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TB Reverb - torn whether to keep it or return it.

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  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Damn my acursed dumb brain. I meant I'll use TB Reverb in my collab with Paulie, not Pro-R. 😅

    You saying Pro-R confused me at first and then I thought “maybe TB Reverb has Pro-R in the title” then I thought maybe you were using both. My brain got equally scrambled 🤣

  • @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Damn my acursed dumb brain. I meant I'll use TB Reverb in my collab with Paulie, not Pro-R. 😅

    You saying Pro-R confused me at first and then I thought “maybe TB Reverb has Pro-R in the title” then I thought maybe you were using both. My brain got equally scrambled 🤣

    Only time I want my brain scrambled is when I'm high, lol.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Damn my acursed dumb brain. I meant I'll use TB Reverb in my collab with Paulie, not Pro-R. 😅

    You saying Pro-R confused me at first and then I thought “maybe TB Reverb has Pro-R in the title” then I thought maybe you were using both. My brain got equally scrambled 🤣

    Only time I want my brain scrambled is when I'm high, lol.

    Same here 😂 I don’t even do that but every few days or less. Yet somehow I’m stroll scrambled like an egg 😅

  • @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Damn my acursed dumb brain. I meant I'll use TB Reverb in my collab with Paulie, not Pro-R. 😅

    You saying Pro-R confused me at first and then I thought “maybe TB Reverb has Pro-R in the title” then I thought maybe you were using both. My brain got equally scrambled 🤣

    Only time I want my brain scrambled is when I'm high, lol.

    Same here 😂 I don’t even do that but every few days or less. Yet somehow I’m stroll scrambled like an egg 😅

    😂🤣🤣

  • I like tfx echo and BLEASS reverb the most, personally

  • edited June 2023

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  • edited June 2023

    @HotStrange said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Got Adverb 2 btw, wow, really beautiful on vocals!

    Adverb 2 is one of my go tos on iOS. Love it. I use it a lot.

    Weirdly, I tried MixBox Sunset Sounds on the same vocal and the plate reverb from Lunar Lander on the same vocal sample, and they were just horrifically distorted. Never experienced anything like this with reverb before. No idea what was going on there, twiddling with settings didn’t seem to help, my input signal was not too hot, very weird. Adverb 2 sounded sublime though and super easy to tweak.

    I don’t have the Mixbox one (still waiting on a sale before I buy any of that) but it’s weird Lunar Lander is giving you distortion. Maybe since it’s been abandoned some kind of issues have come up? Wouldn’t explain why Mixbox is doing it too though.

    Adverb really is just a great reverb.

    I don’t experience distortion with the Lunar Lander reverb. It sounds like something isn’t set up right of some particular combination of settings.

    I haven’t either personally. Sad that it got pulled from the App Store though. I still have it but I know times ticking on it’s lifespan which sucks.

    Also never experienced distortion with either Sunset Sounds or Lunar Lander before. Need to investigate more.

  • @Fear2Stop said:
    I like tfx echo and BLEASS reverb the most, personally

    The tfx apps are really great. I love the Bleass Reverb too though it can be a bit much without raining it in. I love a good reverb so they all have their place for me.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Got Adverb 2 btw, wow, really beautiful on vocals!

    Adverb 2 is one of my go tos on iOS. Love it. I use it a lot.

    Weirdly, I tried MixBox Sunset Sounds on the same vocal and the plate reverb from Lunar Lander on the same vocal sample, and they were just horrifically distorted. Never experienced anything like this with reverb before. No idea what was going on there, twiddling with settings didn’t seem to help, my input signal was not too hot, very weird. Adverb 2 sounded sublime though and super easy to tweak.

    I don’t have the Mixbox one (still waiting on a sale before I buy any of that) but it’s weird Lunar Lander is giving you distortion. Maybe since it’s been abandoned some kind of issues have come up? Wouldn’t explain why Mixbox is doing it too though.

    Adverb really is just a great reverb.

    I don’t experience distortion with the Lunar Lander reverb. It sounds like something isn’t set up right of some particular combination of settings.

    I haven’t either personally. Sad that it got pulled from the App Store though. I still have it but I know times ticking on it’s lifespan which sucks.

    Also never experienced distortion with either Sunset Sounds or Lunar Lander before. Need to investigate more.

    Hope you’re able to figure it out. I’d hate for this to be a potential disastrous bug in Lunar Lander.

  • edited June 2023

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Haven’t opened Pro-R in a long time, sort of abandoned it because I couldn’t quite understand it. Seems like you can’t choose the reverb algorithm?. I think it does it automatically based on the size. I find this weird. What about plates or just different flavors for the same “space size”?. Or am I completely wrong?

  • @tahiche said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Haven’t opened Pro-R in a long time, sort of abandoned it because I couldn’t quite understand it. Seems like you can’t choose the reverb algorithm?. I think it does it automatically based on the size. I find this weird. What about plates or just different flavors for the same “space size”?. Or am I completely wrong?

    With me it is the other way around. 🤓 After I bought it I rarely used it, but after I started to mix/master, I can't live without it. It’s clean and precise, you can dial decay spectrally in a sec. Using Pro-R to glue things and as a clean reverb in general. You can’t do this with many other reverbs out there.

  • TB Reverb has a few tricks up it's sleeve which other reverbs do not have, it can do 'shimmer', has LFOs that can be used to modulate various parameters, a built-in gate for gated-reverbs among other things.

    Definitely a worthy tool to have in the 'tool box' even though the presets do not showcase everything it's capable of.
    The manual is well worth a read...
    https://www.toneboosters.com/manuals/TB_Reverb.pdf

  • edited June 2023

    @Luxthor said:

    @tahiche said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Haven’t opened Pro-R in a long time, sort of abandoned it because I couldn’t quite understand it. Seems like you can’t choose the reverb algorithm?. I think it does it automatically based on the size. I find this weird. What about plates or just different flavors for the same “space size”?. Or am I completely wrong?

    With me it is the other way around. 🤓 After I bought it I rarely used it, but after I started to mix/master, I can't live without it. It’s clean and precise, you can dial decay spectrally in a sec. Using Pro-R to glue things and as a clean reverb in general. You can’t do this with many other reverbs out there.

    Please keep going!. I’m happy to be influenced in this matter 🙋🏻‍♂️😂
    So you’d say Pro-R is a one trick pony kind of thing?. Transparent and precise reverb with a lot of control?. Maybe that’s the thing, it doesn’t have a very evident sound of its own like emulating whatever plates… I’m not a huge reverb guy, I just like to place stuff in a space, I don’t particularly enjoy “hearing the reverb”. I need a reverb masterclass, people are so opinionated about reverbs and I feel like I’m missing out!.

  • @tahiche said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @tahiche said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Haven’t opened Pro-R in a long time, sort of abandoned it because I couldn’t quite understand it. Seems like you can’t choose the reverb algorithm?. I think it does it automatically based on the size. I find this weird. What about plates or just different flavors for the same “space size”?. Or am I completely wrong?

    With me it is the other way around. 🤓 After I bought it I rarely used it, but after I started to mix/master, I can't live without it. It’s clean and precise, you can dial decay spectrally in a sec. Using Pro-R to glue things and as a clean reverb in general. You can’t do this with many other reverbs out there.

    Please keep going!. I’m happy to be influenced in this matter 🙋🏻‍♂️😂
    So you’d say Pro-R is a one trick pony kind of thing?. Transparent and precise reverb with a lot of control?. Maybe that’s the thing, it doesn’t have a very evident sound of its own like emulating whatever plates… I’m not a huge reverb guy, I just like to place stuff in a space, I don’t particularly enjoy “hearing the reverb”. I need a reverb masterclass, people are so opinionated about reverbs and I feel like I’m missing out!.

    That comes across to me as a bizarre mischaracterization of what @Luxthor wrote. Equating transparent and precise as "one trick pony" when what it really suggests is versatility. The point would be that the flexibility of control via functionality like spectral control of decay means that the majority of supposed algorithm switches as found in an older type of digital reverb are kind of irrelevant. The opposite of his terms being opaque and imprecise which would really be of no use in the work of "engineer"-ing a mix.

  • @Bruques said:

    @tahiche said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @tahiche said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Haven’t opened Pro-R in a long time, sort of abandoned it because I couldn’t quite understand it. Seems like you can’t choose the reverb algorithm?. I think it does it automatically based on the size. I find this weird. What about plates or just different flavors for the same “space size”?. Or am I completely wrong?

    With me it is the other way around. 🤓 After I bought it I rarely used it, but after I started to mix/master, I can't live without it. It’s clean and precise, you can dial decay spectrally in a sec. Using Pro-R to glue things and as a clean reverb in general. You can’t do this with many other reverbs out there.

    Please keep going!. I’m happy to be influenced in this matter 🙋🏻‍♂️😂
    So you’d say Pro-R is a one trick pony kind of thing?. Transparent and precise reverb with a lot of control?. Maybe that’s the thing, it doesn’t have a very evident sound of its own like emulating whatever plates… I’m not a huge reverb guy, I just like to place stuff in a space, I don’t particularly enjoy “hearing the reverb”. I need a reverb masterclass, people are so opinionated about reverbs and I feel like I’m missing out!.

    That comes across to me as a bizarre mischaracterization of what @Luxthor wrote. Equating transparent and precise as "one trick pony" when what it really suggests is versatility. The point would be that the flexibility of control via functionality like spectral control of decay means that the majority of supposed algorithm switches as found in an older type of digital reverb are kind of irrelevant. The opposite of his terms being opaque and imprecise which would really be of no use in the work of "engineer"-ing a mix.

    You’re probably right, which goes to prove what I said in the original post when I stated “I couldn’t quite understand it”. I didn’t mean the “one trick pony” in a negative way, and I think I understand now it was completely off. Let me try again, now with your answer…

    flexibility of control via functionality like spectral control of decay means that the majority of supposed algorithm switches as found in an older type of digital reverb are kind of irrelevant

    What I understand by this is that instead of just flicking a switch to switch the algorithm, the spectral control will achieve basically the same but with more control?. Is this how you make it sound like a plate or a room?. I’m looking at a plate preset on Pro-R… the combination of yellow (post eq) and yellow (decay) eq curves are what it make it sound like a plate. Is that right?.
    Thanks for your answers, very helpful

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Damn my acursed dumb brain. I meant I'll use TB Reverb in my collab with Paulie, not Pro-R. 😅

    You saying Pro-R confused me at first and then I thought “maybe TB Reverb has Pro-R in the title” then I thought maybe you were using both. My brain got equally scrambled 🤣

    Only time I want my brain scrambled is when I'm high, lol.

    Same here 😂 I don’t even do that but every few days or less. Yet somehow I’m stroll scrambled like an egg 😅

    😂🤣🤣

    You guys need to go watch the Easy Rider movie (1969, but who can remember the 60s?) with Dennis Hopper, Peter Fonda, and Jack Nicholson (actor and producer in this one).

    And from that movie:

    https://music.apple.com/us/album/dont-bogart-me-aka-dont-bogart-that-joint/1455539188?i=1455539196

  • @tahiche said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Haven’t opened Pro-R in a long time, sort of abandoned it because I couldn’t quite understand it. Seems like you can’t choose the reverb algorithm?. I think it does it automatically based on the size. I find this weird. What about plates or just different flavors for the same “space size”?. Or am I completely wrong?

    I actually don’t have Pro R. I use TB Reverb for most of that. I probably will get it someday though. It’s the only big reverb I’m lacking and I do love the FF stuff. Volcano and Saturn are 2 of my most used effects now.

  • edited June 2023

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Damn my acursed dumb brain. I meant I'll use TB Reverb in my collab with Paulie, not Pro-R. 😅

    You saying Pro-R confused me at first and then I thought “maybe TB Reverb has Pro-R in the title” then I thought maybe you were using both. My brain got equally scrambled 🤣

    Only time I want my brain scrambled is when I'm high, lol.

    Only got over-easy today, sorry. lights nightcap joint, tokes, exhales cooly

    Now come on! Let’s get nuts! smashes decorative vase with fire poker

  • @tahiche said:

    @Bruques said:

    @tahiche said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @tahiche said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Haven’t opened Pro-R in a long time, sort of abandoned it because I couldn’t quite understand it. Seems like you can’t choose the reverb algorithm?. I think it does it automatically based on the size. I find this weird. What about plates or just different flavors for the same “space size”?. Or am I completely wrong?

    With me it is the other way around. 🤓 After I bought it I rarely used it, but after I started to mix/master, I can't live without it. It’s clean and precise, you can dial decay spectrally in a sec. Using Pro-R to glue things and as a clean reverb in general. You can’t do this with many other reverbs out there.

    Please keep going!. I’m happy to be influenced in this matter 🙋🏻‍♂️😂
    So you’d say Pro-R is a one trick pony kind of thing?. Transparent and precise reverb with a lot of control?. Maybe that’s the thing, it doesn’t have a very evident sound of its own like emulating whatever plates… I’m not a huge reverb guy, I just like to place stuff in a space, I don’t particularly enjoy “hearing the reverb”. I need a reverb masterclass, people are so opinionated about reverbs and I feel like I’m missing out!.

    That comes across to me as a bizarre mischaracterization of what @Luxthor wrote. Equating transparent and precise as "one trick pony" when what it really suggests is versatility. The point would be that the flexibility of control via functionality like spectral control of decay means that the majority of supposed algorithm switches as found in an older type of digital reverb are kind of irrelevant. The opposite of his terms being opaque and imprecise which would really be of no use in the work of "engineer"-ing a mix.

    You’re probably right, which goes to prove what I said in the original post when I stated “I couldn’t quite understand it”. I didn’t mean the “one trick pony” in a negative way, and I think I understand now it was completely off. Let me try again, now with your answer…

    flexibility of control via functionality like spectral control of decay means that the majority of supposed algorithm switches as found in an older type of digital reverb are kind of irrelevant

    What I understand by this is that instead of just flicking a switch to switch the algorithm, the spectral control will achieve basically the same but with more control?. Is this how you make it sound like a plate or a room?. I’m looking at a plate preset on Pro-R… the combination of yellow (post eq) and yellow (decay) eq curves are what it make it sound like a plate. Is that right?.
    Thanks for your answers, very helpful

    Sry guys, it was too late for me to reply last night. I love everything about reverberation, and will never refuse good talk about it.

    Pro-R was specifically designed to be easily fit into the mix, not to be too aggressive with coloration or everything else staying in a way for a good, clean mix. It’s not exciting like Blackhole or Valhalla and is far away from spring and plate simulations.

    Maybe for professionals on this forum it is a joke but when I discovered that for your instrument room you can change the type of the floor, adding carpets, changing wall density, adding wallpapers, glass, etc. with just two curves and few knobs was insta revelation for me. When you actually learn about reverberation and delay, every one of those knobs in Pro-R suddenly takes on another meaning: ‘Brigtness’ become density, ‘Character’ become algorithm, ‘Space’ become time and ‘Decay Rate EQ’ + ‘Post EQ’ became sculpting clay. That UI became a quick navigation panel for target sound.

    Because when mixing/mastering I already (mostly) know what is needed, so Pro-R is kinda a basic boring but efficient tool to add just that slight reverby feeling, without density or phase problems.

    Of course you can go wild with it, but that is another discussion. ;)

  • I use Pro-R for that nice bit of subtle mix addition. I prefer clean reverb to create ambience around parts and this just does that easily. TB Reverb will get a bit more use now especially when I'm playing on the phone. Unfortunately FF isn't universal.

  • @oat_phipps said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Damn my acursed dumb brain. I meant I'll use TB Reverb in my collab with Paulie, not Pro-R. 😅

    You saying Pro-R confused me at first and then I thought “maybe TB Reverb has Pro-R in the title” then I thought maybe you were using both. My brain got equally scrambled 🤣

    Only time I want my brain scrambled is when I'm high, lol.

    Only got over-easy today, sorry. lights nightcap joint, tokes, exhales cooly

    Now come on! Let’s get nuts! smashes decorative vase with fire poker

    Hahaha! 🤪😂🤣

  • @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Damn my acursed dumb brain. I meant I'll use TB Reverb in my collab with Paulie, not Pro-R. 😅

    You saying Pro-R confused me at first and then I thought “maybe TB Reverb has Pro-R in the title” then I thought maybe you were using both. My brain got equally scrambled 🤣

    Only time I want my brain scrambled is when I'm high, lol.

    Same here 😂 I don’t even do that but every few days or less. Yet somehow I’m stroll scrambled like an egg 😅

    Oh by the way mate, check your private messages. 😛

  • @Luxthor said:

    @tahiche said:

    @Bruques said:

    @tahiche said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @tahiche said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Bruques said:

    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Haven’t opened Pro-R in a long time, sort of abandoned it because I couldn’t quite understand it. Seems like you can’t choose the reverb algorithm?. I think it does it automatically based on the size. I find this weird. What about plates or just different flavors for the same “space size”?. Or am I completely wrong?

    With me it is the other way around. 🤓 After I bought it I rarely used it, but after I started to mix/master, I can't live without it. It’s clean and precise, you can dial decay spectrally in a sec. Using Pro-R to glue things and as a clean reverb in general. You can’t do this with many other reverbs out there.

    Please keep going!. I’m happy to be influenced in this matter 🙋🏻‍♂️😂
    So you’d say Pro-R is a one trick pony kind of thing?. Transparent and precise reverb with a lot of control?. Maybe that’s the thing, it doesn’t have a very evident sound of its own like emulating whatever plates… I’m not a huge reverb guy, I just like to place stuff in a space, I don’t particularly enjoy “hearing the reverb”. I need a reverb masterclass, people are so opinionated about reverbs and I feel like I’m missing out!.

    That comes across to me as a bizarre mischaracterization of what @Luxthor wrote. Equating transparent and precise as "one trick pony" when what it really suggests is versatility. The point would be that the flexibility of control via functionality like spectral control of decay means that the majority of supposed algorithm switches as found in an older type of digital reverb are kind of irrelevant. The opposite of his terms being opaque and imprecise which would really be of no use in the work of "engineer"-ing a mix.

    You’re probably right, which goes to prove what I said in the original post when I stated “I couldn’t quite understand it”. I didn’t mean the “one trick pony” in a negative way, and I think I understand now it was completely off. Let me try again, now with your answer…

    flexibility of control via functionality like spectral control of decay means that the majority of supposed algorithm switches as found in an older type of digital reverb are kind of irrelevant

    What I understand by this is that instead of just flicking a switch to switch the algorithm, the spectral control will achieve basically the same but with more control?. Is this how you make it sound like a plate or a room?. I’m looking at a plate preset on Pro-R… the combination of yellow (post eq) and yellow (decay) eq curves are what it make it sound like a plate. Is that right?.
    Thanks for your answers, very helpful

    Sry guys, it was too late for me to reply last night. I love everything about reverberation, and will never refuse good talk about it.

    Pro-R was specifically designed to be easily fit into the mix, not to be too aggressive with coloration or everything else staying in a way for a good, clean mix. It’s not exciting like Blackhole or Valhalla and is far away from spring and plate simulations.

    Maybe for professionals on this forum it is a joke but when I discovered that for your instrument room you can change the type of the floor, adding carpets, changing wall density, adding wallpapers, glass, etc. with just two curves and few knobs was insta revelation for me. When you actually learn about reverberation and delay, every one of those knobs in Pro-R suddenly takes on another meaning: ‘Brigtness’ become density, ‘Character’ become algorithm, ‘Space’ become time and ‘Decay Rate EQ’ + ‘Post EQ’ became sculpting clay. That UI became a quick navigation panel for target sound.

    Because when mixing/mastering I already (mostly) know what is needed, so Pro-R is kinda a basic boring but efficient tool to add just that slight reverby feeling, without density or phase problems.

    Of course you can go wild with it, but that is another discussion. ;)

    If I had Pro-R, your explanation of each knobs purpose would no doubt be very helpful. Thanks for that!

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  • @Johne1 said:

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    @Johne1 said:
    I’ve read so many great things about TB Reverb, so I bought it along with some other reverbs. The other reverbs were fantastic out of the box (ADverb2 and Eos 2). Their presets, even their Default preset, sounded amazing.

    Then I tried TB Reverb, and wow, what a let down. The default setting, and even all the presets, don’t showcase all the great sounds I’ve been reading about. Very mild, subtle reverb. Not at all what I was expecting.

    Am I giving up too easily on it? Are ADverb2 and Eos 2 really that much better than TB Reverb?

    Your thoughts, please. Thanks!

    John

    I love TB Reverb. I love the way they compartmentalized the sections, the EQ, a comprehensive shimmer section, that it has in built side chain ducking really useful and a common requirement in mix duties to keep reverbs out of the way in crucial passages and then let them breathe at the right times, and not typical to find built in to any reverb unit this functionality is something we usually have to configure around and outside. So TB reverb is a very comprehensive reverb workhorse. Amongst tinily select company of flexible powerful verbs. choosable in a majority of times to be able to dial in exactly what is needed.

    TB Reverb has built-in side chaining!? 😳 And a shimmer section?! I simply have it as I'm a completionist, but I never really actually dug into it before. Well, guess better now than never, lol.

    Oh man you gotta do it. I didn’t buy it until a few weeks ago and it instantly became my go-to. It’s just so good. Lemme know what you think once you use it. I haven’t tried the FF one yet but the TB reverb sounds so professional. Like I’d have no problems bringing it into a studio.

    Maybe I missed a few things regarding Pro-R, but I just wasn't all that impressed with it. But TB Reverb? Once Paulie and I start our collab, I'll be using Pro-R to see what it can do. :)

    I only hear good things about Pro-R and I love the 4 FF apps I do have, but now that I have TB Reverb I don’t feel the urge to buy it as much. It’s the only big reverb I don’t have so who knows? 😂

    Haven’t opened Pro-R in a long time, sort of abandoned it because I couldn’t quite understand it. Seems like you can’t choose the reverb algorithm?. I think it does it automatically based on the size. I find this weird. What about plates or just different flavors for the same “space size”?. Or am I completely wrong?

    With me it is the other way around. 🤓 After I bought it I rarely used it, but after I started to mix/master, I can't live without it. It’s clean and precise, you can dial decay spectrally in a sec. Using Pro-R to glue things and as a clean reverb in general. You can’t do this with many other reverbs out there.

    Please keep going!. I’m happy to be influenced in this matter 🙋🏻‍♂️😂
    So you’d say Pro-R is a one trick pony kind of thing?. Transparent and precise reverb with a lot of control?. Maybe that’s the thing, it doesn’t have a very evident sound of its own like emulating whatever plates… I’m not a huge reverb guy, I just like to place stuff in a space, I don’t particularly enjoy “hearing the reverb”. I need a reverb masterclass, people are so opinionated about reverbs and I feel like I’m missing out!.

    That comes across to me as a bizarre mischaracterization of what @Luxthor wrote. Equating transparent and precise as "one trick pony" when what it really suggests is versatility. The point would be that the flexibility of control via functionality like spectral control of decay means that the majority of supposed algorithm switches as found in an older type of digital reverb are kind of irrelevant. The opposite of his terms being opaque and imprecise which would really be of no use in the work of "engineer"-ing a mix.

    You’re probably right, which goes to prove what I said in the original post when I stated “I couldn’t quite understand it”. I didn’t mean the “one trick pony” in a negative way, and I think I understand now it was completely off. Let me try again, now with your answer…

    flexibility of control via functionality like spectral control of decay means that the majority of supposed algorithm switches as found in an older type of digital reverb are kind of irrelevant

    What I understand by this is that instead of just flicking a switch to switch the algorithm, the spectral control will achieve basically the same but with more control?. Is this how you make it sound like a plate or a room?. I’m looking at a plate preset on Pro-R… the combination of yellow (post eq) and yellow (decay) eq curves are what it make it sound like a plate. Is that right?.
    Thanks for your answers, very helpful

    Sry guys, it was too late for me to reply last night. I love everything about reverberation, and will never refuse good talk about it.

    Pro-R was specifically designed to be easily fit into the mix, not to be too aggressive with coloration or everything else staying in a way for a good, clean mix. It’s not exciting like Blackhole or Valhalla and is far away from spring and plate simulations.

    Maybe for professionals on this forum it is a joke but when I discovered that for your instrument room you can change the type of the floor, adding carpets, changing wall density, adding wallpapers, glass, etc. with just two curves and few knobs was insta revelation for me. When you actually learn about reverberation and delay, every one of those knobs in Pro-R suddenly takes on another meaning: ‘Brigtness’ become density, ‘Character’ become algorithm, ‘Space’ become time and ‘Decay Rate EQ’ + ‘Post EQ’ became sculpting clay. That UI became a quick navigation panel for target sound.

    Because when mixing/mastering I already (mostly) know what is needed, so Pro-R is kinda a basic boring but efficient tool to add just that slight reverby feeling, without density or phase problems.

    Of course you can go wild with it, but that is another discussion. ;)

    If I had Pro-R, your explanation of each knobs purpose would no doubt be very helpful. Thanks for that!

    Glad you like it, I also love to hear other people's experiences. If you have Logic iOS, you can use SilverVerb. It's a really fine clean reverb, just for those slight touches.

    @ehehehe said:
    Spot on. It's very fast to dial in exactly what you need, it's transparent and also more "hifi" sounding compared to many of the more characterful and crazy reverbs out there. For daily duties and just putting stuff in the same space it gets the most use out of my eight or so reverbs.

    It’s never enough of reverbs, especially if you can get them cheap, like all of them on iOS. Regarding Pro-R, agree with you, this one is the Reverb reverb. ;)

  • @Johne1 said:

    @Crabman said:
    Take care of EOS. Once i had a HORRIBLE loud noise burst from eos while using it in aum. Like heartattack loud. I really liked the eos sound but uninstalled it right away…

    I was trying all 3 reverbs in AUM. FYI, in his latest description, the Eos 2 developer says he completely rewrote it and now it’s coded exactly the same as his desktop version.

    the last update is 3 years old and my issue happened last year. Maybe just bad luck but i need to protect myself and my ears 😉 Apps can crash, that‘s fine. But they absolutely shouldn‘t do this with armageddon noise…

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