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Baby audio new plugin Aug 24th

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  • @rs2000 said:
    Updated sketch, now with fold-able modules to save space and an XY pad to add live punch-in FX capability.

    wow, this looks really good from UI point of view.. very clean layout 👍

  • edited August 2023

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Kind of a cool plugin not gonna lie. However, I can do all this even with stock effects in NS2. (However I'm still going to buy it to support Baby Audio and Andrew Huang, and who knows, maybe it'll click with me.)

    As a big fan og NS and it’s build in FX, this plug is something very different .. i think UI is key here, how you can on one screen set up pretty complex FX chain and dramatically change the sound with just one knob - which is a kind of main point of this plugin.. Andrew explicitly mentioned it - yes you can do same with multiple standalone plugins a plethora of automation curves but this plugins makes whole process drastically simpler ..

    First time i feel pain that i can’t automate AUfx params in NS2 :-( I can see huge use case of this plugon in my music.

  • edited August 2023

    @dendy said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Kind of a cool plugin not gonna lie. However, I can do all this even with stock effects in NS2. (However I'm still going to buy it to support Baby Audio and Andrew Huang, and who knows, maybe it'll click with me.)

    As a big fan og NS and it’s build in FX, this plug is something very different .. i think UI is key here, how you can on one screen set up pretty complex FX chain and dramatically change the sound with just one knob - which is a kind of main point of this plugin.. Andrew explicitly mentioned it - yes you can do same with multiple standalone plugins a plethora of automation curves but this plugins makes whole process drastically simpler ..

    First time i feel pain that i can’t automate AUfx params in NS2 :-( I can see huge use case of this plugon in my music.

    Definitely. I'm trying to extend that by not only providing a "Transition" knob but also an X/Y pad to add live effects on top - it could be a different set of parameters that's active as long as the finger touches the X/Y pad.
    Still thinking about effect routing though...
    Probably a fixed effect routing could work.

  • @rs2000 said:

    @dendy said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Kind of a cool plugin not gonna lie. However, I can do all this even with stock effects in NS2. (However I'm still going to buy it to support Baby Audio and Andrew Huang, and who knows, maybe it'll click with me.)

    As a big fan og NS and it’s build in FX, this plug is something very different .. i think UI is key here, how you can on one screen set up pretty complex FX chain and dramatically change the sound with just one knob - which is a kind of main point of this plugin.. Andrew explicitly mentioned it - yes you can do same with multiple standalone plugins a plethora of automation curves but this plugins makes whole process drastically simpler ..

    First time i feel pain that i can’t automate AUfx params in NS2 :-( I can see huge use case of this plugon in my music.

    Definitely. I'm trying to extend that by not only providing a "Transition" knob but also an X/Y pad to add live effects on top - it could be a different set of parameters that's active as long as the finger touches the X/Y pad.
    Still thinking about effect routing though...
    Probably a fixed effect routing could work.

    I was thinking about this just now, would it work to have it as several racks that could just be shuffled by the user?

  • @HotStrange said:
    Turnado, and other apps like it, are more for sound mangling which usually doesn’t require pristine quality. I don’t really think they sound crappy though.

    Half the apps that come out these days seem to be designed to make your pristine sounds "crappy". :smiley:

  • @Simon said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Turnado, and other apps like it, are more for sound mangling which usually doesn’t require pristine quality. I don’t really think they sound crappy though.

    Half the apps that come out these days seem to be designed to make your pristine sounds "crappy". :smiley:

    Basically like the opposite of this you mean? 🤪😂

  • edited August 2023

    @Gavinski said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @FastGhost said:

    @rvr said:
    Lol at this guy and his reinvention of turnado for kids

    You didn't watch the video.

    He has a point. But what he fails to mention is Turnado is ugly as fuck and the effects sound really crappy

    Yeah Turnado looks and sounds pretty dated in many aspects

    I will choose Turnado design over Transit ‘pill blister pack look’ any time. 😂 And what do you mean by ‘dated sound’, it's so cryptic for my understanding. Do you mean this for legacy patches?! BTW, Turnado is still a beast, and it’s better than Transit in almost every aspect. 😛

  • @Krupa said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @dendy said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Kind of a cool plugin not gonna lie. However, I can do all this even with stock effects in NS2. (However I'm still going to buy it to support Baby Audio and Andrew Huang, and who knows, maybe it'll click with me.)

    As a big fan og NS and it’s build in FX, this plug is something very different .. i think UI is key here, how you can on one screen set up pretty complex FX chain and dramatically change the sound with just one knob - which is a kind of main point of this plugin.. Andrew explicitly mentioned it - yes you can do same with multiple standalone plugins a plethora of automation curves but this plugins makes whole process drastically simpler ..

    First time i feel pain that i can’t automate AUfx params in NS2 :-( I can see huge use case of this plugon in my music.

    Definitely. I'm trying to extend that by not only providing a "Transition" knob but also an X/Y pad to add live effects on top - it could be a different set of parameters that's active as long as the finger touches the X/Y pad.
    Still thinking about effect routing though...
    Probably a fixed effect routing could work.

    I was thinking about this just now, would it work to have it as several racks that could just be shuffled by the user?

    Hmm. That could work. Alternatively we could have just a few effect racks with presets to choose from a set of effects.

  • @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @FastGhost said:

    @rvr said:
    Lol at this guy and his reinvention of turnado for kids

    You didn't watch the video.

    He has a point. But what he fails to mention is Turnado is ugly as fuck and the effects sound really crappy

    Yeah Turnado looks and sounds pretty dated in many aspects

    I will choose Turnado design over Transit ‘pill blister pack look’ any time. 😂 And what do you mean by ‘dated sound’, it's so cryptic for my understanding. Do you mean this for legacy patches?! BTW, Turnado is still a beast, and it’s better than Transit in almost every aspect. 😛

    I dunno, maybe that comment is unfair, I just remember last time I used it, which is quite a long time ago, it seemed very much geared towards a certain kind of electro sound from about 15 years ago. Of course it can be used for other stuff. I just find the UI so ugly, aesthetically. Prefer Looperator I suppose. SugarBytes UIs are mostly not really up my street, from an aesthetic point of view. Probably Factory and Aparillo are better for me in that regard than their other apps

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @FastGhost said:

    @rvr said:
    Lol at this guy and his reinvention of turnado for kids

    You didn't watch the video.

    He has a point. But what he fails to mention is Turnado is ugly as fuck and the effects sound really crappy

    Yeah Turnado looks and sounds pretty dated in many aspects

    I will choose Turnado design over Transit ‘pill blister pack look’ any time. 😂 And what do you mean by ‘dated sound’, it's so cryptic for my understanding. Do you mean this for legacy patches?! BTW, Turnado is still a beast, and it’s better than Transit in almost every aspect. 😛

    I dunno, maybe that comment is unfair, I just remember last time I used it, which is quite a long time ago, it seemed very much geared towards a certain kind of electro sound from about 15 years ago. Of course it can be used for other stuff. I just find the UI so ugly, aesthetically. Prefer Looperator I suppose. SugarBytes UIs are mostly not really up my street, from an aesthetic point of view. Probably Factory and Aparillo are better for me in that regard than their other apps

    Yeah, I thought so! There are many old school patches and authors in the patch library, but it would be a loss to remove them. It’s fine not liking the design and UI look, actually it is entertaining to read about certain user experience. ;)

  • edited August 2023

    @rs2000
    Still thinking about effect routing though...
    Probably a fixed effect routing could work

    yes, at the end order of effecst is not that important, until distortion/drive/compressor (all fx which affects dynamics) are before delay/reverb ..

    On other side, it would be super powerfull to have in Drambo some module to control routing between other modules (something like matrix patchbay with inputs and outputs, and ability to save routings as presets in that module and being able to change routing using some dropdown of knob by recallingnsaved presets.

    Or it it is possible ?

    Btw. after my few weeks of ZenBeats evalutation i gave up on it, for now too much for me major bugs/caveats - now i am after long time back on Drambo and it finally starts clicking with me 👍👍👍

    Only thing which i am really missing is classic linear sequencer view, if that one day comes into Drambo then i am probably mentally ready to move with my production to Drambo, cause, honestly, there are some pretty smart design decisions !

  • @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @FastGhost said:

    @rvr said:
    Lol at this guy and his reinvention of turnado for kids

    You didn't watch the video.

    He has a point. But what he fails to mention is Turnado is ugly as fuck and the effects sound really crappy

    Yeah Turnado looks and sounds pretty dated in many aspects

    I will choose Turnado design over Transit ‘pill blister pack look’ any time. 😂 And what do you mean by ‘dated sound’, it's so cryptic for my understanding. Do you mean this for legacy patches?! BTW, Turnado is still a beast, and it’s better than Transit in almost every aspect. 😛

    I dunno, maybe that comment is unfair, I just remember last time I used it, which is quite a long time ago, it seemed very much geared towards a certain kind of electro sound from about 15 years ago. Of course it can be used for other stuff. I just find the UI so ugly, aesthetically. Prefer Looperator I suppose. SugarBytes UIs are mostly not really up my street, from an aesthetic point of view. Probably Factory and Aparillo are better for me in that regard than their other apps

    Yeah, I thought so! There are many old school patches and authors in the patch library, but it would be a loss to remove them. It’s fine not liking the design and UI look, actually it is entertaining to read about certain user experience. ;)

    When enough years pass, it will be trendy again haha

  • @Simon said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Turnado, and other apps like it, are more for sound mangling which usually doesn’t require pristine quality. I don’t really think they sound crappy though.

    Half the apps that come out these days seem to be designed to make your pristine sounds "crappy". :smiley:

    True and I’m loving it 😂 I’m a sucker for it I admit.

  • @dendy said:

    @rs2000
    Still thinking about effect routing though...
    Probably a fixed effect routing could work

    yes, at the end order of effecst is not that important, until distortion/drive/compressor (all fx which affects dynamics) are before delay/reverb ..

    On other side, it would be super powerfull to have in Drambo some module to control routing between other modules (something like matrix patchbay with inputs and outputs, and ability to save routings as presets in that module and being able to change routing using some dropdown of knob by recallingnsaved presets.

    Or it it is possible ?

    Btw. after my few weeks of ZenBeats evalutation i gave up on it, for now too much for me major bugs/caveats - now i am after long time back on Drambo and it finally starts clicking with me 👍👍👍

    Only thing which i am really missing is classic linear sequencer view, if that one day comes into Drambo then i am probably mentally ready to move with my production to Drambo, cause, honestly, there are some pretty smart design decisions !

    I love Zenbeats but have also been having some pretty big bugs with it lately. I’m mostly in AUM anyway with occasional dips into Drambo, Vatanator Pro, BM3, Loopy Pro, etc. I mostly use a DAW for mastering stems anyway and Logic is fine enough for that for now. I’ll still check in on ZB occasionally and may still use it, I’m undecided. But in terms of comfortability, AUM and Drambo win.

  • @dendy said:
    On other side, it would be super powerfull to have in Drambo some module to control routing between other modules (something like matrix patchbay with inputs and outputs, and ability to save routings as presets in that module and being able to change routing using some dropdown of knob by recallingnsaved presets.

    You probably need to accept the Drambo track rack paradigm and forget about rerouting. ;)

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:
    I'm curious to see how those rings around the knobs will work on iOS. Hopefully the do a better job than FabFilter.

    The rings around knobs for panning in fabfilter apps are far better now than they were a few years ago - you have a lot of leeway, you can touch and drag even outside the ring and it will work fine, in my experience. Still, not obvious, so also to some extent a UI fail

    Yeah, but they reintroduced a new “wtf” with the modulation dots that you drag to a source. Now that they’ve added amount to that little circle, it takes wayyy too much luck, even with a pencil, to get your “cable” instead of adjusting the amount.

  • @oat_phipps said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:
    I'm curious to see how those rings around the knobs will work on iOS. Hopefully the do a better job than FabFilter.

    The rings around knobs for panning in fabfilter apps are far better now than they were a few years ago - you have a lot of leeway, you can touch and drag even outside the ring and it will work fine, in my experience. Still, not obvious, so also to some extent a UI fail

    Yeah, but they reintroduced a new “wtf” with the modulation dots that you drag to a source. Now that they’ve added amount to that little circle, it takes wayyy too much luck, even with a pencil, to get your “cable” instead of adjusting the amount.

    True. FF iOS ports are subpar in UX, no doubt

  • Personally on desktop I think this plugin is probably covered in more depth (and flexibility) by Devious machines' Infiltrator. Pair that with Bitwig and you have a transition monster of a DAW.

  • @rs2000 said:

    @Krupa said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @dendy said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Kind of a cool plugin not gonna lie. However, I can do all this even with stock effects in NS2. (However I'm still going to buy it to support Baby Audio and Andrew Huang, and who knows, maybe it'll click with me.)

    As a big fan og NS and it’s build in FX, this plug is something very different .. i think UI is key here, how you can on one screen set up pretty complex FX chain and dramatically change the sound with just one knob - which is a kind of main point of this plugin.. Andrew explicitly mentioned it - yes you can do same with multiple standalone plugins a plethora of automation curves but this plugins makes whole process drastically simpler ..

    First time i feel pain that i can’t automate AUfx params in NS2 :-( I can see huge use case of this plugon in my music.

    Definitely. I'm trying to extend that by not only providing a "Transition" knob but also an X/Y pad to add live effects on top - it could be a different set of parameters that's active as long as the finger touches the X/Y pad.
    Still thinking about effect routing though...
    Probably a fixed effect routing could work.

    I was thinking about this just now, would it work to have it as several racks that could just be shuffled by the user?

    Hmm. That could work. Alternatively we could have just a few effect racks with presets to choose from a set of effects.

    Quick test seems to work…

  • @Gavinski said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:
    I'm curious to see how those rings around the knobs will work on iOS. Hopefully the do a better job than FabFilter.

    The rings around knobs for panning in fabfilter apps are far better now than they were a few years ago - you have a lot of leeway, you can touch and drag even outside the ring and it will work fine, in my experience. Still, not obvious, so also to some extent a UI fail

    Yeah, but they reintroduced a new “wtf” with the modulation dots that you drag to a source. Now that they’ve added amount to that little circle, it takes wayyy too much luck, even with a pencil, to get your “cable” instead of adjusting the amount.

    True. FF iOS ports are subpar in UX, no doubt

    Is it totally wrong that I forgive them because they’re my favorites and still look really pretty even though they don’t function prettily?

  • edited August 2023

    @HotStrange said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @FastGhost said:

    @rvr said:
    Lol at this guy and his reinvention of turnado for kids

    You didn't watch the video.

    He has a point. But what he fails to mention is Turnado is ugly as fuck and the effects sound really crappy

    Usually multi effect apps aren’t winning any awards for sound quality when it comes to the individual effects. Turnado, and other apps like it, are more for sound mangling which usually doesn’t require pristine quality. I don’t really think they sound crappy though.

    Po-tah-to. Sugarbytes stuff just gave me a skeezy vibe when I used to use them (they’ve been cleansed). They made me feel like a creepazoid making music.

  • @oat_phipps said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @FastGhost said:

    @rvr said:
    Lol at this guy and his reinvention of turnado for kids

    You didn't watch the video.

    He has a point. But what he fails to mention is Turnado is ugly as fuck and the effects sound really crappy

    Usually multi effect apps aren’t winning any awards for sound quality when it comes to the individual effects. Turnado, and other apps like it, are more for sound mangling which usually doesn’t require pristine quality. I don’t really think they sound crappy though.

    Po-tah-to. Sugarbytes stuff just gave me a skeezy vibe when I used to use them (they’ve been cleansed). They made me feel like a creepazoid making music.

    That’s a strange way of describing it lol not sure what you mean by that but I love all the apps I have by them. Which is all but 2.

  • edited August 2023

    @Luxthor said:

    @dendy said:
    On other side, it would be super powerfull to have in Drambo some module to control routing between other modules (something like matrix patchbay with inputs and outputs, and ability to save routings as presets in that module and being able to change routing using some dropdown of knob by recallingnsaved presets.

    You probably need to accept the Drambo track rack paradigm and forget about rerouting. ;)

    obviously, but that’s not issue, i am not big “requesting festures” guy, i mostly accept app as is and use whst is there, not dreaming about what may be there one day, that is road to hell..

  • While this does look interesting, I really wish they’d release taip and smooth operator already lol

  • im not a huge fan of baby audio, but this plugin is great. I have had something similar built in ableton for years now, but the ease of use, presets, etc have sold me on this. Its very intuitive, and yields great results. Ive been using it as a Multi FX randomizer, it sounds really cool on drums. The transition part is great for "edm" builds and transitions, but the Transition sequencer is awesome for adding subtle - extreme movement on pads, synths, etc. HIghly recommend this one.

  • Just gave the desktop demo ago feeding Arturia Acid V demo into Transit and what can I say it’s a match made in heaven. I do hope Transit comes to iOS.

  • I'm gonna climb to the top!..... of Sparkle Mountaaaaain

  • I enjoy multi-effects apps. Besides the multi-effects that come with Logic on desktop, I own and have been using Turnado, Looperator, and the Aberrant DSP apps for background vocals, transitions, and little bits of interest. We make dream pop/rock style music.

    I've owned Tantra and Amalgame but uninstalled because the effects just weren't that great. Sometimes with multi-effects it matters less about the individual ingredients and more about the stew, but those two didn't make the cut. The Aberrant apps are brilliant, the Sugarbytes apps work well and sound good. I find Turnado fun to use, especially on iPad.

    I tried Devious Machines Infiltrator, it was good, but I didn't love it enough to purchase.

    So I had to demo Transit. I really like it. The effects stand up on their own, it's going to get a lot of use for a lot of things. My only complaint is the implementation of the tape stop effect, which sounds awkward in its first triggered moments, but I have other apps for that. The UI is excellent- clean, clear, and intuitive. Congratulations to Andrew Huang and Baby Audio.

    I have some rack gear and quite a few guitar pedals but when using ITB effects, I choose multi-effects apps for the ease of use which leads to experimentation. It's more fun to drag and drop modules than it is to rewire the pedalboard.

  • @dendy said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @dendy said:
    On other side, it would be super powerfull to have in Drambo some module to control routing between other modules (something like matrix patchbay with inputs and outputs, and ability to save routings as presets in that module and being able to change routing using some dropdown of knob by recallingnsaved presets.

    You probably need to accept the Drambo track rack paradigm and forget about rerouting. ;)

    obviously, but that’s not issue, i am not big “requesting festures” guy, i mostly accept app as is and use whst is there, not dreaming about what may be there one day, that is road to hell..

    Agreed. I buy and judge apps based on what’s there. If new features come, cool! If it’s just maintenance updates, that’s fine too.

  • edited August 2023

    Got it on desktop this morning. It’s typical BA quality. All their plugins for me have been very good. Not what I’m used to and that is the magic. I end up working differently with different results. I like every plugin they’ve put out for sure. The contemporary aesthetic of the gui’s put me off when I first discovered these guys but after using, well it’s solid business here. Good stuff and this plugin is no exception.

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