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Abu Dhabi Sampler Gadget video demo
Hi guys,
just made a quick demo video of Abu Dhabi, i havent bought the other one yet.
Its a really cool gadget and i will be using this a lot.
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Good video, always useful to have a different perspective and you showed some stuff like the effects that Doug didn't.
Thanks for the quick upload, that was informative
That was really informative, great demo
thanks for the vid man appreciate it, and yours too Doug.
Finally a video where i can see how it works, thanx a lot for do it and share it
I can see The Franchise developing now: Fresh videos delivered from time-zones around the world....Seriously though Buska, good stuff. Answered a couple of things that I had been wondering about, so double plus thanks for that.
Good video - thanks
So I'm sitting on the buy button, but one question. If you import exact loops, do they map to the song tempo 16 slice points?
i.e. can I import 2 files, 100 bpm and 120 bpm and each will map to the full length of the 16 slices whatever the tempo of the song? Or does it just import the file as is and it displays 16 slices worth at song tempo regardless of whether the file is faster or slower?
The example in the vid above seemed to truncate a whole bunch of silence from the end of the audioshare file.. so I'm not holding out much hope.
@skoptic : Think Propellerheads Recycle, that's how Abu works. It detects transients in the audio and places the slices accordingly. So a 100 or 120 bpm drumloop adjusts just fine to any tempo. You can move the slice points manually, if Abu messes up some slice or need some micro adjusting.
Right now the sample length limit is 10 seconds for Abu, from what I can tell. Hopefully Korg raises that limit with new iPads w. more RAM.
Thanks @ChrisG..... I was just confused to see a lot of silence at the end of the audioshare file get trimmed. Maybe that was over the 10 secs.
I like how this is defaulting to Abu, seems so friendly somehow....
@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Slicing things up in Abu Ghraib
Thanks a lot for the video @buska!
Bummer about the 10 second limit. @chrisg does it allow you to open a file that's longer than 10s and then just truncate anything over 10s?
Saw a comment on FB about being able to import longer samples by dragging all of the markers (except the 1st one) to the right. Something to try...
Hi @telecharge would you be able to post a link to that Facebook post?
I have played around a bit and it seems to cut any longer sample you add down to 10secs. But it would be great if there's a trick to get longer samples in.
I am unable to link to it as it is private, but a later comment said it was done using AudioCopy/Paste if that helps.
Not really since that is how you get samples into Gadget.
As Buska pointed out in the video, there are two empty start/end-points parameters in the midi section for Abu. I'm guessing Korg are waiting a bit before allowing longer samples, due to the memory issues on the current iDevices. Or perhaps they are gathering analytics to see how well it performs, before upping the limits.
You could take a long WAV and use AudioShare's trimming to perfectly cut it into 5 second chunks, then load those chunks into Bilbao's pads. 16 pads with 5 seconds each equals 80 seconds of audio in one instance of Bilbao.
A suboptimal solution, but better than loading eight instances of Abu with 10 seconds of audio each.
Any chance the longer sample "trick" works in Bilbao? Sorry if this is a red herring.
Great video @buska. The more demo videos, the better.
Thanks for the comments guys, appreciate it.
As far as the sample truncating thing goes, it seems to cut at 10 seconds and then detect the transients? The file I sent from audioshare was 17 sec, but I just went and looked in audiocopy and the file length jumped to 1:08!! I think this is a bug with audiocopy. All the other loops that I trimmed in audioshare are fine and correct length so I think audiocopy just glitched out, regardless of that Abu Dhabi still only used the first 10sec and chopped it on the transients so that's pretty cool, though it didn't chop it as well as the same sample with the silence truncated beforehand in audioshare.
I have tried copying that same file 3 times now from audioshare to audiocopy and every time it jumps from 17 sec to 1:08. Definately a repeatable bug so I will send the WAV file to retronyms. It also displays no waveform in the audiocopy edit screen..
Hi @phantasm.
Great suggestion, thanks. I'll try that. (With more instances of Bilbao you could then theoretically lay down an even longer audio track). Wonder if it produces clicks though. I'll try it later and post back.
I've had some success already writing an 8 bar fairly portamento-based Thor synth part in beatmaker2/thor and then sampling it (audiobus to audio share) as 4 different parts (based on where the new attacks start) to 4 different Bilbao pads and triggering at the right time in gadget. Works well.
I must say I think the update is a total game changer for me (I want the simplicity of composing whole tracks in gadget) now that you can bring external sounds in.
does it really chop on transients? To me it looks like the markers are in same positions no matter what sample I load in
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
Yup I feel the same, the biggest win for me is the smooth workflow of using the sample export to audioshare in Samplr.
Samplr is my most used app by far and now I can develop tracks much further in gadget using these two samplers.
And then export the whole thing to ableton.. Awesome
@firejan82 said:
Hmm not sure? Will have to experiment a bit
Edit:
Yup your right firejan82, it just lays the chops down across the file in the same predetermined places. I made a 1 and a half bar loop and it missed all the transients.
So with a file that's longer than the 10 seconds I wonder if it's chopping just at 10 sec and then just slicing?
People might also find it useful to know that I found Abu Dhabi will only play about 5 seconds per slice without decaying the sound. So even if you import a 10 second sample you can't play a the whole thing in one slice. It only plays the first 5 secs then decays.
Please someone correct me if I've got this wrong.
Essentially if you simply want a gadget to bring audio in and don't want to buy both - go for Bilbao and spread over multiple pads.
Shame they don't make the whole thing a little easier though!
I just tried importing a loop with silenced start and end points, same loop with only silenced end part, and a finally the same loop edited to a loop. And it does not detect transients as I thought first. So either you need to import proper loops for it to slice across the pads correctly , if the sample is not correctly looped you need to move the slice points manually. Not the biggest issue exactly, I edit all my things before importing it into something anyways. Plus, moving around the slice points is a fast dealio in Abu.
@ChrisG said:
Thanks for the clarification ChrisG.
I think I got thrown by the auto trimming of the bigger file.
But yeah the ability to trim in audioshare using snap to bpm negates any issues I suppose. Audioshare is a great app
Work done - now I get to play :-)
Yeah I'm lucky all my loops are exact, but audioshare (while being great) seriously needs some zoom functionality for me to properly chop loops in it. The bpm thing is nice .. But zoom would make me use it more.
Abu Dhabi def worth £6.99 for me. It'll make me use gadget, where I didn't really before
@skoptic said:
Zoom is on the development plan for Audioshare -- I asked J. about it earlier this week because I was thinking the same as you.