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People who bought BAM: How do you like it so far?
Hello everyone, now that a little time has passed and the honeymoon phase is over I was wondering how and if people are still using BAM. It is currently discounted, but seeing how EG Nodes is releasing sometime soon and is really good and I want to cut down frivolous spending I was curious to everyone's honest opinion before spending money. Thanks in advance!
- I rate BAM47 votes
- Essential31.91%
- Usefull40.43%
- Overhyped19.15%
- Unnecessary8.51%
Comments
No category for “I haven’t opened it yet…” 😅
Nice and very relevant option for many of us XD will add it!
Edit: I can't add a new option
Used it a few times just to a have different and limited environment to jam in but unfortunately the fonts on some ui elements are extremely tiny and not being able to tweak synth parameters while using the built in keyboard are dealbreaker for me.
The keyboard issue is already resolved in the latest version.
Regarding the UI, your opinion is shared among other users. We'll try to find a solution for that
I made a pre-order. It's currently on beta. And I really like it. Yes, there are mistakes so far. But for me, BAM is very convenient because of the speed of creation.
i'm always on latest beta, so giving it Essential – a bit in advance, but whatever.
likely to become really Essential since 1.0.5 when MIDI FX slot is implemented.
anyway, already my favorite app for sketching and arranging.
desktop version availability is THE great advantage because i prefer using desktop when i'm at home, and i can easily swith to/from iPad.
Oh nice! I just tried it, I must have missed it in the update notes.
That’s good to know, hope you’ll find a way
I think it’s on its way to becoming essential
Midi fx are coming and i hope it gets the ability to switch seemlessly between projects to play a set.
I’m sure a lot of small improvements will also help solve the minor frustrations of a new and complicated tool
I have a lot of faith in the developers and expect BAM will be a major part of my workflow in years to come
Essential, I don't have any GAS now or in future for a hardware groovebox.
I like the way the sequencer works.
Play this row 4 times, go down, play 2 times, go down, etc. That frees me up, I don't have to build this in a time line.
I already mentioned in an other topic, some kind of arpeggiator would be nice, and a scaler function.
And my old MC505 had a function to fire short midi sequences on the fly on top of the pattern that is playing. I think it was RPS function. That would be nice for a performance or a jam.
BAM is one of the best apps to come out period (imo) and is the groovebox for iOS. (Not counting Drambo because it’s evolved passed that). It’s so fun and simple but still very powerful and Imaginando are very committed to making it the best it can be.
Regarding Nodes: I’m on the beta and it’s also excellent but totally different. BAM is a groovebox first and foremost. Nodes is a host first and foremost. It’s basically more like AUM but with built in sequencers and automation. Just want to make that distinction so no one feels let down when Nodes comes out. It is absolutely amazing though and is an idea generating station.
@horstrange good distinction. I am in the beta for Nodes too. Reading this I realise the fact that nodes only hosts auv3's is a plus for me. It makes me focus on the instruments and fx I already have and know wich are often missing out on good sequencing and automation.
What is Nodes?
Upcoming @ElliottGarage app that is a modulating sequencing groovebox host
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/57592/eg-nodes
I agree. Both Nodes and BAM have their own things going for them and I love and use them both in totally different ways. Thought it was important to point out though so people don’t decide not to buy Nodes thinking it’s “just another groovebox” because I’ve seen a fair few comments from people that seem to think it’s more in line with a typical groovebox.
What are your thoughts on when you’d prefer Nodes and when you’d prefer AUM?
@drewinnit :Can BAM mid time signatures within a song?
@HotStrange : Sounds like it would be good to have both
BAM and Drambo have slightly different logic – when you trigger some clip to play, the track (that clip belongs to) switches to that clip instead of playing it on top of previous.
btw, since we're talking about Roland machines with RPS feature:
@sinusoidal is it possible to do clips / rows MIDI learnable ?
they definitely are in Drambo.
so we could trigger them from external MIDI keyboard/controller, not just with a touchscreen.
this is the main reason why i write music in BAM, but perform it with Drambo – because in live situation Launchpad rocks.
i certainly prefer Nodes on iPhone, especially smaller one, like mine SE2.
it's just more operatable on a small sreen.
As of right now it’s kinda just “whatever I feel like at the moment” 😂 that said, at least in its current form, I find using external midi sequencers easier in AUM, and you can’t have multiple windows open at once so for editing effects and synths simultaneously or quickly in succession AUM is a bit better as well. I think building and layering drones may be a bit more simpler in AUM as well.
Nodes is great for using its sequencers, creating clips, and launching them. It can get weird and do drones, etc but its strength lies in the internal sequencers and clip/pattern launching. It’s great for that and offers a totally unique way of approaching things, imo.
I can easily see it slotting alongside AUM and Loopy Pro as the best “not a DAW” hosts. But
Version 1.0.5 will feature hardware controllers support just like LK. Supported controllers are:
We have unveiled it in this video:
Midi mapping of scenes and clips will also be possible as soon as possible. We just want to make sure we make something it is done right because the midi mapping evolved in BAM architecture.
Sorry, we had to slow down a bit because of xmas and holidays.
sure, that's what holidays are for.
and thanks for keeping us informed, i'm happy to know this is a planned feature, so i eventually will jam with BAM the way i'm used to (with other apps/boxes).
Nice.
It will be most useful to me when it is updated to host AUV3 plugins as MIDI sources. Until then, my most recent work that might be using BAM is still in Drambo.
this already was in 1.0.4 beta for a while.
eventually was removed from 1.0.4 RC and planned for 1.0.5, so we won't wait too long.
Thnx for that thoughtful post, very useful!
sorry no idea, i don't use anything other than 4/4
I’ve never been in the betas. It’s good to know that it’s in short term planning.
I had drambo for more than a year and toyed with it a few times without ever really getting into it. I got BAM and in a few weeks made more things than in the whole time of owning drambo, even though it’s in theory more limited today. I find BAM really engaging, everything is there and easy to access, i like the ui style and the factory sounds. In general i find it drives me to make music rather than mess with plugins
I like how well it designed, very UI friendly and powerful at the same time. Fascinating to see how it will evolve in future.
And since we're talking about features, @sinusoidal, any plans to evolve piano roll in LK fashion with pitch swap/mirror, mutations and scaling?