synth had such a great manual does anyone agree
Most new synths just come with a 4 page quick reference manual and you gotta look online for the rest. I’m a sucker for a good manual. The MS20 and Grandmother both came with really awesome manuals.
Agreed about Hilda too but I haven’t read the whole thing yet.
I don’t actually enjoy reading them, generally (though the Bram Bos Manuals are always a pleasure), that said, their UIs are generally already reasonably simple and intuitive. But there are few iOS YouTubers who cover every nook and cranny of an app, and generally I want to know every nook and cranny, so for complex apps I usually bite the bullet and just read the manual, rather than faffing around on YT for things that may leave me unsatisfied and wishing I had just spent that time reading the manual instead. The lack of any kind of decent online video tutorial for Stria was really the thing that started my whole YouTube channel. Particularly with the flood of apps coming out these days, it will be harder and harder for any YouTuber to cover even a decent number of them in detail, so manuals are more important than ever. Gone are the days where you had maybe one significant release a week. Even that could be demanding enough if the app was deep and you really wanted to cover it very thoroughly, with all the info and with good audio examples. Recently, with several major releases happening every week…wow, just impossible! Especially given the fact that almost no youtuber except maybe Doug can survive off their YT income alone.
This is very true. With more eyes on iOS than ever I’m sure releases are gonna come about more and more frequently too. If it’s 1-1 ports from desktop the desktop manual should be fine more most things besides gesture controls but I still would like to see it become standard. Like you said, there’s no way for anyone to churn out videos about every release. And a lot of the smaller ones don’t get videos at all except short ones.
Yes... That's a very unfortunate side effect of how things like the YT algo work. It's just a microcosm of capitalism.
Entrenched power structures fare well and if you're a small fish - whether a dev or a youtuber - it is extremely hard to compete against the bigger fish. Despite how many people enjoy my vids, there's every chance that if I hadn't gone down the free code giveaway route, the channel would be floundering in obscurity still. In many topic areas on YT, there is the possibility of a sudden viral explosion that can take you out of no man's land very quickly, but in our niche that doesn't really happen.