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He's not saying don't buy any new apps ever McD, lol. At the very least, better to buy one at a time and learn it semi well before moving on to another though. And the poster has already mentioned that money is very tight.
I’m glad I ignored this advice and have collected hundreds of apps… most of which I only used for a few minutes and certainly never mastered. But I don’t advise this for anyone else.
😂 😂 😂👍
There’s definitely a middle ground here. I personally love buying a new app and exploring it and working it into my music. But only within reason. I would definitely advise against buying a bunch at once and buying something you absolutely don’t need or really want simply just to have it. That’s when it starts bordering on unhealthy behavior.
Other than that as long as bills are paid and you’re happy, why not? lol
I don’t buy nearly as often now as I’m pretty happy with what I have, but if something cool, fun, unique, or any combo of them comes out. Yeah imma grab it 😂
I’m a middle ground person by nature, but particularly after the last couple of Black Fridays where I went crazy, I have more than enough apps.
I’m better at resisting now (honest!), but in the face of the tidal wave of wonderful stuff that’s come out over the last 18 months it’s been hard work.
I wouldn’t have missed Hilda, Fluss and the AudioThing Hainbach apps for the world, even if I didn’t need them per se. So much creative potential in those apps, and Salome is looking like another one in that bracket (field recording to polyphonic MPE instrument at record speed is seriously useful).
Enjoy buying apps if that keeps you out of trouble. Just make sure you set yourself a budget and stick to it.
Is Trooper an enhanced Magellen2, or does it lean more towards trying to copy Moog?
LOL That's actually what I do! I use Garageband and load up AUs and play each track in real time, then isolate each track and email them to my bandmates who add live guitar and piano and other things ...if Jay (my daughter) and I want to add piano or harpsichord we use Numa or I mic up her keyboard. Plus, she uses the apps as well (her personal favorites are KQ Dixie and BLEASS Omega; my wife's are RippleMaker and Poison 202)
Oh yeah, I learn VERY quick; I generally don't read any manuals but go in blind. The only time I ever got stuck on how to program patches are with IVCS3 (Davypoo's tutorial cured that pretty fast, and I got additional help from my wife, who actually started worked on modular synths around the time we were in college) and to a much lesser extent Synclavier Go. I still use what I have already though...when I say I record a lot of music, I'm generally understating it...I've recorded several thousand songs over the years, and about 95% of that are originals. I don't watch TV (but I do watch YouTube, including a certain YouTuber you may know...Gav something or other
) so I spend a lot of my free time doing this, a vast majority of it. I've been hearing music in my head since I was 11, like constantly, every waking moment
I've kept my budget to $40 a month (about half of what I used to spend on drugs which thankfully is no longer a concern...that money will now be saved so I can buy my daughter a Yamaha Reface DX which she's been wanting for a while now)- this is out of my royalty cut each month (from streaming) so I don't ever dip into bill money!
Drug addiction has ruined a lot of lives and that evidence can be seen all over the streets of most major cities these days. Best of luck for your health going forward. If you again feel tempted, record some music instead and stay well.
OH yeah, let me stress this isn't an all at once thing...this is more of a one or two a month!
I don't own Magellen 2 yet, but I do own the Moogs, and Trooper is def. not copying it...has its own thing. I got it thinking I was gonna be making Moogy type sounds, but everything I did in it came out like this
https://fear2stop.bandcamp.com/track/uno-pimento
I wasn' t intending on making an accordian-ish type sound but that's what I ended up with LMFAO This was the first (and as of yet, ONLY) time where the patch influenced the writing instead of the other way around.
Thank you...will do . Thankfully I've learned I don't need substances to "enhance" my creativity...being in rehab without access to my phone or laptop and STILL being able to write and arrange music in my head 100% sober for the past 5 months has proven that to me
In that case get them all 🤣 (over a few months of course)
I will be!
And while I was typing out a response to you on the BA-1 thread, I realized OPL has to be the next one I get thanks to Family Sharing! Of course, if we have a good Bandcamp Friday I'll get PhaseMonkey as well ^_^
Honestly I consider apps that I know will give me a huge creative boost or inspire me as more in the “need” category lol. That may seem dumb but it makes sense in my head 😂
For me the category of not needing is really dependent on the app itself. For example an IR loader when I already have one, etc. But then I’ll turn around and by a 15th reverb because it does something slightly different. It sounds weird on paper but I’m able to rationalize and spend reasonably so I guess that’s all that matters 🤣
You nailed it...it's why I have several of the same kind of IOS synths, because they each have their own sound and a patch in one sounds completely different in the other.
And yeah, it's down to either OPL or Phasemonkey as my next purchase now for sure.
That’s why I get a bit annoyed when I see people bashing a new synth because “we already have synths on iOS”. I can’t think of 2 on iOS that are exactly the same. Hell even Synthmaster 1 and 2 are different enough to justify both lol
Lemme know how you like them! Both are amazing but OPL is probably in my top 10 on iOS in general. Not sure why but it just scratches a certain itch for me lol
Will do! I'm leaning ever so slightly towards Phase Monkey but it's tricky af...I might flip a coin! And depending on how I do on Bandcamp Friday, I might be able to get both.
I tend to agree with @wim - buy when you see a need (OR Desire). I have way too many apps and it can seriously add up to writer’s block. What has worked for me over the last year or so is to keep a list of apps that might be useful in the future. This is a check on GAS/AAS. However @Fear2Stop sounds like you are spending way more time using apps than I am, so it might be entirely possible to make good use of a huge collection of apps. To each his own and we all have our own unique workflows. Sometimes a different app and sound can inspire something that wouldn’t come from using the same old apps. Not sure why that is, but it is. So get all the apps and let us know which apps we should get next and why. 🤪
Agreed. That’s the way I go now. I have a running list but it’s mostly for if/when there’s an incredible sale or so I don’t forget about them in the future. For the last few months I’ve only bought new apps, and only the ones I feel I must have. I’ve only bought a couple of “older” apps and it was as a need arose, like you said.
I’m working on simplifying my workflow right now. Not gonna delete a bunch of apps or anything (though I did delete a couple dozen or more) but more choosing a handful, going into cubasis 3 and only using those apps for my next project without venturing out to any other host with any other apps. Sometimes you just need inspiration lol
It’s BandCamp Friday… pick up a Fear2Stop track for “name your price”. He has a lot of time on his hands and no income and just a phone to create new music so. If you have the means this would be a good deed.
https://fear2stop.bandcamp.com/album/now-were-playing-with-more-power
You could select just 1 track for $1 and it will add up to some budget to create.
@Fear2Stop I hope you have loaded up on all the free apps that work on the iPhone.
Koala with the IAP might be a good place to get a great iPhone interface and most of the DAW features. I think Koala will also load into GarageBand for even more power to build sampled instruments from the world around you and all the synths Apple gives you.
I’m not sure what your desktop DAW was. Maybe Notes would suit your workflow.
That is the best advice I was given (thank you wim)…and it was echoed by another member I respect as an artist and producer/dRambo master (gravitas) and they are right and haven’t steered me wrong.
Plus, You kind of have almost the best stuff as it is, you can always have more…try working what you got now
Cyber Monday isn’t far away
Thank you kindly!
And yup, def. have all the free stuff
Just got Phase Monkey, SNESynth and Dagger....which ones do you all recommend next between:
MiniBits, LowTone, or OPL? I'm getting BA-1 next month
I'd say TB LowTone after that MiniBit and if you crave for some super cheesy FM sounds then it would be OPL.
BA-01 is your choice, I have it but seldom use it but its randomizer is quite surprising at times.
Yeah, I'm gonna see how Black Friday goes before deciding on BA-01...if it doesn't go on sale I'll grab it then
I need to look up LowTone a bit, as it seems really cool but so do the others LOL
If you have access to a desktop you can 'demo' all the TB products. They are save disabled but are otherwise fully functional.
https://www.toneboosters.com/#anchor_download
Thank you...about to check it out now...