TB Reverb - torn whether to keep it or return it.

Gavinski

Just want to mention, for smaller reverb sounds I absolutely love Klevgrand Rum. Klevgrand Kleverb is also really great btw. Don't see it mentioned much.

HotStrange

@Johne1 said:

@Bruques said:

@Johne1 said:

@Bruques said:

@Johne1 said:
I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

John

I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

Hmmm… side chain ducking, that’s a biggie! I completely missed that feature. Thanks for pointing that out. I had a nice reverb on Mac that had side chain ducking. I think it was a Brainworx reverb from Plugin Alliance.

Ah I didn't know Brainworx had that functionality, good to know.
I also forgot to add the Decay tab in TB Reverb, allows for frequency specific decay controlling, low shelf, high shelf, and one peak band. As well as the actual EQ.

Thanks for the additional info. I guess I was rushing to judgement, as @HotStrange said. I really appreciate all the feedback I’m getting. Everyone here is so willing to share. Maybe that’s because we all have one thing in common. G.A.S.

Yup TB Reverb is one of those that’s made for tweaking. Kind of a create your own reverb in a way. Much like the FF stuff.

Poppadocrock

@ecou said:
Do the dev still have to pay 100% of the refund price when they only make 85% of the sale price? Apple takes 15% for small dev if I remember correctly.

Not sure if this was answered (edit - I see @Gavinski mentioned it) but several people, Including myself had a conversation about refunds, somewhere in this forum. I think it was within the last year, and I’m pretty sure the conclusion was they do not. I heard that 15% thing somewhere too and I brought it up. Someone, I forget who, but someone that would know, like a developer, said they do not. It might be in this years app sales thread but earlier in the year, maybe end of the 2022 thread, if you really want to find it. Maybe a separate thread with the word refund. Regardless, the outcome was the developers do not get hit with a fee for refunds. However, every country has a different criteria for accepting refunds, and I personally reserve refunds for only the most valid of reasons.

@Gavinski said:

@ecou said:
Do the dev still have to pay 100% of the refund price when they only make 85% of the sale price? Apple takes 15% for small dev if I remember correctly.

Apparently not, no

ecou

@Poppadocrock said:

@ecou said:
Do the dev still have to pay 100% of the refund price when they only make 85% of the sale price? Apple takes 15% for small dev if I remember correctly.

Not sure if this was answered (edit - I see @Gavinski mentioned it) but several people, Including myself had a conversation about refunds, somewhere in this forum. I think it was within the last year, and I’m pretty sure the conclusion was they do not. I heard that 15% thing somewhere too and I brought it up. Someone, I forget who, but someone that would know, like a developer, said they do not. It might be in this years app sales thread but earlier in the year, maybe end of the 2022 thread, if you really want to find it. Maybe a separate thread with the word refund. Regardless, the outcome was the developers do not get hit with a fee for refunds. However, every country has a different criteria for accepting refunds, and I personally reverse refunds for only the most valid of reasons.

@Gavinski said:

@ecou said:
Do the dev still have to pay 100% of the refund price when they only make 85% of the sale price? Apple takes 15% for small dev if I remember correctly.

Apparently not, no

Thank you for the extra information 👍

Poppadocrock

Lol.

ion677

I did a brief, non comprehensive demo of a bunch of iOS reverbs. TB reverb is toward the end, and ended up being my favorite all around reverb.

HotStrange

@ion677 said:
I did a brief, non comprehensive demo of a bunch of iOS reverbs. TB reverb is toward the end, and ended up being my favorite all around reverb.

I honestly think it’s my favorite as well. I didn’t even own it until a couple weeks or so ago and now I’m using it on everything and it’s the first one I reach for when I’m wanting/needing reverb. I still use others depending on the use case but TBs is good on everything.

Slush

I wonder how Envelope by DDMF compares. It’s hardly ever mentioned.

HotStrange

@Slush said:
I wonder how Envelope by DDMF compares. It’s hardly ever mentioned.

I’ve been interested in that one too so would love some info.

Gavinski

@Slush said:
I wonder how Envelope by DDMF compares. It’s hardly ever mentioned.

Hate the preset browser in that

Gavinski

Got Adverb 2 btw, wow, really beautiful on vocals!

HotStrange

@Gavinski said:
Got Adverb 2 btw, wow, really beautiful on vocals!

Adverb 2 is one of my go tos on iOS. Love it. I use it a lot.

Gavinski

@HotStrange said:

@Gavinski said:
Got Adverb 2 btw, wow, really beautiful on vocals!

Adverb 2 is one of my go tos on iOS. Love it. I use it a lot.

Weirdly, I tried MixBox Sunset Sounds on the same vocal and the plate reverb from Lunar Lander on the same vocal sample, and they were just horrifically distorted. Never experienced anything like this with reverb before. No idea what was going on there, twiddling with settings didn’t seem to help, my input signal was not too hot, very weird. Adverb 2 sounded sublime though and super easy to tweak.

HotStrange

@Gavinski said:

@HotStrange said:

@Gavinski said:
Got Adverb 2 btw, wow, really beautiful on vocals!

Adverb 2 is one of my go tos on iOS. Love it. I use it a lot.

Weirdly, I tried MixBox Sunset Sounds on the same vocal and the plate reverb from Lunar Lander on the same vocal sample, and they were just horrifically distorted. Never experienced anything like this with reverb before. No idea what was going on there, twiddling with settings didn’t seem to help, my input signal was not too hot, very weird. Adverb 2 sounded sublime though and super easy to tweak.

I don’t have the Mixbox one (still waiting on a sale before I buy any of that) but it’s weird Lunar Lander is giving you distortion. Maybe since it’s been abandoned some kind of issues have come up? Wouldn’t explain why Mixbox is doing it too though.

Adverb really is just a great reverb.

espiegel123

@HotStrange said:

@Gavinski said:

@HotStrange said:

@Gavinski said:
Got Adverb 2 btw, wow, really beautiful on vocals!

Adverb 2 is one of my go tos on iOS. Love it. I use it a lot.

Weirdly, I tried MixBox Sunset Sounds on the same vocal and the plate reverb from Lunar Lander on the same vocal sample, and they were just horrifically distorted. Never experienced anything like this with reverb before. No idea what was going on there, twiddling with settings didn’t seem to help, my input signal was not too hot, very weird. Adverb 2 sounded sublime though and super easy to tweak.

I don’t have the Mixbox one (still waiting on a sale before I buy any of that) but it’s weird Lunar Lander is giving you distortion. Maybe since it’s been abandoned some kind of issues have come up? Wouldn’t explain why Mixbox is doing it too though.

Adverb really is just a great reverb.

I don’t experience distortion with the Lunar Lander reverb. It sounds like something isn’t set up right of some particular combination of settings.

ecou

The Audiokit free reverb sound very good and is light on the processor.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/audiokit-reverb/id1601314353

HotStrange

@espiegel123 said:

@HotStrange said:

@Gavinski said:

@HotStrange said:

@Gavinski said:
Got Adverb 2 btw, wow, really beautiful on vocals!

Adverb 2 is one of my go tos on iOS. Love it. I use it a lot.

Weirdly, I tried MixBox Sunset Sounds on the same vocal and the plate reverb from Lunar Lander on the same vocal sample, and they were just horrifically distorted. Never experienced anything like this with reverb before. No idea what was going on there, twiddling with settings didn’t seem to help, my input signal was not too hot, very weird. Adverb 2 sounded sublime though and super easy to tweak.

I don’t have the Mixbox one (still waiting on a sale before I buy any of that) but it’s weird Lunar Lander is giving you distortion. Maybe since it’s been abandoned some kind of issues have come up? Wouldn’t explain why Mixbox is doing it too though.

Adverb really is just a great reverb.

I don’t experience distortion with the Lunar Lander reverb. It sounds like something isn’t set up right of some particular combination of settings.

I haven’t either personally. Sad that it got pulled from the App Store though. I still have it but I know times ticking on it’s lifespan which sucks.

realdawei

@gregsmith said:

@Luxthor said:

@Johne1 said:

@Gavinski said:
It's also personal taste... I downloaded Adverb 2 based on Dendy's strong recommendation but found I don't actually like it that much. Maybe I just don't like plate reverbs very much as I find every time I try them I nearly always feel a bit 'meh' about them. I'll experiment a bit more with AdVerb but might ask for a refund.

TV Reverb is powerful, flexible, well priced. Worth watching some videos on for sure, or reading the manual. AdVerb is very simple so it is easy enough to decide quickly on it, TB Reverb is not in that category

I think Branis may have pointed me to why I didn’t hear much reverb coming from this plugin. I’m going to take your advice, Gav, and go watch some videos on it. Btw, I finally watched one of your videos today. You got me very interested in Rozeta Suite. Thanks for the advice!

It’s not just personal taste, there are different audio tasks for different reverbs. You need many reverbs in your arsenal, because you will never know which one will be best for those situations.

Or just do what I do: slap blackhole on and tweak the mix dial to taste 😂

Seriously though it seems to work for everything

HotStrange

@ecou said:
The Audiokit free reverb sound very good and is light on the processor.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/audiokit-reverb/id1601314353

Definitely. Also not free but cheap is the Nembrini Rack Reverb.

Johne1

I’m guessing that most of the guys on here are guitar players. I played guitar for decades and took up the piano a couple of years ago. Just wondering how many of you are using these tools with a digital piano (hardware version, not software) or their siblings (organs, clavichords, etc.) ?> @ecou said:

The Audiokit free reverb sound very good and is light on the processor.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/audiokit-reverb/id1601314353

I have that one, too. Along with some of their synthesizers. I like Matthew’s stuff. The manual (Synth One?) with the documentary on synths is really well written.

Johne1

@HotStrange said:

@ecou said:
The Audiokit free reverb sound very good and is light on the processor.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/audiokit-reverb/id1601314353

Definitely. Also not free but cheap is the Nembrini Rack Reverb.

I have that one, too.

HotStrange

@Johne1 said:

@HotStrange said:

@ecou said:
The Audiokit free reverb sound very good and is light on the processor.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/audiokit-reverb/id1601314353

Definitely. Also not free but cheap is the Nembrini Rack Reverb.

I have that one, too.

I’ve heard it’s great for subtle things but I’ve never tried it. It might be the only reverb I don’t have besides Envelope AU.

Johne1

@ecou said:

@Poppadocrock said:

@ecou said:
Do the dev still have to pay 100% of the refund price when they only make 85% of the sale price? Apple takes 15% for small dev if I remember correctly.

Not sure if this was answered (edit - I see @Gavinski mentioned it) but several people, Including myself had a conversation about refunds, somewhere in this forum. I think it was within the last year, and I’m pretty sure the conclusion was they do not. I heard that 15% thing somewhere too and I brought it up. Someone, I forget who, but someone that would know, like a developer, said they do not. It might be in this years app sales thread but earlier in the year, maybe end of the 2022 thread, if you really want to find it. Maybe a separate thread with the word refund. Regardless, the outcome was the developers do not get hit with a fee for refunds. However, every country has a different criteria for accepting refunds, and I personally reverse refunds for only the most valid of reasons.

@Gavinski said:

@ecou said:
Do the dev still have to pay 100% of the refund price when they only make 85% of the sale price? Apple takes 15% for small dev if I remember correctly.

Apparently not, no

Thank you for the extra information 👍

i can put an end to the refund question in this thread. You guys absolutely convinced me that I should keep it. I have other TB plugins, too. Plugins are like blind dates. Set your expectations too high… and you just might be in for a let down. LOL

Johne1

@gregsmith said:

@Luxthor said:

@Johne1 said:

@Gavinski said:
It's also personal taste... I downloaded Adverb 2 based on Dendy's strong recommendation but found I don't actually like it that much. Maybe I just don't like plate reverbs very much as I find every time I try them I nearly always feel a bit 'meh' about them. I'll experiment a bit more with AdVerb but might ask for a refund.

TV Reverb is powerful, flexible, well priced. Worth watching some videos on for sure, or reading the manual. AdVerb is very simple so it is easy enough to decide quickly on it, TB Reverb is not in that category

I think Branis may have pointed me to why I didn’t hear much reverb coming from this plugin. I’m going to take your advice, Gav, and go watch some videos on it. Btw, I finally watched one of your videos today. You got me very interested in Rozeta Suite. Thanks for the advice!

It’s not just personal taste, there are different audio tasks for different reverbs. You need many reverbs in your arsenal, because you will never know which one will be best for those situations.

Or just do what I do: slap blackhole on and tweak the mix dial to taste 😂

@Luxthor said:

@gregsmith said:

@Luxthor said:

@Johne1 said:

@Gavinski said:
It's also personal taste... I downloaded Adverb 2 based on Dendy's strong recommendation but found I don't actually like it that much. Maybe I just don't like plate reverbs very much as I find every time I try them I nearly always feel a bit 'meh' about them. I'll experiment a bit more with AdVerb but might ask for a refund.

TV Reverb is powerful, flexible, well priced. Worth watching some videos on for sure, or reading the manual. AdVerb is very simple so it is easy enough to decide quickly on it, TB Reverb is not in that category

I think Branis may have pointed me to why I didn’t hear much reverb coming from this plugin. I’m going to take your advice, Gav, and go watch some videos on it. Btw, I finally watched one of your videos today. You got me very interested in Rozeta Suite. Thanks for the advice!

It’s not just personal taste, there are different audio tasks for different reverbs. You need many reverbs in your arsenal, because you will never know which one will be best for those situations.

Or just do what I do: slap blackhole on and tweak the mix dial to taste 😂

Don’t tell him this yet, I just gave him the perfect excuse to have many reverbs! 😂

I actually do have a lot of reverbs, already. The iOS plugin world is awesome!

Johne1

@ion677 said:
I did a brief, non comprehensive demo of a bunch of iOS reverbs. TB reverb is toward the end, and ended up being my favorite all around reverb.

Thanks! That was really interesting and informative.

jwmmakerofmusic

@Bruques said:

@Johne1 said:
I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

John

I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

HotStrange

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@Bruques said:

@Johne1 said:
I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

John

I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

jwmmakerofmusic

@HotStrange said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@Bruques said:

@Johne1 said:
I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

John

I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do.

HotStrange

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@HotStrange said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@Bruques said:

@Johne1 said:
I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

John

I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do.

I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

jwmmakerofmusic

@HotStrange said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@HotStrange said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@Bruques said:

@Johne1 said:
I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

John

I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do.

I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

Damn my acursed dumb brain. I meant I'll use TB Reverb in my collab with Paulie, not Pro-R. 😅