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sumFX by OSC Audio (Released)

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  • oddSTARoddSTAR

    @Gavinski said:

    @oddSTAR said:

    @Poppadocrock said:
    @OSC_Audio

    Number 2 in the US App Store Top 200 Paid Music Apps.
    Number 14 in US App Store Top 200 Paid Apps.

    That's pretty impressive to be occupying two slots in the US store simultaneously! Not sure that's ever been done before... :wink:
    (Should one have been the UK?)

    Hahaha, no, look again - one is the music chart, the other is the general overall chart. Congrats @OSC_Audio!

    D'oh! Reading is hard. :lol: I beg forgiveness, @Poppadocrock :blush:

  • GavinskiGavinski

    I can’t drag the downloaded and unzipped presets into the SumFX folder in ‘On My iPad’. It just doesn’t work. The Sum FX folder installed in On My iPad also won’t open. Anyone else run into these probs and found a solution?

  • SamuSamu

    @Gavinski said:
    I can’t drag the downloaded and unzipped presets into the SumFX folder in ‘On My iPad’. It just doesn’t work. The Sum FX folder installed in On My iPad also won’t open. Anyone else run into these probs and found a solution?

    Try copying the folder and pasting it at the target...
    ...I tend to do most Files.app operations in one window using copy/paste/move.

    I don't have sumFX but do the above with many other apps.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Samu said:

    @Gavinski said:
    I can’t drag the downloaded and unzipped presets into the SumFX folder in ‘On My iPad’. It just doesn’t work. The Sum FX folder installed in On My iPad also won’t open. Anyone else run into these probs and found a solution?

    Try copying the folder and pasting it at the target...
    ...I tend to do most Files.app operations in one window using copy/paste/move.

    I don't have sumFX but do the above with many other apps.

    Thanks Samu, seems a restart fixed it. However, this is what my experience is so far:

    You know the way the files system on iOS works, it is so crap, it doesn't remember the last location that was opened. So it seems any time I want to load a preset I have to click on, for example, 'load chain preset', navigate either manually or using search to the sumfx folder, find the preset folder, the chain preset folder, then go into the subfolders, then choose an individual preset. And then if I want to try a different preset I have to repeat the above? Of course, if I knew individual preset names I could just search for them directly.

    Tell me I’m missing something here, please, because this would seem to be an extremely frustrating way to browse through presets, I feel I really must be missing something.

  • SamuSamu

    @Gavinski said:

    You know the way the files system on iOS works, it is so crap, it doesn't remember the last location that was opened. So it seems any time I want to load a preset I have to click on, for example, 'load chain preset', navigate either manually or using search to the sumfx folder, find the preset folder, the chain preset folder, then go into the subfolders, then choose an individual preset. And then if I want to try a different preset I have to repeat the above? Of course, if I knew individual preset names I could just search for them directly.

    Tell me I’m missing something here, please, because this would seem to be an extremely frustrating way to browse through presets, I feel I really must be missing something.

    That is again something the developers can most likely 'fix' by keeping track of the last URL used for file access...
    To me this sumFX feels more like 'screw the presets' and do it from scratch on a need to use basis :sunglasses:

  • ALBALB

    @Gavinski said:

    @Samu said:

    @Gavinski said:
    I can’t drag the downloaded and unzipped presets into the SumFX folder in ‘On My iPad’. It just doesn’t work. The Sum FX folder installed in On My iPad also won’t open. Anyone else run into these probs and found a solution?

    Try copying the folder and pasting it at the target...
    ...I tend to do most Files.app operations in one window using copy/paste/move.

    I don't have sumFX but do the above with many other apps.

    Thanks Samu, seems a restart fixed it. However, this is what my experience is so far:

    You know the way the files system on iOS works, it is so crap, it doesn't remember the last location that was opened. So it seems any time I want to load a preset I have to click on, for example, 'load chain preset', navigate either manually or using search to the sumfx folder, find the preset folder, the chain preset folder, then go into the subfolders, then choose an individual preset. And then if I want to try a different preset I have to repeat the above? Of course, if I knew individual preset names I could just search for them directly.

    Tell me I’m missing something here, please, because this would seem to be an extremely frustrating way to browse through presets, I feel I really must be missing something.

    I don’t think you’re missing anything. I’ve been saving my presets in AUM for time being - not a solution for those who might go cross platform, but I don’t have the patience to go through iOS file hell. I haven’t even looked at the factory presets - too much of a drag.

  • ALBALB
    edited July 2023

    Dbl pst

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @ALB said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Samu said:

    @Gavinski said:
    I can’t drag the downloaded and unzipped presets into the SumFX folder in ‘On My iPad’. It just doesn’t work. The Sum FX folder installed in On My iPad also won’t open. Anyone else run into these probs and found a solution?

    Try copying the folder and pasting it at the target...
    ...I tend to do most Files.app operations in one window using copy/paste/move.

    I don't have sumFX but do the above with many other apps.

    Thanks Samu, seems a restart fixed it. However, this is what my experience is so far:

    You know the way the files system on iOS works, it is so crap, it doesn't remember the last location that was opened. So it seems any time I want to load a preset I have to click on, for example, 'load chain preset', navigate either manually or using search to the sumfx folder, find the preset folder, the chain preset folder, then go into the subfolders, then choose an individual preset. And then if I want to try a different preset I have to repeat the above? Of course, if I knew individual preset names I could just search for them directly.

    Tell me I’m missing something here, please, because this would seem to be an extremely frustrating way to browse through presets, I feel I really must be missing something.

    I don’t think you’re missing anything. I’ve been saving my presets in AUM for time being - not a solution for those who might go cross platform, but I don’t have the patience to go through iOS file hell. I haven’t even looked at the factory presets - too much of a drag.

    Yeah, this really needs to be optimized, I’m very surprised no one here complained about this yet, it’s a really bad preset system implementation, but I’m sure the dev will figure something better out asap, like I said, very nice guy and very responsive.

  • ALBALB

    @Gavinski said:

    @ALB said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Samu said:

    @Gavinski said:
    I can’t drag the downloaded and unzipped presets into the SumFX folder in ‘On My iPad’. It just doesn’t work. The Sum FX folder installed in On My iPad also won’t open. Anyone else run into these probs and found a solution?

    Try copying the folder and pasting it at the target...
    ...I tend to do most Files.app operations in one window using copy/paste/move.

    I don't have sumFX but do the above with many other apps.

    Thanks Samu, seems a restart fixed it. However, this is what my experience is so far:

    You know the way the files system on iOS works, it is so crap, it doesn't remember the last location that was opened. So it seems any time I want to load a preset I have to click on, for example, 'load chain preset', navigate either manually or using search to the sumfx folder, find the preset folder, the chain preset folder, then go into the subfolders, then choose an individual preset. And then if I want to try a different preset I have to repeat the above? Of course, if I knew individual preset names I could just search for them directly.

    Tell me I’m missing something here, please, because this would seem to be an extremely frustrating way to browse through presets, I feel I really must be missing something.

    I don’t think you’re missing anything. I’ve been saving my presets in AUM for time being - not a solution for those who might go cross platform, but I don’t have the patience to go through iOS file hell. I haven’t even looked at the factory presets - too much of a drag.

    Yeah, this really needs to be optimized, I’m very surprised no one here complained about this yet, it’s a really bad preset system implementation, but I’m sure the dev will figure something better out asap, like I said, very nice guy and very responsive.

    Hey, I complained before (ok, yesterday). My take is that this developer may not be very familiar with other iOS music apps and the expectations of the community in general. Not a criticism, just a hunch.

  • rvrrvr

    Not affecting the sound at all except the levels (whatever I tried in 5 min doesnt work, in=out). Drambo. Going for refund, sorry.

  • drewinnitdrewinnit

    @rvr said:
    Not affecting the sound at all except the levels (whatever I tried in 5 min doesnt work, in=out). Drambo. Going for refund, sorry.

    same here, in aum and drambo...i must be doing something wrong

  • PxlhgPxlhg

    @rvr said:
    Not affecting the sound at all except the levels (whatever I tried in 5 min doesnt work, in=out). Drambo. Going for refund, sorry.

    Try disabling 'MATCH INPUT' (under the last slot to the right)

  • OSC_AudioOSC_Audio
    edited July 2023

    @thesoundtestroom great video! Thanks for checking it out.

    @Gavinski thanks! Also, just a heads up, I'm looking into your issue with the resonance.

    For anyone having Preset issues. We're working on a more ideal system for iOS. In the meantime, I've pulled together a walk-through on how to get your Factory Presets, as well as save, load, and set a Favorite folder for quick recall.

    @Samu the iOS File Chooser seems much more picky than Mac/PC, I'm working on it now with the rest of the system. Thanks for mentioning the URL. That is part of it.

    @Robin2 said:

    @OSC_Audio said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Are the AU parameters exposed for automation?

    Yes, controls offer automation.

    Great, thanks for confirming @OSC_Audio.

    No problem.

    @ALB said:
    Yeah - I was rude, so I edited my initial post, but thought it dishonest to just outright delete the comment. Thanks for listening. The app sounds great and looks cool - the interface is easy to read and navigate. Choosing something from the drop downs takes many tries for me - others may have this problem. A drop down to replace the file chooser works for me, perhaps with a list of factory and user presets separated. All the best!

    Much appreciated. We'll make sure to get something really solid for everyone here. Constructive comments are the best, since they point me in the direction to go, so thank you again.

    @Poppadocrock said:
    Yea I caved. Everything is exposed and it’s a lot of possibilities. So far I like it.

    @OSC_Audio getting some signal & audible spikes when I stop/pause host, which is AUM.
    Also had trouble assigning the second lfo to the right delay pan. I had the first lfo on the left delay pan, but when I tried to use lfo 2 to modulate the right pan it didn’t do anything, I switched to color and it worked, however then I couldn’t switch it off of color to any other delay parameters. I kept selecting something else on the channel 6 delay to modulate but it just stayed on color, and would not switch. I’m on iPad 6, iOS I updated today for security risks update, the absolute newest one. Maybe it’s user error or there’s a logical explanation but figured I’d mention it. Thanks.

    So far so cool though.

    Yeah, this was an implementation to help with stability on Logic Pro, but I think I've found a better option.

    **Edit: To clarify, I meant the processing stopping with the playhead. The LFO issue you have here I'll need to look into when I get a second. Thanks for bringing this up.

    @HotStrange @Poppadocrock I see you two mentioned this as well. I'm working on it. I'll see if I can add a setting for spill over when changing presets. That might come a bit later with Program Change assignments to presets. Is that something everyone here uses a lot?

    @rvr said:
    Not affecting the sound at all except the levels (whatever I tried in 5 min doesnt work, in=out). Drambo. Going for refund, sorry.

    That's upsetting to hear! I'll check it out asap. If you don't mind sending an message to the support email below with details of your device, that would be very helpful in making sure we check it out properly and offer you some suggestions.

    @drewinnit said:

    @rvr said:
    Not affecting the sound at all except the levels (whatever I tried in 5 min doesnt work, in=out). Drambo. Going for refund, sorry.

    same here, in aum and drambo...i must be doing something wrong

    Yeah, that's odd. Make sure the slot is engaged. There is a power button under each of the slots.

    In case anyone needs it there is a user manual here. Feel free to ask for any suggested additions. I'm happy to accommodate.

    Support - [email protected]

    **Edit: Missed these posts:

    @Robin2 said:
    @OSC_Audio How long is the intro price available for?

    Intro pricing is set to go for 1 month from release, like BFM.

    @oddSTAR said:
    That would be very exciting! Performing FX live is really fun and XY pads are so much more accessible than dials on a touch screen. With a multiFX app, having several pads on the same screen would be amazing. Allowing for subtlety/fine grain adjustments to find sweet spots is important, though. Endlesss has the best implementation I've used for live FX via XY pads for what it's worth.

    Didn't see this posted here yet but:
    https://oscaudio.gumroad.com/

    Your responsiveness and openness to ideas is enough for me to invest in both the iOS and desktop versions. :wink:

    While I do love a good slider/knob-style control when it's easy to grab, I agree that X/Y pads are awesome. They really let you do some unique stuff quick, and with one hand when needed. On a touch screen it's even more useful.

    Thanks for your support! I was honestly blown away by the amount of feedback here and the fact we hit #2 in paid music apps was really awesome to see. We couldn't do it without a great community behind us and we'll make sure the feedback makes it's way into the release notes in the form of solid changes.

  • drewinnitdrewinnit
    edited July 2023

    i’m on iPad Air 3, ios 13.7...have excluded most human error, the fx just don’t sound. tried presets, too

  • MisplacedDevelopmentMisplacedDevelopment

    @drewinnit said:
    i’m on iPad Air 3, ios 13.7...have excluded most human error, the fx just don’t sound. tried presets, too

    Have you tried starting the host transport? I hit this and pressing play in AUM fixed it.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @OSC_Audio i do use that quite a bit. It can be a cool ending to a song to just pause the track and let the tails of the effects slowly fade out. It can be really useful in ambient productions as well.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Am I missing a setting to have the effects trail out after the source is paused? If I pause the sequencer right now it just cuts the sound completely. Would be great to be able to have the reverb and delay tails trail off instead.

    Enjoying the app overall so far, though. The reverb and filters sound great. Haven’t tried the EQ and compressors yet.

    Yea that’s what I experienced.

    Thanks for confirming I wasn’t going crazy and missing the obvious lol

  • drewinnitdrewinnit
    edited July 2023

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:

    @drewinnit said:
    i’m on iPad Air 3, ios 13.7...have excluded most human error, the fx just don’t sound. tried presets, too

    Have you tried starting the host transport? I hit this and pressing play in AUM fixed it.

    thank you! finally got it working

    @OSC_Audio is this by design? not used to regular fx needing transport running to work....

  • HeavyWaterHeavyWater

    These presets download would help if posted on the OSC gumroad webpage if possible — that’s the first result searching for sumfx, not the netlify.app site under an effects drop-down menu. that was my experience

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @HeavyWater said:
    These presets download would help if posted on the OSC gumroad webpage if possible — that’s the first result searching for sumfx, not the netlify.app site under an effects drop-down menu. that was my experience

    There should really be some kind of pop-up in the app itself on first downloading it. But more to the point it should just work from the get go and have a decent preset system built in. It's really not the kind of thing 99% of people who just downloaded a new app want to bother having to do. There's not even a mention of where to find the preset downloads and the info needed to install them on the appstore. But even there, many users wouldn't even read the description thoroughly.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Gavinski said:

    @HeavyWater said:
    These presets download would help if posted on the OSC gumroad webpage if possible — that’s the first result searching for sumfx, not the netlify.app site under an effects drop-down menu. that was my experience

    There should really be some kind of pop-up in the app itself on first downloading it. But more to the point it should just work from the get go and have a decent preset system built in. It's really not the kind of thing 99% of people who just downloaded a new app want to bother having to do. There's not even a mention of where to find the preset downloads and the info needed to install them on the appstore. But even there, many users wouldn't even read the description thoroughly.

    Yeah I haven’t even tried to download the presets yet. I usually like designing my own but it is nice to have with big multi effects like this. I really like the app overall but I do get bummed seeing so many apps without a decent preset system. And the effects not trailing off but stopping completely when you pause transport or the sequencer is weird behavior. Makes it not usable in some cases for me

  • CamblerCambler

    Loving the sound of this, great work team OSC! Have to echo the comments in regards to the fiddly interface and difficulty in selecting drop downs etc. Had to use my apple pen in the end otherwise it was too frustrating, Looking forward to playing more and future updates.

  • GUBGUB

    Is this demanding on the CPU, or does it tread lightly? What about when all the effects are engaged, though that might be a rare case in the real world...

  • GUBGUB

    I bought it. I like it. I like it quite a bit, and only GAS accounting for the purchase decision, I don't regret it. I was reminded of another great swiss-army fx spork, namely Modley. Digression aside, this is a fine and fun soundchewer which I have much yet to learn about, and the Dev seems like a good egg too. ++++>

  • GUBGUB
    edited July 2023

    @GUB said:

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  • BirdpieBirdpie

    bought it for ios, will spend some time with it!
    is the win/mac version a extra buy or is that included?
    if so, how can i get the win version?

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Separate buy. On their gumroad I think? Just Google them > @Birdpie said:

    bought it for ios, will spend some time with it!
    is the win/mac version a extra buy or is that included?
    if so, how can i get the win version?

  • CamblerCambler
    edited July 2023

    @Birdpie said:
    bought it for ios, will spend some time with it!
    is the win/mac version a extra buy or is that included?
    if so, how can i get the win version?

    It seemed to show up in the Mac Store which is actually where I bought it. Haven't checked it in Logic on Mac yet but seeing as its in the store I would guess it will. I have an M1 laptop. If this does currently work I imagine the dev will plug that hole :)

  • BirdpieBirdpie

    @Gavinski said:
    Separate buy. On their gumroad I think? Just Google them > @Birdpie said:

    bought it for ios, will spend some time with it!
    is the win/mac version a extra buy or is that included?
    if so, how can i get the win version?

    i see, thanks!

  • OSC_AudioOSC_Audio

    Here's a quick sneak peek at the preset system on iPhone which will be coming to all platforms.

    Forgive the simulator use, and lack of editing, I have tested on physical devices, and it's much quicker outside of a debug build, but this was just easiest to get a good quick preview that shows what's coming soon and everyone here was so interested I wanted to share! 🤘

    @Cambler @Birdpie Yes, Mac/PC is separate. If you do choose to purchase the iOS version, I'm not sure I'll close the loophole of iOS AUv3 use on macOS. I think I like the iOS community too much to do that lol!

    If you really did not want to purchase both versions, you could certainly use this method, but just know I'm not planning on optimizing AUv3 or the iOS app for macOS. I mean, unless I see some real interest, it just seems like something not too many people would use. Really I'd suggest the Mac/PC version if you're moving your projects between platforms.

    @GUB Glad to hear you like it I greatly appreciate all the support! We'll be adding more as we go, so for sure stay tuned. CPU should be minimal, but I've found more ways to get it even lower which will be super handy on older iOS devices (Not that we've seen complaints, I'm just excited about getting that refactoring done).

    @Cambler Thank you!! Very happy you're enjoying the sound. I've been dying to get back to the DSP side and I should be there soon now that I've got the iOS Preset update pretty much sorted. I should be able to also squeeze in some more iOS optimizations on GUI before it goes live. I'm hoping it can get out to everyone soon though! My TestFlight testers should all be getting the first build once Apple approves.

    @HeavyWater Thanks for mentioning it. I saw your comment and immediately added everything to the Gumroad page for any future users looking for the resources.

    @Gavinski Stay tuned on TestFlight ;) I think you'll really like this next update. The Factory Presets are even baked in by user request.

    @HotStrange @drewinnit @MisplacedDevelopment The behavior with the playhead should now be sorted with the v1.0.3 update. This should be out soon. We're just making sure it's stable after the big back-end changes. Stay tuned!

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