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Why am I suddenly having flashbacks of Gandalf returning as the white wizard?! 😅 BTW, my favorite AU audio editor is Neon. But everything that demands serious attention, I do on the desktop iZotope RX and Logic.
Of wow... Yeah that guy is a real nasty piece of work but I genuinely don't think he was Berlin fx. Ppl also thought Berlin fx was 'jax the ripper' but I don't think so either, definitely not
Jax the Ripper! 😂🤣🤣💀
He called all his group members pedos 😂? I'd really like to see a 'how to make friends and influence people' style self help book from this guy, would be a priceless gem. Maybe in the style of Top Tips from Viz 😂
Yes he did. I was confused and just left the group. Just bizarre and weird.
One of @Simon's priceless gems haha
Cheers mates.
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Yeah it honestly kinda bugs me when some devs still don’t see iOS as something as viable as desktop. A lot of people (myself included) are iOS only but I think some devs still don’t realize that. That’s why I generally buy more from iOS specific developers or developers who equally support iOS. You get more for the money that way, imo, because you get the same features as desktop.
100%.
Imo your way of speaking is decidedly not similar to his. Not sure what it is that’s making them think you’re the same person. Your attitudes are polar opposites.
Lmao 😂😂😂😂
Also I’m iOS only and can vouch for Neon. It’s great.
Hoping you got yourself a good lawyer 🤣.
To answer @majorwizard047 (which btw I don't believe is anyone else but himself), though not the most intuitive of the bunch, auditor is my favourite audio editor on iOS, especially for the batch processing function. Neon and Twisted Wave are also great. I always found Ferrite visually extremely beautiful but never really clicked with it. And Wavebox is slowly growing on me for quick and simple edits. And to go the same "Tolkien" way as @Luxthor, I hope we'll see one day a new app rising to rule them all. Having an editor with a function to remove pops and clicks would be a great addition to the iOS world.
Very much agree with that last part.
I’ve never used Auditor but Wavebox has grown on me a lot. I’ll sometimes run fill 1-2 minute loops through it and use the AUV3 option to mangle it like crazy and then that will be the final track. It’s really good for things like that.
Neon is great for throwing into an AUM channel to sample a loop you don’t wanna lose. Or to record a clip to launch later. And the warp and grain functions are cool as well. TwistedWave never clicked with me.
There’s also Hokusai which is great from the free version I’ve tried.
Neon is quick, versatile and efficient. Swiss-knife of the audio editors. Also wild and unpredictive, so need to be tamed first.
Got Neon because I wanted to support Paul in the first place. Rarely have I needed to mangle with samples in a destructive way. All those needs came after I transferred tracks to the desktop. Lots of unwanted obstacles, so I needed more comprehensive tools.
For Neon and some of the Paul apps, I have a love/hate relationship. Love functionality and old school look, dislike some obscure UI elements. I’m aware of Auditor, it was and still is my top choice, but I bought Neon first and I don't need another one atm.
Oh, yes, I have a lawyer, his name is Shadowfax. 😂
Definitely. And the granular options can quickly take your sample into crazy territory. I love that it can be used as an AU. Sometimes I don’t wanna take up space saving an AUM template just for a loop I like, so being able to throw Neon in the effects slot and record the loop and then clear the template is very nice.
I know AUM can record but being able to save it, edit it right away, and launch it as a clip is super helpful workflow wise.
If 16-bits is enough…
If you try to record a HOT stereo signal as mono using Neon in AUM it will clip.
Using Core Audio/AUM’s native 32bit floats this would not be an issue…
It’s compromise because of recording memory restriction of AUv3, it’s intended by design. We should respect developer decision. I’m also on your side, it would be nice if we had the option to select between 16 or 32 bit.
I like the functionality of those apps, I do not like the UI / UX, in general, not one bit
True, it beats my logic why those limits is also present in the stand-alone...
...and when multiple input sources (like a multi-input audio interface) are present it should be possible to select which one of them to use for recording but nah, I've left Neon behind be as it just makes my brain boil in a not som pleasant way...
I also use Neon, it has all what you need to create a loop/slices, but it's not that user friendly and intuitive in my opinion. Selection is always kinda wierd and janky. I usually need to do several takes to make it all work at the end. Wish there is an app more streamlined and simplified for audio mangling to be honest
This is good info. I'd like to add a few comments to this thread, which I hope may be helpful.
I've got Neon, and I'm a big fan of 4Pockets, so I'm used to the way the interface works and how functions are often hiding underneath icons, and using long press to bring up additional controls. As a straight audio editor, Neon works very well for me, but what draws me to it is the swiss-army knife approach and it's broad collection of features other editors don't have. Frankly, it's got so much stuff packed into it that it can be a bit of a learning curve finding the available tools unless you watch the tutorials from 4Pockets (which I highly recommend if you have it), but after watching the vids in great depth I fell in love with it.
I can only fully comment on Neon since I have it but the others look worth checking out - I'm trying to decide which one to try first:
Neon
_Main things I use it for: _
Features I want/need:
So I'm looking at these three which were mentioned. I'm leaning toward Auditor.
Wavebox Audio Editor (USD $4.99)
Audio Editor
Luis Rivas
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wavebox-audio-editor/id1577078380
Auditor - Audio Editor (USD $9.99)
Audio Wave and Sample Editor
Living Memory Software
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/auditor-audio-editor/id1248284381
TwistedWave Audio Editor (Free + IAP)
Audio Editor for iPad
TwistedWave Software Ltd.
https://apps.apple.com/lu/app/twistedwave-audio-editor/id401438496
On a related not there's also a nice audio recording app that I've had for years, and it's worked really well for me, but I would not recommend it to other because it collects some data, which I like to avoid:
Voice Record Pro (Free + IAP)
Audio Recorder & Sound Editor
Dayana Networks Ltd
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/voice-record-pro/id546983235
Thanks for all the info. Neon and TwistedWave are big favorites among users. I just found out about Auditor in this thread and that’s a favorite for a lot of people too. It says that Wavebox is 5.00 now. I grabbed it for free and is one of the best free apps I got.
Keep in mind that Auditor can composite multiple files and has a multi-file/track editor. It doesn't host AUv3 but is my go to for fine edits and compositing.
For what I’m doing (experimental noise, extreme sample mangling, Lo-Fi, etc) 16 bits is fine but I do wish we had the option to do 32 bit floating in the standalone at least. I use Neon bc it offers a simpler approach to my workflow and kills multiple birds with one stone. But honestly, no single audio app on iOS is perfect unfortunately. Much like the DAW situation, all are missing something important and none have everything. Hopefully that will change eventually, in both cases.
Auditor is a great one. I just saw TheAudioDabbler “My Favorite Features” video and this is a great app. I think now that an app like Auditor is what I would prefer. This video is probably only the tip of the iceberg.
Never liked twisted wave, despite it perpetually being recommended by the usual suspects
Finally deleted twisted wave on all devices a couple years ago. Wavebox is fun 🤩
Haven’t used it in awhile, but I always thought Auditor is really good… though it hasn’t been updated in a good while
Great, informative post, thnx for taking the time!
I know it’s a DAW, but for an iPhone app I think the audio editor in Audio Evolution Mobile is as good and easy to use as any of the editors discussed here, supports Auv3 and 32-bit float files. Limited to linear crossfades only, but for more advanced crossfading a Mac app like Reaper will have more choices.
It’s a good one. @jwmmakerofmusic was saying recently that AEM would be good Android tool. If you wanted to make something in Android that’s a good choice for its editing. I was thinking if I had one ios daw choice for android, Zenbeats is a versatile daw including its drum pads sequencer. In terms of editing Aem holds more weight vs ZB’s versatile environment. A While back I made some requests to Roland with a list on improving their editing. Its too long to mention but they haven’t done nothing. Hopefully a next update.