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My worst songs of the 80s

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  • @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Okay, I'll give you credit that yeah, New Kids on the Block and Milli Vanilli are a bit lame, and some of the other songs are rather "just okay", but bro. "Up Where We Belong"? "We Are the World"? You consider those rubbish? You and I are definitely not the same. 😂

    I'll second @reezygle 's sentiment in wondering how old you are. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say either over 70 years old where you were too old for those songs, or more likely under 25 where you think your parents' songs were lame.

    Okay then, have fun listening to Doja Cat, Bad Bunny, Drake and other animal-named artists as well as to all the "Lil's" out there on the current Billboard 100.

    A lot of the “Lil’s” are really good. Lil Peep (RIP) has some classics under his belt. And I can’t lie and say I’m not a Doja or Drake fan either lol both of them have some songs I love.

    When it comes to music I choose not to discriminate or feel “guilty” for listening to anything I like. That’s why I dislike the term “guilty pleasures”. I judge more an a per song/album/artist basis and not on same, genre, style. My playlist on Spotify has like 20,000 and there’s nearly every genre on there form country and bluegrass to experimental harsh noise back to pop and pop punk and everything in between lol

    When I start hating on music is when it feels like a product and there’s no genuine emotion behind it. When an artist makes music solely for money or for the label, it’s soulless and I can’t gel with that.

    Same... I listen to music from most genres (although admittedly I'm not a fan of modern hiphop) from pretty much any era. I have extremely diverse tastes, from Frank Sinatra , Metallica, the Beach Boys , Brian Eno, Billy Joel ,Tom Waits ,Johnny Cash, Depeche Mode, Soccer Mommy, Nobuo Uematasu, Tears for Fears... hell, there are even current pop songs I like!

  • @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Okay, I'll give you credit that yeah, New Kids on the Block and Milli Vanilli are a bit lame, and some of the other songs are rather "just okay", but bro. "Up Where We Belong"? "We Are the World"? You consider those rubbish? You and I are definitely not the same. 😂

    I'll second @reezygle 's sentiment in wondering how old you are. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say either over 70 years old where you were too old for those songs, or more likely under 25 where you think your parents' songs were lame.

    Okay then, have fun listening to Doja Cat, Bad Bunny, Drake and other animal-named artists as well as to all the "Lil's" out there on the current Billboard 100.

    As far as We Are the World, I'm generally not a fan of "all-star" songs, and even as a kid I wasn't a fan of this one lol

    "We Are the World" is probably the best of the "all-star" songs, and holds a special place for me. Listened to that as a child. Now the "all-star" version of "Imagine" from 3 and a half years back during lockdown was trash, at least to me, lol. Talk about butchering the world's greatest hymn. xD

    "Up Where We Belong" would be better IMHO without Joe Cocker

    Joe Cocker's voice is rather divisive I will say. Some people hate it, some people like it. :) The song itself though is great. I even play it on the piano at gigs.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Okay, I'll give you credit that yeah, New Kids on the Block and Milli Vanilli are a bit lame, and some of the other songs are rather "just okay", but bro. "Up Where We Belong"? "We Are the World"? You consider those rubbish? You and I are definitely not the same. 😂

    I'll second @reezygle 's sentiment in wondering how old you are. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say either over 70 years old where you were too old for those songs, or more likely under 25 where you think your parents' songs were lame.

    Okay then, have fun listening to Doja Cat, Bad Bunny, Drake and other animal-named artists as well as to all the "Lil's" out there on the current Billboard 100.

    As far as We Are the World, I'm generally not a fan of "all-star" songs, and even as a kid I wasn't a fan of this one lol

    "We Are the World" is probably the best of the "all-star" songs, and holds a special place for me. Listened to that as a child. Now the "all-star" version of "Imagine" from 3 and a half years back during lockdown was trash, at least to me, lol. Talk about butchering the world's greatest hymn. xD

    "Up Where We Belong" would be better IMHO without Joe Cocker

    Joe Cocker's voice is rather divisive I will say. Some people hate it, some people like it. :) The song itself though is great. I even play it on the piano at gigs.

    I don't mind his voice (I mean, I am a huge fan of Tom Waits lol) but on this song, IMHO it just doesn't work. Also, there is something a bit treacly about a lot of duets in the 80s for me.

    And yeah, I definitely feel you about WAtW being the best of the all-star songs, although I disgree and this "Do They Know It's Christmas" is better...I actually like it LOL. But yeah, it got worse from there, and I agree about the Imagine remake, although "Voices that Care" might be the actual worst of the lot

  • @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Okay, I'll give you credit that yeah, New Kids on the Block and Milli Vanilli are a bit lame, and some of the other songs are rather "just okay", but bro. "Up Where We Belong"? "We Are the World"? You consider those rubbish? You and I are definitely not the same. 😂

    I'll second @reezygle 's sentiment in wondering how old you are. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say either over 70 years old where you were too old for those songs, or more likely under 25 where you think your parents' songs were lame.

    Okay then, have fun listening to Doja Cat, Bad Bunny, Drake and other animal-named artists as well as to all the "Lil's" out there on the current Billboard 100.

    As far as We Are the World, I'm generally not a fan of "all-star" songs, and even as a kid I wasn't a fan of this one lol

    "We Are the World" is probably the best of the "all-star" songs, and holds a special place for me. Listened to that as a child. Now the "all-star" version of "Imagine" from 3 and a half years back during lockdown was trash, at least to me, lol. Talk about butchering the world's greatest hymn. xD

    "Up Where We Belong" would be better IMHO without Joe Cocker

    Joe Cocker's voice is rather divisive I will say. Some people hate it, some people like it. :) The song itself though is great. I even play it on the piano at gigs.

    I don't mind his voice (I mean, I am a huge fan of Tom Waits lol) but on this song, IMHO it just doesn't work. Also, there is something a bit treacly about a lot of duets in the 80s for me.

    And yeah, I definitely feel you about WAtW being the best of the all-star songs, although I disgree and this "Do They Know It's Christmas" is better...I actually like it LOL. But yeah, it got worse from there, and I agree about the Imagine remake, although "Voices that Care" might be the actual worst of the lot

    Oh god, I forgot about "Voices that Care". 🤣 Okay, yeah, I'll take the all-star "Imagine" over that any day. I have...about a month before I listen to "Do They Know It's Christmas", as I don't celebrate the holidays before celebrating Thanksgiving. (No shade on those that do start celebrating the holidays early, lol. Just not my bag, mate.)

    I mostly like how treacly 80s duets are. Kind of sentimental, corny, but in an inoffensive, wholesome kind of way if that makes any sense. :)

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Okay, I'll give you credit that yeah, New Kids on the Block and Milli Vanilli are a bit lame, and some of the other songs are rather "just okay", but bro. "Up Where We Belong"? "We Are the World"? You consider those rubbish? You and I are definitely not the same. 😂

    I'll second @reezygle 's sentiment in wondering how old you are. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say either over 70 years old where you were too old for those songs, or more likely under 25 where you think your parents' songs were lame.

    Okay then, have fun listening to Doja Cat, Bad Bunny, Drake and other animal-named artists as well as to all the "Lil's" out there on the current Billboard 100.

    As far as We Are the World, I'm generally not a fan of "all-star" songs, and even as a kid I wasn't a fan of this one lol

    "We Are the World" is probably the best of the "all-star" songs, and holds a special place for me. Listened to that as a child. Now the "all-star" version of "Imagine" from 3 and a half years back during lockdown was trash, at least to me, lol. Talk about butchering the world's greatest hymn. xD

    "Up Where We Belong" would be better IMHO without Joe Cocker

    Joe Cocker's voice is rather divisive I will say. Some people hate it, some people like it. :) The song itself though is great. I even play it on the piano at gigs.

    I don't mind his voice (I mean, I am a huge fan of Tom Waits lol) but on this song, IMHO it just doesn't work. Also, there is something a bit treacly about a lot of duets in the 80s for me.

    And yeah, I definitely feel you about WAtW being the best of the all-star songs, although I disgree and this "Do They Know It's Christmas" is better...I actually like it LOL. But yeah, it got worse from there, and I agree about the Imagine remake, although "Voices that Care" might be the actual worst of the lot

    Oh god, I forgot about "Voices that Care". 🤣 Okay, yeah, I'll take the all-star "Imagine" over that any day. I have...about a month before I listen to "Do They Know It's Christmas", as I don't celebrate the holidays before celebrating Thanksgiving. (No shade on those that do start celebrating the holidays early, lol. Just not my bag, mate.)

    I mostly like how treacly 80s duets are. Kind of sentimental, corny, but in an inoffensive, wholesome kind of way if that makes any sense. :)

    Oh, most definitely. I mean, I might not have liked them back then, but those duets are nostalgic guilty pleasures for me now...and I'd rather listen to ANY of them compared to Billie Eilish and Dreck, I mean, Drake

  • @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Okay, I'll give you credit that yeah, New Kids on the Block and Milli Vanilli are a bit lame, and some of the other songs are rather "just okay", but bro. "Up Where We Belong"? "We Are the World"? You consider those rubbish? You and I are definitely not the same. 😂

    I'll second @reezygle 's sentiment in wondering how old you are. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say either over 70 years old where you were too old for those songs, or more likely under 25 where you think your parents' songs were lame.

    Okay then, have fun listening to Doja Cat, Bad Bunny, Drake and other animal-named artists as well as to all the "Lil's" out there on the current Billboard 100.

    As far as We Are the World, I'm generally not a fan of "all-star" songs, and even as a kid I wasn't a fan of this one lol

    "We Are the World" is probably the best of the "all-star" songs, and holds a special place for me. Listened to that as a child. Now the "all-star" version of "Imagine" from 3 and a half years back during lockdown was trash, at least to me, lol. Talk about butchering the world's greatest hymn. xD

    "Up Where We Belong" would be better IMHO without Joe Cocker

    Joe Cocker's voice is rather divisive I will say. Some people hate it, some people like it. :) The song itself though is great. I even play it on the piano at gigs.

    I don't mind his voice (I mean, I am a huge fan of Tom Waits lol) but on this song, IMHO it just doesn't work. Also, there is something a bit treacly about a lot of duets in the 80s for me.

    And yeah, I definitely feel you about WAtW being the best of the all-star songs, although I disgree and this "Do They Know It's Christmas" is better...I actually like it LOL. But yeah, it got worse from there, and I agree about the Imagine remake, although "Voices that Care" might be the actual worst of the lot

    Oh god, I forgot about "Voices that Care". 🤣 Okay, yeah, I'll take the all-star "Imagine" over that any day. I have...about a month before I listen to "Do They Know It's Christmas", as I don't celebrate the holidays before celebrating Thanksgiving. (No shade on those that do start celebrating the holidays early, lol. Just not my bag, mate.)

    I mostly like how treacly 80s duets are. Kind of sentimental, corny, but in an inoffensive, wholesome kind of way if that makes any sense. :)

    Oh, most definitely. I mean, I might not have liked them back then, but those duets are nostalgic guilty pleasures for me now...and I'd rather listen to ANY of them compared to Billie Eilish and Dreck, I mean, Drake

    Hahahaha! Same here mate. :) I think the only top modern pop stars are Taylor Swift (whose voice has noticeably matured from the original recordings to the "Taylor's Versions"), and Lady Gaga (whose voice is just phenomenal). ESPECIALLY Lady Gaga!

    This still gives me goosebumps. 😨

  • What really bugged me was seeing so many of my favorite 70's rockers and prog rockers "selling out" (no offense - my own personal term only). Looking back it seems virtually all of them started the downhill slide to 80's cheese earlier than I thought. By 1975 - 1977.

    Yes, Doobie Brothers, Frampton, ELP, Starship/Airplane, Chicago, BTO, Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Joe Walsh, Fleetwood Mac, Eric Clapton, The Who / Pete Townshend ...

    Ironically, I didn't start to know a lot of these bands until they were already close to turning the corner into stuff I was no longer into.

    Blues guys generally stick with it tho. 😎

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Okay, I'll give you credit that yeah, New Kids on the Block and Milli Vanilli are a bit lame, and some of the other songs are rather "just okay", but bro. "Up Where We Belong"? "We Are the World"? You consider those rubbish? You and I are definitely not the same. 😂

    I'll second @reezygle 's sentiment in wondering how old you are. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say either over 70 years old where you were too old for those songs, or more likely under 25 where you think your parents' songs were lame.

    Okay then, have fun listening to Doja Cat, Bad Bunny, Drake and other animal-named artists as well as to all the "Lil's" out there on the current Billboard 100.

    As far as We Are the World, I'm generally not a fan of "all-star" songs, and even as a kid I wasn't a fan of this one lol

    "We Are the World" is probably the best of the "all-star" songs, and holds a special place for me. Listened to that as a child. Now the "all-star" version of "Imagine" from 3 and a half years back during lockdown was trash, at least to me, lol. Talk about butchering the world's greatest hymn. xD

    "Up Where We Belong" would be better IMHO without Joe Cocker

    Joe Cocker's voice is rather divisive I will say. Some people hate it, some people like it. :) The song itself though is great. I even play it on the piano at gigs.

    I don't mind his voice (I mean, I am a huge fan of Tom Waits lol) but on this song, IMHO it just doesn't work. Also, there is something a bit treacly about a lot of duets in the 80s for me.

    And yeah, I definitely feel you about WAtW being the best of the all-star songs, although I disgree and this "Do They Know It's Christmas" is better...I actually like it LOL. But yeah, it got worse from there, and I agree about the Imagine remake, although "Voices that Care" might be the actual worst of the lot

    Oh god, I forgot about "Voices that Care". 🤣 Okay, yeah, I'll take the all-star "Imagine" over that any day. I have...about a month before I listen to "Do They Know It's Christmas", as I don't celebrate the holidays before celebrating Thanksgiving. (No shade on those that do start celebrating the holidays early, lol. Just not my bag, mate.)

    I mostly like how treacly 80s duets are. Kind of sentimental, corny, but in an inoffensive, wholesome kind of way if that makes any sense. :)

    Oh, most definitely. I mean, I might not have liked them back then, but those duets are nostalgic guilty pleasures for me now...and I'd rather listen to ANY of them compared to Billie Eilish and Dreck, I mean, Drake

    Hahahaha! Same here mate. :) I think the only top modern pop stars are Taylor Swift (whose voice has noticeably matured from the original recordings to the "Taylor's Versions"), and Lady Gaga (whose voice is just phenomenal). ESPECIALLY Lady Gaga!

    This still gives me goosebumps. 😨

    Yeah, she's phenomenal

    As mentioned previously, I actually like a lot of modern pop, but I really cannot STAND Billie Eilish. Her first few songs were alright, but she regressed massively the more popular she got. And the level of critical acclaim she gets mystifies me.

    As much as I dislike her music, though, my daughter feels WAY more strongly than I do lol

  • @wim said:
    What really bugged me was seeing so many of my favorite 70's rockers and prog rockers "selling out" (no offense - my own personal term only). Looking back it seems virtually all of them started the downhill slide to 80's cheese earlier than I thought. By 1975 - 1977.

    Yes, Doobie Brothers, Frampton, ELP, Starship/Airplane, Chicago, BTO, Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Joe Walsh, Fleetwood Mac, Eric Clapton, The Who / Pete Townshend ...

    Ironically, I didn't start to know a lot of these bands until they were already close to turning the corner into stuff I was no longer into.

    Blues guys generally stick with it tho. 😎

    I...actually REALLY liked Fleetwood Mac up until about 1990; until then, the only period of theirs I didn't care for was actually the Peter Green era!

    As far as Clapton goes...I'm going to admit something that may get me some backlash, but the only time I ever liked Clapton was in Cream! Out of ex-Yardbirds, I personally thought the late Jeff Beck was by far the best (another huge influence on me)

    YMMV, though

  • @wim said:
    What really bugged me was seeing so many of my favorite 70's rockers and prog rockers "selling out" (no offense - my own personal term only). Looking back it seems virtually all of them started the downhill slide to 80's cheese earlier than I thought. By 1975 - 1977.

    Yes, Doobie Brothers, Frampton, ELP, Starship/Airplane, Chicago, BTO, Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Joe Walsh, Fleetwood Mac, Eric Clapton, The Who / Pete Townshend ...

    In the car I generally listen to streamed music, and for most bands start with their earliest album and play through in order. Most of those you listed I find have an album I will stop at due to a significant change in the music.

  • wimwim
    edited October 2023

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @wim said:
    What really bugged me was seeing so many of my favorite 70's rockers and prog rockers "selling out" (no offense - my own personal term only). Looking back it seems virtually all of them started the downhill slide to 80's cheese earlier than I thought. By 1975 - 1977.

    Yes, Doobie Brothers, Frampton, ELP, Starship/Airplane, Chicago, BTO, Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Joe Walsh, Fleetwood Mac, Eric Clapton, The Who / Pete Townshend ...

    Ironically, I didn't start to know a lot of these bands until they were already close to turning the corner into stuff I was no longer into.

    Blues guys generally stick with it tho. 😎

    I...actually REALLY liked Fleetwood Mac up until about 1990; until then, the only period of theirs I didn't care for was actually the Peter Green era!

    As far as Clapton goes...I'm going to admit something that may get me some backlash, but the only time I ever liked Clapton was in Cream! Out of ex-Yardbirds, I personally thought the late Jeff Beck was by far the best (another huge influence on me)

    Yeh, not much of a Clapton fan either. Just even less so after the time period I mentioned.

    Jeff Beck was always just plain stellar. Guitar Shop, while an OK album, feels to me like where he started to lose his way creating new stuff. But as a performer he just continued to grow from perfection to more perfection.

    I wish I could list him as an influence, but his work is so far beyond me that it I can't say a note I've ever played even touches it.

    Santana deserves mention. I feel like he's the only one who has managed to integrate 80s and beyond influence in a palatable way without losing himself in the process. He manages to adopt current trends in terrific ways while maintaining his unique character and edge. I can't say how much I love just about everything he has ever done.

  • @wim said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @wim said:
    What really bugged me was seeing so many of my favorite 70's rockers and prog rockers "selling out" (no offense - my own personal term only). Looking back it seems virtually all of them started the downhill slide to 80's cheese earlier than I thought. By 1975 - 1977.

    Yes, Doobie Brothers, Frampton, ELP, Starship/Airplane, Chicago, BTO, Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Joe Walsh, Fleetwood Mac, Eric Clapton, The Who / Pete Townshend ...

    Ironically, I didn't start to know a lot of these bands until they were already close to turning the corner into stuff I was no longer into.

    Blues guys generally stick with it tho. 😎

    I...actually REALLY liked Fleetwood Mac up until about 1990; until then, the only period of theirs I didn't care for was actually the Peter Green era!

    As far as Clapton goes...I'm going to admit something that may get me some backlash, but the only time I ever liked Clapton was in Cream! Out of ex-Yardbirds, I personally thought the late Jeff Beck was by far the best (another huge influence on me)

    Yeh, not a huge Clapton fan either. Just even less so after the time period I mentioned.

    Jeff Beck was always just plain stellar. Guitar Shop, while an OK album, feels to me like where he started to lose his way creating new stuff. But as a performer he just continued to grow from perfection to more perfection.

    I never got that “Clapton is God” thing at all. He’s made a career of recycling licks from all the blues pioneers who came before him. Very little of his output is innovative.

    Beck was way better in every way, and the transformation of the Yardbirds speaks volumes about the influence of each of their first two guitarists.

  • @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Okay, I'll give you credit that yeah, New Kids on the Block and Milli Vanilli are a bit lame, and some of the other songs are rather "just okay", but bro. "Up Where We Belong"? "We Are the World"? You consider those rubbish? You and I are definitely not the same. 😂

    I'll second @reezygle 's sentiment in wondering how old you are. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say either over 70 years old where you were too old for those songs, or more likely under 25 where you think your parents' songs were lame.

    Okay then, have fun listening to Doja Cat, Bad Bunny, Drake and other animal-named artists as well as to all the "Lil's" out there on the current Billboard 100.

    As far as We Are the World, I'm generally not a fan of "all-star" songs, and even as a kid I wasn't a fan of this one lol

    "We Are the World" is probably the best of the "all-star" songs, and holds a special place for me. Listened to that as a child. Now the "all-star" version of "Imagine" from 3 and a half years back during lockdown was trash, at least to me, lol. Talk about butchering the world's greatest hymn. xD

    "Up Where We Belong" would be better IMHO without Joe Cocker

    Joe Cocker's voice is rather divisive I will say. Some people hate it, some people like it. :) The song itself though is great. I even play it on the piano at gigs.

    I don't mind his voice (I mean, I am a huge fan of Tom Waits lol) but on this song, IMHO it just doesn't work. Also, there is something a bit treacly about a lot of duets in the 80s for me.

    And yeah, I definitely feel you about WAtW being the best of the all-star songs, although I disgree and this "Do They Know It's Christmas" is better...I actually like it LOL. But yeah, it got worse from there, and I agree about the Imagine remake, although "Voices that Care" might be the actual worst of the lot

    Oh god, I forgot about "Voices that Care". 🤣 Okay, yeah, I'll take the all-star "Imagine" over that any day. I have...about a month before I listen to "Do They Know It's Christmas", as I don't celebrate the holidays before celebrating Thanksgiving. (No shade on those that do start celebrating the holidays early, lol. Just not my bag, mate.)

    I mostly like how treacly 80s duets are. Kind of sentimental, corny, but in an inoffensive, wholesome kind of way if that makes any sense. :)

    Oh, most definitely. I mean, I might not have liked them back then, but those duets are nostalgic guilty pleasures for me now...and I'd rather listen to ANY of them compared to Billie Eilish and Dreck, I mean, Drake

    Hahahaha! Same here mate. :) I think the only top modern pop stars are Taylor Swift (whose voice has noticeably matured from the original recordings to the "Taylor's Versions"), and Lady Gaga (whose voice is just phenomenal). ESPECIALLY Lady Gaga!

    This still gives me goosebumps. 😨

    Yeah, she's phenomenal

    As mentioned previously, I actually like a lot of modern pop, but I really cannot STAND Billie Eilish. Her first few songs were alright, but she regressed massively the more popular she got. And the level of critical acclaim she gets mystifies me.

    As much as I dislike her music, though, my daughter feels WAY more strongly than I do lol

    LOL! Yeah, Billie Eilish is overrated. Lady Gaga currently holds the crown as Queen of Pop in my opinion. <3 If not the greatest voice in the current era of music, within Pop and outside of Pop to be quite honest. A lot of her Pop music did make heavy use of autotune, but honestly she doesn't need that.

    And Lady Gaga's music has been known to make me tear up on occasion. For instance...

    ...this song reminds me so much of my late mother who passed almost 5 years ago on 4 November. And just the emotion in Stefani's voice, good lord!

  • @jwmmakerofmusic Yeah, Lady Gaga is one of the more original and interesting artists around now. Certainly one of the best from among really popular artists.

    There are always people saying “older music is better” or some variation of that, but good music is never far away at any time if you’re willing to open your ears.

  • @michael_m said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic Yeah, Lady Gaga is one of the more original and interesting artists around now. Certainly one of the best from among really popular artists.

    There are always people saying “older music is better” or some variation of that, but good music is never far away at any time if you’re willing to open your ears.

    Exactly! Look at SoundCloud and Bandcamp. So much excellent recently released music on those platforms. :) As far as Pop goes, yeah Lady Gaga is incredible.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @michael_m said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic Yeah, Lady Gaga is one of the more original and interesting artists around now. Certainly one of the best from among really popular artists.

    There are always people saying “older music is better” or some variation of that, but good music is never far away at any time if you’re willing to open your ears.

    Exactly! Look at SoundCloud and Bandcamp. So much excellent recently released music on those platforms. :) As far as Pop goes, yeah Lady Gaga is incredible.

    Definitely agreed. I listen to stuff on Bandcamp more than any other source; as mentioned previously, I have a diverse range of music tastes, but my preferred stuff to listen to are indie pop rock acts like Beach Bunny, Soccer Mommy, Mac DeMarco, ect. thanks to exposure from my daughter Jaymie. She's also big on the 80s as much as I am (and she actually likes a few of the songs on my list LMFAO )

    I want to listen to more stuff here but most of the stuff on this site are posted to sites that are blocked at the rehab I'm att (no YouTube or Soundcloud for me, sadly, while I'm here :( ) Thank God I can access Bandcamp

  • edited October 2023

    @ALB said:
    I hated "We Are The World" but so many people have torn it down that I don't feel it worth commenting.

    It's all low-hanging fruit, but along with the above, my #1 hated is "We Built This City". It masks itself as "rock" song by being about "rock n' roll" without having any kind of rock sensibility (which was pretty broad at the time). While a rock sensibility is not superior to a show tune sensibility, it makes the sentiments expressed incredibly cloying and insincere. I don't like it much as a show tune either, but I have less background in this form. And it's not especially clear which city it's about (San Francisco, LA?). I think Grace Slick trades lead vocals which is just incredibly sad - the last notable remnant of Jefferson Airplane (then Jefferson Starship, then Starship), relegated as a quasi bit player (Hey look everyone - we got Grace Slick to lend this song some cred!) in this Mickey Thomas-led gold lame poop-storm.

    We Built this City is written by Martin Page, with Bernie Taupin’s lyrics. His demo has a much different feel, not trying to have a rock attitude. But, I happen to like the song. It is what it is, corny lyrics and all. The production on it is very tight. I bet if this was sung by anyone other than starship, because of the attachment historically to Jefferson Airplane, it wouldn’t be derided the way it is.

    This song, and These Dreams, have allowed Martin Page to do whatever the heck he wants with his life, not a bad place to be if you ask me. I love his writing. King of Wishful Thinking is another one I love, and I really really love his second solo album “In the Temple of the Muse.”
    As for “We are the World,” whether you like the song or not, it was intended to raise money to fight hunger, and it did (without getting into discussions about politics and such). It was also quite an achievement that Quincey Jones was able to wrangle all of those egos and not have one issue in the studio (he laid the law down right away to check their ego at the door).

    The 2 Steve Winwood albums won Tom Lord-Alge some Grammys and led to the evolution of the “mix engineer” as a specialty.

    I’m not saying you have to like the songs (that’s up to you), but they all had an effect. I wish I could write a “worst #1 hit” someday.

    Anyway, just wanted to add those things.

    I would be ok if I never heard New Kids on the Block again though…

  • if there's a rehab center for GAS and appaholism I sure hope this site is blocked there.

  • @mrufino1 said:

    @ALB said:
    I hated "We Are The World" but so many people have torn it down that I don't feel it worth commenting.

    It's all low-hanging fruit, but along with the above, my #1 hated is "We Built This City". It masks itself as "rock" song by being about "rock n' roll" without having any kind of rock sensibility (which was pretty broad at the time). While a rock sensibility is not superior to a show tune sensibility, it makes the sentiments expressed incredibly cloying and insincere. I don't like it much as a show tune either, but I have less background in this form. And it's not especially clear which city it's about (San Francisco, LA?). I think Grace Slick trades lead vocals which is just incredibly sad - the last notable remnant of Jefferson Airplane (then Jefferson Starship, then Starship), relegated as a quasi bit player (Hey look everyone - we got Grace Slick to lend this song some cred!) in this Mickey Thomas-led gold lame poop-storm.

    Nope, written by Martin Page, with Bernie Taupin’s lyrics. His demo has a much different feel, not trying to have a rock attitude. But, I happen to like the song. It is what it is, corny lyrics and all. The production on it is very tight. I bet if this was sung by anyone other than starship it wouldn’t be derided the way it is.

    This song, and These Dreams, have allowed Martin Page to do whatever the heck he wants with his life, not a bad place to be if you ask me. I love his writing. King of Wishful Thinking is another one I love, and I really really love his second solo album “In the Temple of the Muse.”
    As for “We are the World,” whether you like the song or not, it was intended to raise money to fight hunger, and it did (without getting into discussions about politics and such). It was also quite an achievement that Quincey Jones was able to wrangle all of those egos and not have one issue in the studio (he laid the law down right away to check their ego at the door).

    The 2 Steve Winwood albums won Tom Lord-Alge some Grammys and led to the evolution of the “mix engineer” as a specialty.

    I’m not saying you have to like the songs (that’s up to you), but they all had an effect. I wish I could write a “worst #1 hit” someday.

    Anyway, just wanted to add those things.

    I would be ok if I never heard New Kids on the Block again though…

    I actually liked Martin Page's album he put out in the mid 90s... I do have a soft spot for mid-90s AC pretty big.

  • @wim said:
    if there's a rehab center for GAS and appaholism I sure hope this site is blocked there.

    LOL I think music is my true addiction

  • @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @michael_m said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic Yeah, Lady Gaga is one of the more original and interesting artists around now. Certainly one of the best from among really popular artists.

    There are always people saying “older music is better” or some variation of that, but good music is never far away at any time if you’re willing to open your ears.

    Exactly! Look at SoundCloud and Bandcamp. So much excellent recently released music on those platforms. :) As far as Pop goes, yeah Lady Gaga is incredible.

    Definitely agreed. I listen to stuff on Bandcamp more than any other source; as mentioned previously, I have a diverse range of music tastes, but my preferred stuff to listen to are indie pop rock acts like Beach Bunny, Soccer Mommy, Mac DeMarco, ect. thanks to exposure from my daughter Jaymie. She's also big on the 80s as much as I am (and she actually likes a few of the songs on my list LMFAO )

    I want to listen to more stuff here but most of the stuff on this site are posted to sites that are blocked at the rehab I'm att (no YouTube or Soundcloud for me, sadly, while I'm here :( ) Thank God I can access Bandcamp

    Rehab blocks SoundCloud?! Don't they understand that music is healing to the soul? Are they daft or something mate? Blocking something like OnlyFans and Youtube, that's rather understandable, but blocking SoundCloud? That rehab facility is bollocks. Surely they haven't blocked Dropbox? I could simply send you my latest EP if you wish to have a listen.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @michael_m said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic Yeah, Lady Gaga is one of the more original and interesting artists around now. Certainly one of the best from among really popular artists.

    There are always people saying “older music is better” or some variation of that, but good music is never far away at any time if you’re willing to open your ears.

    Exactly! Look at SoundCloud and Bandcamp. So much excellent recently released music on those platforms. :) As far as Pop goes, yeah Lady Gaga is incredible.

    Definitely agreed. I listen to stuff on Bandcamp more than any other source; as mentioned previously, I have a diverse range of music tastes, but my preferred stuff to listen to are indie pop rock acts like Beach Bunny, Soccer Mommy, Mac DeMarco, ect. thanks to exposure from my daughter Jaymie. She's also big on the 80s as much as I am (and she actually likes a few of the songs on my list LMFAO )

    I want to listen to more stuff here but most of the stuff on this site are posted to sites that are blocked at the rehab I'm att (no YouTube or Soundcloud for me, sadly, while I'm here :( ) Thank God I can access Bandcamp

    Rehab blocks SoundCloud?! Don't they understand that music is healing to the soul? Are they daft or something mate? Blocking something like OnlyFans and Youtube, that's rather understandable, but blocking SoundCloud? That rehab facility is bollocks. Surely they haven't blocked Dropbox? I could simply send you my latest EP if you wish to have a listen.

    It's at the Salvation Army ARC and a lot of it has to do with religion. I was amazed and pleasantly so when I discovered I could access this site

    I do get my phone back this week so I'll be able to check it out when I do!

  • @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @michael_m said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic Yeah, Lady Gaga is one of the more original and interesting artists around now. Certainly one of the best from among really popular artists.

    There are always people saying “older music is better” or some variation of that, but good music is never far away at any time if you’re willing to open your ears.

    Exactly! Look at SoundCloud and Bandcamp. So much excellent recently released music on those platforms. :) As far as Pop goes, yeah Lady Gaga is incredible.

    Definitely agreed. I listen to stuff on Bandcamp more than any other source; as mentioned previously, I have a diverse range of music tastes, but my preferred stuff to listen to are indie pop rock acts like Beach Bunny, Soccer Mommy, Mac DeMarco, ect. thanks to exposure from my daughter Jaymie. She's also big on the 80s as much as I am (and she actually likes a few of the songs on my list LMFAO )

    I want to listen to more stuff here but most of the stuff on this site are posted to sites that are blocked at the rehab I'm att (no YouTube or Soundcloud for me, sadly, while I'm here :( ) Thank God I can access Bandcamp

    Rehab blocks SoundCloud?! Don't they understand that music is healing to the soul? Are they daft or something mate? Blocking something like OnlyFans and Youtube, that's rather understandable, but blocking SoundCloud? That rehab facility is bollocks. Surely they haven't blocked Dropbox? I could simply send you my latest EP if you wish to have a listen.

    It's at the Salvation Army ARC and a lot of it has to do with religion. I was amazed and pleasantly so when I discovered I could access this site

    I do get my phone back this week so I'll be able to check it out when I do!

    Okay that's good mate. :)

  • @mrufino1 said:

    @ALB said:
    I hated "We Are The World" but so many people have torn it down that I don't feel it worth commenting.

    It's all low-hanging fruit, but along with the above, my #1 hated is "We Built This City". It masks itself as "rock" song by being about "rock n' roll" without having any kind of rock sensibility (which was pretty broad at the time). While a rock sensibility is not superior to a show tune sensibility, it makes the sentiments expressed incredibly cloying and insincere. I don't like it much as a show tune either, but I have less background in this form. And it's not especially clear which city it's about (San Francisco, LA?). I think Grace Slick trades lead vocals which is just incredibly sad - the last notable remnant of Jefferson Airplane (then Jefferson Starship, then Starship), relegated as a quasi bit player (Hey look everyone - we got Grace Slick to lend this song some cred!) in this Mickey Thomas-led gold lame poop-storm.

    We Built this City is written by Martin Page, with Bernie Taupin’s lyrics. His demo has a much different feel, not trying to have a rock attitude. But, I happen to like the song. It is what it is, corny lyrics and all. The production on it is very tight. I bet if this was sung by anyone other than starship, because of the attachment historically to Jefferson Airplane, it wouldn’t be derided the way it is.

    This song, and These Dreams, have allowed Martin Page to do whatever the heck he wants with his life, not a bad place to be if you ask me. I love his writing. King of Wishful Thinking is another one I love, and I really really love his second solo album “In the Temple of the Muse.”
    As for “We are the World,” whether you like the song or not, it was intended to raise money to fight hunger, and it did (without getting into discussions about politics and such). It was also quite an achievement that Quincey Jones was able to wrangle all of those egos and not have one issue in the studio (he laid the law down right away to check their ego at the door).

    The 2 Steve Winwood albums won Tom Lord-Alge some Grammys and led to the evolution of the “mix engineer” as a specialty.

    I’m not saying you have to like the songs (that’s up to you), but they all had an effect. I wish I could write a “worst #1 hit” someday.

    Anyway, just wanted to add those things.

    I would be ok if I never heard New Kids on the Block again though…

    Um, fair enough, I guess. Starship had a huge hit with “We Built This City” - that’s the truth, irrespective of who wrote it (which I knew), so I’m not sure what your point is. Glad that Martin Page can wipe his ass with Benjamins as a result of writing this and other pap claptrap. Is this another version of the “If you’re so smart, why ain’t you rich?” argument? I’m really trying to understand your point. You go on to say, “…they all had an effect.” Um, yes, you’re right, and so does everything else - good, bad, and ugly, popular and obscure. I looked into the critical reception of “We Built This City” and it’s interesting - it ends up on a lot of “worst songs of the 80’s” lists.’ As does “We Are the World.” This doesn’t mean that they are objectively bad, but it does mean that one of the “effects” that these songs had was to inspire dislike, hostility and revulsion. Yes, WATW did indeed raise a great deal of money for humanitarian causes. But even the people who sang on it largely thought it was rubbish. So maybe the point is “Bad Art=Good Moneymaker”? Seems reductive, but that’s the best that I can get from your post.

  • @ALB said:
    Glad that Martin Page can wipe his ass with Benjamins as a result of writing this

    I would imagine the songwriting involved a similar action, only with sheet music.

  • wimwim
    edited October 2023

    Awwww .... I think you're taking this all a bit too seriously @ALB 😂
    I think it's clear this is a big, big, tongue in cheek, IMHO thread.

    Unless I'm taking you way too seriously of course. 😉

  • edited October 2023

    We Built This City is all kinds of awesome. So much DX7!

  • wimwim
    edited October 2023

    😂😂😂😂😂😂
    omg. I just forced myself through the full 4:58 official video to see if maybe I was just missing something.
    nope. I can't unsee that cheesy video now either.
    😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • Any list of worst songs of the 80s which does not include Bonnie Tyler's Total Eclipse of the Heart is just wrong. That song sucks.

  • @kidslow said:
    Any list of worst songs of the 80s which does not include Bonnie Tyler's Total Eclipse of the Heart is just wrong. That song sucks.

    Shadows of The Night could be worse.

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