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Did a vocal strip of Koala, and it was pretty good.. Think I can get by with it for now…
Now, just wishing to save those loops in Logic Pro for IPad..
“We strongly recommend against uploading content that includes third-party intellectual property (such as copy-righted material) unless you have permission from that party to do so. Users are legally responsible for the content they upload to the application.”
Clearly dev’s attempt to CYA, but what other use is there? I’m pretty sure I can break out stems from my own music without this app (don’t misread that statement - it’s just a bit of snark). We can dream up some unlikely scenario, but is clearly going to be used for copyrighted songs. Aside from hip-hopers wanting to steal some audio, this app seems like a tool for learning music. An artist/band wanting to cover “Let it Be” (used in their example screen captures) could use this to get lyrics (freely available online) but also clean audio of guitar, bass or drums to have as examples for practice. It is often quite hard to find sheet music that has a full accompaniment transcribed (speaking genreally, not specificallyabout “Let it Be”). Most sheet music is geared for a specific instrument or are simplified versions for piano. So… why would someone need permission from the copy-right holder for this use case? The only need for “permission” would be getting a mechanical license to release a cover of “Let it Be.”
I’ve not used the app, so I’m curious how people are using this. I downloaded it but all I get when I open it is the spinning circle of death and the text “Discovering”. Discovering what? And can anyone explain the IAP? Do you really need to purchase a certain amount of time before you can use it? 25 minutes of use costs $5? 😳
yah hahah. they know what people are using it for, definitely just saying that to cover their asses.
Im not sure why the app is not working for you. and yes, the IAP is a bit expensive, but the quality is above the rest, if its worth it to you to use this above a free one like koala etc, thats up to you!
So, say you rip a 'copyrighted' vocal... and created something special...
I see this as a win-win for the artist and the producer... Say a song that never really got the recognition it deserved (back then)...
I haven’t tried Koala…. I’ll look into it. Thanks for the tip.
When I have done cover songs in the past I have done it the old(hard) way: gather as much sheet music as possible and listen to the original song over and over. If these apps can split out stems, it would be conceiveably possible to use those stems an audio to MIDI converter, then plop MIDI files into notation software to get more accurate sheet music. Is that how people are using these apps? Or are they more for using stems to create rap tracks? (Not addressing copy-right issues since those are pretty well covered by the existing laws).
What if they create something you hate with your music and it’s not very special. How would you feel ?
Your opinion of whether the original artist benefited from the theft doesn’t matter. If you take someone’s music and intend to release it, it is on you to get their permission. Whether you see it as a win-win is inconsequential—what matters is what they think.
true! if you are warping the audio beyond belief, granulating, chopping, pitching, reversing etc, you are likely good to go, yet always have a risk of someone catching on. If you are a smaller artist, with not very much streaming etc, you are likely in the clear. If you plan to release commercially and anticipate any level of success, wether that be placement with a major label, sync placement, high traffic on streaming sites etc, its best to be on the safe side and either clear the samples, or remove them all together.
There are many additional ways to use these tools too. You can extract the groove of a rhthym section, and apply it to your own, you can grab one shots and layer them with your own. You can take melodic inspiration and interpolate. You can study the separated tracks to see how songs are created etc etc etc.
as others have pointed out, this is very subjective. What if you sample the instrumental, make a beautiful song, that everyone absolutely loves, but put lyrics about taking down the government or something else that does not align with the original artist beliefs.
i create a fair amount of covers for other artist, and ive found that for the majority of songs people want to cover, there are existing midi files out. Just search " (song name) full midi file) etc. If you cant find it right away, try different key words like " (artist name) midi files", or " (song name) - piano cover midi'. Etc etc. It doesnt work for every song, but i'd say it works for 90% of the songs i get requested to produce as covers.
The quality may be above other iOS apps but IMHO not above what can be done on a Mac/PC with something like RIPX - which has a one time purchase and has all ripping done locally.
A comparison of what is currently possible is at: https://musictech.com/guides/buyers-guide/best-stem-separation-tools/
I always remember Eddie Van Halen talking about the first time he heard on the radio Tone-Loc - Wild Thing that uses heavy Sampling of the Van Halen song Jamies Cryin'. The band or management had not been contacted before the song was released.
Your experience with covers is interesting. Which sources/website do you find to be more accurate? I have used MIDI files of covers, but I always find them to be close but not always right. Am I just gonna use mistaken MIDI files? Then you gotta wonder who has copyright on a MIDI file that isn’t 100% the original artist’s work. In the past I usually have felt I was compromising between sheet music and MIDI files. Not to mention lyrics that were missing 25% of a song. I’m thinking that apps like these could help in some of the tough spots, like on those blistering solos that have become iconic but not necessairly part of the sheet music. Since I can’t pull a Mozart on Salieri’s tune and play it after one listen, maybe an app like this could help. Any thoughts?
Well, not being familiar with the ‘clearing’ process.. I guess once I am being paid for my music. I will make a business decision.. and respect the creative aspect.
Well, you do know that some governments need to.. anyway. Yes, that’s a tough one..
But, ripped a vocal from a favorite of mine from way back then.. the vocal stand out and expresses the artist's thoughts. there is little I can do to change ‘his views’…
I appreciate this technology. I think most artists will see it as something to enhance their work.. and get paid also.
but there might be exceptions.. and I would assume there are ways to prevent usage. I think.
Edit... with all said, I think it creates a BOOM for this industry. an asset for the developers here, etc.
Maybe these companies can show some success stories for their products. I am sure there must be some 'producers' out here that this thing has 'changed' their lives...
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This one seems to be the best tracks extracting tool to my ears : https://github.com/Audio-AGI/AudioSep
Demo here:
https://audio-agi.github.io/Separate-Anything-You-Describe/
🤦🏻♂️ every time
It’s also useful for splitting audio of songs from Tracklib, which are cleared for sampling. The tracks on there sometimes have multitrack stems but a lot of them don’t.
Transcribe+ is what I use as well. It does a better job than Koala IMO. I will have to try LaLa and use it on Al Green's Sha-La-La and maybe even on Marvin Gaye's Make Me Wanna Holla.
Thanks for that tip!!!! It looks really good! ….which is probably why I bought it some time ago. I hate when I get an app and then forget that I even have it. This situation is getting out of hand. I need an app organizer. 🤦🏻♂️
I’d like to hear your thoughts. Is stem splitting an IAP? I have the app but it’s currently offloaded. Curious which is the best solution.
Anyone tried or using Lets Unmix? There’s an AU version as well.
Thanks for the tip. I did not know it. Seems to be interesting.
what's the price for this app?
The stem splitting is in fact an IAP. The full unlock is $19.99. They also offer monthly and annual subscription options. I did the one time $19.99 option. It works on my iPhone, Ipad and M1 Macbook Air. It's really cool being able to create stems on my phone whenever the urge/inspiration hits then airdrop the stems to my Ipad to load into Logic or BM3.
So, with the one-time payment full unlock at 19.99 do you get unlimited access and downloading?
i have been using it for a few years now. It works great, but there are better options in the last couple of years.
Thanks! May need to go ahead and grab the IAP finally. The demo mode I’ve been using for so long now is great so I’m sure it’s worth it and seems like it comes with lots of other features. Have you compared it to Lalal.ai yet?