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OUT NOW From Bleass - Bleass Arpeggiator

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  • This is a top app of the year with Hilda and Noinputmixer

  • Would be interested to know how this compares to Cream Mobile by Kirnu?

  • @Robin2 said:
    Would be interested to know how this compares to Cream Mobile by Kirnu?

    Have not tried Cream, but a quick look at both UIs suggests the workflows are totally different. Cream has that pattern editor that Bleass Arp doesn’t. Cream doesn’t seem to be MPE. Etc etc. Cream is not AUv3, that’s a very important difference for most ppl in itself.

  • Took the demo I uploaded earlier and made a quick tutorial video out of it. I'm recreating a common technique in Bitwig for generating melodies. The video is extremely raw with little planning, but let me know if you like it. I'm considering making more (but with a little more planning and more concise).

  • @jerps said:
    Took the demo I uploaded earlier and made a quick tutorial video out of it. I'm recreating a common technique in Bitwig for generating melodies. The video is extremely raw with little planning, but let me know if you like it. I'm considering making more (but with a little more planning and more concise).

    Thanks.. Pretty nice.. Motion ..

    Maybe we need to start a preset thread..

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Would be interested to know how this compares to Cream Mobile by Kirnu?

    Have not tried Cream, but a quick look at both UIs suggests the workflows are totally different. Cream has that pattern editor that Bleass Arp doesn’t. Cream doesn’t seem to be MPE. Etc etc. Cream is not AUv3, that’s a very important difference for most ppl in itself.

    Yes, i can certainly see how AUv3 compatibility adds great convenience and additional functionality (automation of parameters) even though, debatably, all that is really needed is MIDI out for an arpeggiator.

    Is Bleass Arpeggiator easy to use? If you have an idea for a repeating melodic line, is it easy to dial in?

  • @RajahP said:

    Maybe we need to start a preset thread..

    Great idea! Here’s mine from the video

  • @jerps said:

    @RajahP said:

    Maybe we need to start a preset thread..

    Great idea! Here’s mine from the video

    Thanks..

  • @Robin2
    Is Bleass Arpeggiator easy to use? If you have an idea for a repeating melodic line, is it easy to dial in?

    “Super easy, barely an inconvenience”. I think so… you can modulate pitch with the motion sequencer, but I don’t think you can quantize to semitones. I’ll try it and see.

  • @jerps said:

    @Robin2
    Is Bleass Arpeggiator easy to use? If you have an idea for a repeating melodic line, is it easy to dial in?

    “Super easy, barely an inconvenience”. I think so… you can modulate pitch with the motion sequencer, but I don’t think you can quantize to semitones. I’ll try it and see.

    Nope, I was wrong. Can’t modulate pitch.

  • @jerps said:

    @jerps said:

    @Robin2
    Is Bleass Arpeggiator easy to use? If you have an idea for a repeating melodic line, is it easy to dial in?

    “Super easy, barely an inconvenience”. I think so… you can modulate pitch with the motion sequencer, but I don’t think you can quantize to semitones. I’ll try it and see.

    Nope, I was wrong. Can’t modulate pitch.

    Thanks, interesting to know that.

  • Has anybody used this as a Midi AU inside Drambo yet?

    If so, is the REC button present?

    Any problems such as frequent stuck notes or even missed notes that don’t get triggered?

    Thanks you for the video @thesoundtestroom , I listened without watching while working, yet I still feel like I know the app now. You are awesome at what you do.

  • Just bought Bleass Arpeggiator, now time for a couple hours excitement before bed!

  • @jerps said:
    Took the demo I uploaded earlier and made a quick tutorial video out of it. I'm recreating a common technique in Bitwig for generating melodies. The video is extremely raw with little planning, but let me know if you like it. I'm considering making more (but with a little more planning and more concise).

    great video! thank you

  • reducing the chance parameters and the tempo … instant gratification.

  • edited December 2023

    excellent piece of software, got it both on iPad & desktop.
    now i wonder how it compares to dated & poorly supported, but anyway cool Kirnu Cream.

  • edited December 2023

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Has anybody used this as a Midi AU inside Drambo yet?

    If so, is the REC button present?

    Yes!

    Any problems such as frequent stuck notes or even missed notes that don’t get triggered?

    There are definitely issues. For instance, I record a chord in Drambo’s sequencer and when I release it, the arpeggiator keeps playing and won’t stop. This happens when you make a manipulation, like removing a module while holding keys and the arpeggiator doesn’t receive the note release(s). So it isn’t exactly Bleass’ fault.

  • . > @jsmonzani said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Has anybody used this as a Midi AU inside Drambo yet?

    If so, is the REC button present?

    Yes!

    Any problems such as frequent stuck notes or even missed notes that don’t get triggered?

    There are definitely issues. For instance, I record a chord in Drambo’s sequencer and when I release it, the arpeggiator keeps playing and won’t stop. This happens when you make a manipulation, like removing a module while holding keys and the arpeggiator doesn’t receive the note release(s). So it isn’t exactly Bleass’ fault.

    Isn't there a Mozaic script that helps with that, forget what it does exactly, but rings a bell, @wim or others would know

  • One thing that might cause problems for ppl btw is if they use mpe keyboards with this but forget to turn mpe on in Arpeggiator. That also will quickly lead to a ton of stuck notes, but is basically user error rather than a problem with the apps involved

  • @Gavinski said:
    One thing that might cause problems for ppl btw is if they use mpe keyboards with this but forget to turn mpe on in Arpeggiator. That also will quickly lead to a ton of stuck notes, but is basically user error rather than a problem with the apps involved

    How is BleassArp standing compared to StepPolyArp and Mela4? My instabuy syndrome is on hold until next year. ;) So I forced myself to justify every purchase.

    This MPE feature looks stellar to me, I need to find some good examples.

  • Man this is great. Lots of potential to get experimental when you start messing with the play modes and patterns + motion sequencer at high speeds (or very low speeds). The built in FM synth is a nice addition too.

  • @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:
    One thing that might cause problems for ppl btw is if they use mpe keyboards with this but forget to turn mpe on in Arpeggiator. That also will quickly lead to a ton of stuck notes, but is basically user error rather than a problem with the apps involved

    How is BleassArp standing compared to StepPolyArp and Mela4? My instabuy syndrome is on hold until next year. ;) So I forced myself to justify every purchase.

    This MPE feature looks stellar to me, I need to find some good examples.

    App is still pretty fresh so it’s hard for me to say but I see it filling a slightly different role for me. It can go veeery fast and it’s very programmable. Mixing those things with motion sequences and LFOs can make things get real weird. And you get an FM synth with it too lol

  • edited December 2023

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:
    One thing that might cause problems for ppl btw is if they use mpe keyboards with this but forget to turn mpe on in Arpeggiator. That also will quickly lead to a ton of stuck notes, but is basically user error rather than a problem with the apps involved

    How is BleassArp standing compared to StepPolyArp and Mela4? My instabuy syndrome is on hold until next year. ;) So I forced myself to justify every purchase.

    This MPE feature looks stellar to me, I need to find some good examples.

    Im currently testing the BLEASS demo on desktop and getting a feel for it. It definitely brings something new into the arpverse and it’s quite different from StepPolyArp (SPA)

    So far BLEASS brings a load of new options, and the modulation possibilities are second to none, so it definitely has something unique to offer. Some of the play modes are very useful e.g. Thumb and Pinky. The FM synth is a bit of a gimmick perhaps as most users will want to route it to something more useful.

    If you want more control over notes and steps, SPA is definitely the stronger choice - it has more of a step sequencer approach, whereas BLEASS will probably surprise you more, at the cost of less control. For example, for a bassljne with a bit if variation every 8th note, SPA definitely the winner,

    So far, for all the variation, I’m getting a lot of results that end up being a bit the same in terms of overall effect e.g. the Pattern section generates a lot of similar sounding results, so need to play with params more I think. Not sure i’m seen a manual yet, which would help.

    So it’s definitely different from SPA and worth looking into.

  • I'm getting a lot of "bad signal" errors with every synth I feed the midi fx with in AUM. Also the midi fx crashed 3 times in 10 minutes since buyin it. Anyone else had this problem? I am on m2 ipad pro 16gb ram

  • @Butterfrog said:
    I'm getting a lot of "bad signal" errors with every synth I feed the midi fx with in AUM. Also the midi fx crashed 3 times in 10 minutes since buyin it. Anyone else had this problem? I am on m2 ipad pro 16gb ram

    I didn't get any probs, even when sending lots of midi notes very fast. Didn't have any crashes of anything. I haven't tried it with many synths tho. Which synths crashed?

  • Ba-1, lofi tape and tomofon where the only ones I tried. All the crashes and bad signal errors in the first few minutes made me not try any further.

  • @Butterfrog said:
    Ba-1, lofi tape and tomofon where the only ones I tried. All the crashes and bad signal errors in the first few minutes made me not try any further.

    Contact Bleass? In the meantime, maybe just try a good old fashioned device restart hehe

  • @craftycurate said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:
    One thing that might cause problems for ppl btw is if they use mpe keyboards with this but forget to turn mpe on in Arpeggiator. That also will quickly lead to a ton of stuck notes, but is basically user error rather than a problem with the apps involved

    How is BleassArp standing compared to StepPolyArp and Mela4? My instabuy syndrome is on hold until next year. ;) So I forced myself to justify every purchase.

    This MPE feature looks stellar to me, I need to find some good examples.

    Im currently testing the BLEASS demo on desktop and getting a feel for it. It definitely brings something new into the arpverse and it’s quite different from StepPolyArp (SPA)

    So far BLEASS brings a load of new options, and the modulation possibilities are second to none, so it definitely has something unique to offer. Some of the play modes are very useful e.g. Thumb and Pinky. The FM synth is a bit of a gimmick perhaps as most users will want to route it to something more useful.

    If you want more control over notes and steps, SPA is definitely the stronger choice - it has more of a step sequencer approach, whereas BLEASS will probably surprise you more, at the cost of less control. For example, for a bassljne with a bit if variation every 8th note, SPA definitely the winner,

    So far, for all the variation, I’m getting a lot of results that end up being a bit the same in terms of overall effect e.g. the Pattern section generates a lot of similar sounding results, so need to play with params more I think. Not sure i’m seen a manual yet, which would help.

    So it’s definitely different from SPA and worth looking into.

    From the demos available and your preview, I got the impression that BleassArp is a reincarnation of what KDevices TATAT should have been. It’s more focused on generative and experimental purposes than controlled and static ones.

    I like the functionality and the concept of BleassArp. I’m hooked on the MPE feature, if this is what I think it is, then the purchase is justified.

    SPA will stay where it is, and BleassArp will replace TATAT as it looks. Thanks for the observation, you helped me.

  • @jsmonzani said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Has anybody used this as a Midi AU inside Drambo yet?

    If so, is the REC button present?

    Yes!

    Any problems such as frequent stuck notes or even missed notes that don’t get triggered?

    There are definitely issues. For instance, I record a chord in Drambo’s sequencer and when I release it, the arpeggiator keeps playing and won’t stop. This happens when you make a manipulation, like removing a module while holding keys and the arpeggiator doesn’t receive the note release(s). So it isn’t exactly Bleass’ fault.

    Thanks for the report! The REC button was my main concern. Also, I recently learned that long pressing undo and pressing play is D’s panic button.

  • @craftycurate said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:
    One thing that might cause problems for ppl btw is if they use mpe keyboards with this but forget to turn mpe on in Arpeggiator. That also will quickly lead to a ton of stuck notes, but is basically user error rather than a problem with the apps involved

    How is BleassArp standing compared to StepPolyArp and Mela4? My instabuy syndrome is on hold until next year. ;) So I forced myself to justify every purchase.

    This MPE feature looks stellar to me, I need to find some good examples.

    Im currently testing the BLEASS demo on desktop and getting a feel for it. It definitely brings something new into the arpverse and it’s quite different from StepPolyArp (SPA)

    So far BLEASS brings a load of new options, and the modulation possibilities are second to none, so it definitely has something unique to offer. Some of the play modes are very useful e.g. Thumb and Pinky. The FM synth is a bit of a gimmick perhaps as most users will want to route it to something more useful.

    If you want more control over notes and steps, SPA is definitely the stronger choice - it has more of a step sequencer approach, whereas BLEASS will probably surprise you more, at the cost of less control. For example, for a bassljne with a bit if variation every 8th note, SPA definitely the winner,

    So far, for all the variation, I’m getting a lot of results that end up being a bit the same in terms of overall effect e.g. the Pattern section generates a lot of similar sounding results, so need to play with params more I think. Not sure i’m seen a manual yet, which would help.

    So it’s definitely different from SPA and worth looking into.

    You nailed it. SPA is one of my favorite midi apps and I can see this slotting right along with it. Definitely adds enough to justify a purchase, imo.

    The modulation is where it’s at imo. The motion sequencer combined with the LFOs can lead you down some really weird holes lol

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