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LALAL.AI Stem Spllitter Now on iOS

shinyisshinyshinyisshiny
in General App Discussion

https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id6448799140

It has been on desktop for a while now. Im not sure what algorithm they use, but its my go to for stem splitting, it sounds the best to me. A bit pricey, but ive gotten really great results

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  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @shinyisshiny said:
    https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id6448799140

    It has been on desktop for a while now. Im not sure what algorithm they use, but its my go to for stem splitting, it sounds the best to me. A bit pricey, but ive gotten really great results

    Out of curiosity, have you compared to Koala using the same source?

  • RajahPRajahP

    Wow, I guess I have been asleep on these splitters... Thanks... Pretty stunning...

  • musikeermusikeer

    It collects a lot of data... when it's free, you're the product as they say.

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @musikeer said:
    It collects a lot of data... when it's free, you're the product as they say.

    IAP for amount of time, ie 25mins $4.99, 90 mins $14.99.

    I’m guessing up to 25 mins is free?

  • shinyisshinyshinyisshiny

    @espiegel123 said:

    @shinyisshiny said:
    https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id6448799140

    It has been on desktop for a while now. Im not sure what algorithm they use, but its my go to for stem splitting, it sounds the best to me. A bit pricey, but ive gotten really great results

    Out of curiosity, have you compared to Koala using the same source?

    i have not. i do use koala's as well, and its great! I just find lalala's has less artifacts. Could just be my perception though. would be fun to try a back to back comparison.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @shinyisshiny said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @shinyisshiny said:
    https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id6448799140

    It has been on desktop for a while now. Im not sure what algorithm they use, but its my go to for stem splitting, it sounds the best to me. A bit pricey, but ive gotten really great results

    Out of curiosity, have you compared to Koala using the same source?

    i have not. i do use koala's as well, and its great! I just find lalala's has less artifacts. Could just be my perception though. would be fun to try a back to back comparison.

    Without comparing extraction from the same source, I am not sure one can judge relative quality because with the same app there is a lot of variation from song to song.

    If you could extract from both with the same source, it would be great to know if there is a difference.

  • shinyisshinyshinyisshiny

    @espiegel123 said:

    @shinyisshiny said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @shinyisshiny said:
    https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id6448799140

    It has been on desktop for a while now. Im not sure what algorithm they use, but its my go to for stem splitting, it sounds the best to me. A bit pricey, but ive gotten really great results

    Out of curiosity, have you compared to Koala using the same source?

    i have not. i do use koala's as well, and its great! I just find lalala's has less artifacts. Could just be my perception though. would be fun to try a back to back comparison.

    Without comparing extraction from the same source, I am not sure one can judge relative quality because with the same app there is a lot of variation from song to song.

    If you could extract from both with the same source, it would be great to know if there is a difference.

    i will try this later today and post results

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    Tx!

  • ecouecou

    Call me out of touch but what do you use the split tracks for ?

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  • jimhanksjimhanks

    Calling this a "mobile app" seems a bit disingenuous. From the description, it uploads the file, splits it "in the cloud" and downloads the stems. Calling it "AI" also seems disingenuous.

  • RajahPRajahP

    @jimhanks said:
    Calling this a "mobile app" seems a bit disingenuous. From the description, it uploads the file, splits it "in the cloud" and downloads the stems. Calling it "AI" also seems disingenuous.

    Don't seem to have to upload on this video...

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  • ecouecou

    @ehehehe said:

    @ecou said:
    Call me out of touch but what do you use the split tracks for ?

    Out of touch! 🙃 It's very useful for sampling if you only want a single track/instrument and not the whole arrangement. I guess this is way better than the open source algorithm in Koala and Let's Unmix, which as said leaves a lot of artifacts.

    Wound you prefer to make your own ? Majorly out of touch.

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  • PDKPDK

    Just had a go on the iPhone app. It certainly does upload what you feed it. There’s an option to create an account which I didn’t go for. It gave me 60 seconds preview of drums and without drums of one of my own tracks, and first impression was that it does seem to perform a bit better than Koala.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @jimhanks said:
    Calling this a "mobile app" seems a bit disingenuous. From the description, it uploads the file, splits it "in the cloud" and downloads the stems. Calling it "AI" also seems disingenuous.

    Why is calling it AI disingenuous? The most popular storm splitters use the Spleeter engine which is a machine-learning (AI) based algorithm.

  • buskerbusker

    I've been using Transcribe+ for splitting stems:

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/transcribe-slow-down-music/id1048119179

    Are these other solutions notably better?

  • ecouecou

    @ehehehe said:

    @ecou said:

    @ehehehe said:

    @ecou said:
    Call me out of touch but what do you use the split tracks for ?

    Out of touch! 🙃 It's very useful for sampling if you only want a single track/instrument and not the whole arrangement. I guess this is way better than the open source algorithm in Koala and Let's Unmix, which as said leaves a lot of artifacts.

    Wound you prefer to make your own ? Majorly out of touch.

    Make my own what?

    Sounds that you take from split tracks.

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited August 2023

    Ok.. Downloaded… This is Magic…

  • zzrwoodzzrwood
    edited August 2023

    @espiegel123 said:

    @shinyisshiny said:
    https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id6448799140

    It has been on desktop for a while now. Im not sure what algorithm they use, but its my go to for stem splitting, it sounds the best to me. A bit pricey, but ive gotten really great results

    Out of curiosity, have you compared to Koala using the same source?

    I have compared a few solutions in this space with the same source tracks.

    The three apps I tried were:
    1. Koala Sampler - that I believe uses the open source Spleeter library that a number of other iOS apps use;
    2. Yamaha’s Rec’n’Share - which only works properly when paired with certain Yamaha hardware devices - in my case a CK61 keyboard; and
    3. RipX Deep Remix on a Mac.

    My totally subjective opinions on the results were:

    1. Koala had the worst results on vocals with a fair bit of bleed through from other instruments. As with all the software, results varied depending on input material. Probably ok for use cases like dropping out vocals for Karaoke or guitar/bass for backing tracks for practice. Struggled the most to get clear percussive elements on drum tracks.
    2. The stupidly named Rec’n’Share fared a little better, particularly on keeping the vocals a bit cleaner - but the fact that it has to be regularly attached to one of a small subset of Yamaha instruments is a total pain and probably rules it out for most…
    3. RipX Deep Remix was on a totally different level, far superior to the iOS apps. It could also identify (and modify!) pitches of each instrument, and even did a passable job of identifying guitar chords in some cases. Again, results did vary based on source. RipX also has add-on programs, available for purchase, that can further fine tune the results.

    In summary, all the apps did work to a degree - and it would depend on your use case and the source material as to whether they were fit for purpose. Unsurprisingly, the more expensive app on the Mac did provide the best results.

    There are a number of other tools on the desktop, here is a comparison of the major ones:

    https://musictech.com/guides/buyers-guide/best-stem-separation-tools/

  • jimhanksjimhanks

    @espiegel123 said:

    @jimhanks said:
    Calling this a "mobile app" seems a bit disingenuous. From the description, it uploads the file, splits it "in the cloud" and downloads the stems. Calling it "AI" also seems disingenuous.

    Why is calling it AI disingenuous? The most popular storm splitters use the Spleeter engine which is a machine-learning (AI) based algorithm.

    Hmm, ok, I'll stand corrected on that point.

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  • taeotaeo

    @ecou said:
    Call me out of touch but what do you use the split tracks for ?

    Say you wanna remix a track but the a cappella isn’t available. Just take the track and extract the vocals from it. Or you wanna sample a section of audio, but don’t want the drums in it, can easily take those out. For samplers/resamplers, it’s a very useful strategy.

  • shinyisshinyshinyisshiny
    edited August 2023

    Here's comparison of Koala and Lalala. Al Green's "Let's Stay Together. "

    I just did drums and vocals. Lalala's is clearly cleaner / less wonky. @espiegel123

  • shinyisshinyshinyisshiny

    @ecou i personally use them mainly for getting a certain snare or kick etc. Ive gotten some wicked Fleetwood Mac top loops / snares , that tucked in and layered with other samples, no one would ever know. Its sampling, but not obvious. Very cool way to add vintage character to your song. Other use cases are sustained bass notes, Public domain orchestral recordings, etc, that you can use in your songs and snag the parts you need while not having to worry about copyright laws.

    I also have this theory, that if you use the groove of a song that is a classic, like Fleetwood's Dreams, and tuck it in your track, listeners will subconsciously be drawn to it.

  • PDKPDK

    @shinyisshiny said:
    @ecou i personally use them mainly for getting a certain snare or kick etc. Ive gotten some wicked Fleetwood Mac top loops / snares , that tucked in and layered with other samples, no one would ever know. Its sampling, but not obvious. Very cool way to add vintage character to your song. Other use cases are sustained bass notes, Public domain orchestral recordings, etc, that you can use in your songs and snag the parts you need while not having to worry about copyright laws.

    I also have this theory, that if you use the groove of a song that is a classic, like Fleetwood's Dreams, and tuck it in your track, listeners will subconsciously be drawn to it.

    Alternatively, if you want to repel listeners, you can use anything by Cher 😉

  • RajahPRajahP

    @shinyisshiny said:
    Here's comparison of Koala and Lalala. Al Green's "Let's Stay Together. "

    I just did drums and vocals. Lalala's is clearly cleaner / less wonky. @espiegel123

    Thanks...

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @shinyisshiny said:
    Here's comparison of Koala and Lalala. Al Green's "Let's Stay Together. "

    I just did drums and vocals. Lalala's is clearly cleaner / less wonky. @espiegel123

    Thanks so much for posting that. The difference is quite noticeable.

  • shinyisshinyshinyisshiny

    @espiegel123 @RajahP sure! hope it helped! I like the immediacy of koala, and honestly some of the grains kind of give it character. For more important sounds tho, i think lalalla is the winner

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