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plugdata (Pure Data implementation) for iPad and iPhone

GrandbearGrandbear
edited January 4 in General App Discussion

I didn't see this mentioned elsewhere, it's been available since late November. It's currently in an "early preview" sort of state (including not being able to open files and not supporting AUv3), but I'm excited for the future of the project on iOS (it's already great as a standalone and a plugin on desktop):

App store: https://apps.apple.com/app/plugdata/id6473122351
Project page, including link to Discord channel: https://plugdata.org

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  • rs2000rs2000

    Nice, thanks!

  • sevenapesevenape

    Oh ma does this mean I’ll be able to open lira8!?

  • KrupaKrupa

    @sevenape said:
    Oh ma does this mean I’ll be able to open lira8!?

    There is another one which can do that, pd party maybe? It didn’t work as well as I’d hoped though, but still interesting

  • sevenapesevenape

    @Krupa said:

    @sevenape said:
    Oh ma does this mean I’ll be able to open lira8!?

    There is another one which can do that, pd party maybe? It didn’t work as well as I’d hoped though, but still interesting

    The other one was a bit scrolly. This works really well! Now here’s hoping for auv3!!

    Still this is awesome!

  • GrandbearGrandbear

    @sevenape said:
    Oh ma does this mean I’ll be able to open lira8!?

    Most likely as it already works just fine on desktop. I plan on compiling the project myself this week and try to load it and other pre-built patches; I'll let you know. Maybe I can help the developer with the file opening issues in the process.

    One thing that's interesting about this project is that it's under the GPL v3 license. I saw a reference in another thread (I think it was the one about open sourcing Xequence) that apparently this was no longer incompatible with distribution through the app store, so this seems to provide proof of that. It could open the door to other projects being ported.

  • sevenapesevenape

    @Grandbear said:

    @sevenape said:
    Oh ma does this mean I’ll be able to open lira8!?

    Most likely as it already works just fine on desktop. I plan on compiling the project myself this week and try to load it and other pre-built patches; I'll let you know. Maybe I can help the developer with the file opening issues in the process.

    One thing that's interesting about this project is that it's under the GPL v3 license. I saw a reference in another thread (I think it was the one about open sourcing Xequence) that apparently this was no longer incompatible with distribution through the app store, so this seems to provide proof of that. It could open the door to other projects being ported.

    I found the lira 8 in the extras tab. I have no idea about working with pd but I tip my hat off to you!!

    Thanks so much!!!!

  • GrandbearGrandbear

    @sevenape said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @sevenape said:
    Oh ma does this mean I’ll be able to open lira8!?

    Most likely as it already works just fine on desktop. I plan on compiling the project myself this week and try to load it and other pre-built patches; I'll let you know. Maybe I can help the developer with the file opening issues in the process.

    One thing that's interesting about this project is that it's under the GPL v3 license. I saw a reference in another thread (I think it was the one about open sourcing Xequence) that apparently this was no longer incompatible with distribution through the app store, so this seems to provide proof of that. It could open the door to other projects being ported.

    I found the lira 8 in the extras tab. I have no idea about working with pd but I tip my hat off to you!!

    Thanks so much!!!!

    Oh it's already there, nice!!

  • gardengarden

    Nice, nice find.

  • hghonhghon

    Thank you for the rabbit hole 😄 been meaning to learn more about puredata for ages, now if anyone could point me in the direction where I can start!

  • heshes

    @hghon said:
    Thank you for the rabbit hole 😄 been meaning to learn more about puredata for ages, now if anyone could point me in the direction where I can start!

    There's huge amount of resources on internet. One place to try is youtube, do a search for 'pure data tutorials'. I've been through a number in the very comprehensive playlist of 'cheetomoskeeto', which may be especially suitable if you have experience with programming. But just poke around on youtube and you'll find a lot.

  • auxmuxauxmux

    Oh cool, thanks for sharing!

  • sevenapesevenape

    @Grandbear hi! I saw your version of the benjolin on discord! Good work! Is there any way of playing around with this on iPad?!? Sorry I’m totally a novice at this sort of stuff

  • GrandbearGrandbear

    @sevenape said:
    @Grandbear hi! I saw your version of the benjolin on discord! Good work! Is there any way of playing around with this on iPad?!? Sorry I’m totally a novice at this sort of stuff

    Thanks! It should be as easy as opening benjolin-help.pd, but none of the methods I tried for opening files worked, so we need to wait until this is fixed

  • sevenapesevenape

    @Grandbear said:

    @sevenape said:
    @Grandbear hi! I saw your version of the benjolin on discord! Good work! Is there any way of playing around with this on iPad?!? Sorry I’m totally a novice at this sort of stuff

    Thanks! It should be as easy as opening benjolin-help.pd, but none of the methods I tried for opening files worked, so we need to wait until this is fixed

    Thanks! I can wait :)

  • GrandbearGrandbear

    @sevenape said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @sevenape said:
    @Grandbear hi! I saw your version of the benjolin on discord! Good work! Is there any way of playing around with this on iPad?!? Sorry I’m totally a novice at this sort of stuff

    Thanks! It should be as easy as opening benjolin-help.pd, but none of the methods I tried for opening files worked, so we need to wait until this is fixed

    Thanks! I can wait :)

    Tim (the main dev) says that he's already fixed it and will be part of the next version :smile:

  • hghonhghon

    @Grandbear said:

    @sevenape said:
    @Grandbear hi! I saw your version of the benjolin on discord! Good work! Is there any way of playing around with this on iPad?!? Sorry I’m totally a novice at this sort of stuff

    Thanks! It should be as easy as opening benjolin-help.pd, but none of the methods I tried for opening files worked, so we need to wait until this is fixed

    Yes I’m unable to open files I saved as well. Even new patches created within the app. Is that hopefully included in the upcoming fix?

  • Philandering_BastardPhilandering_Bastard

    @Krupa said:

    @sevenape said:
    Oh ma does this mean I’ll be able to open lira8!?

    There is another one which can do that, pd party maybe? It didn’t work as well as I’d hoped though, but still interesting

    That would be MobMuPlat.

  • jsmonzanijsmonzani

    @Grandbear said:
    Tim (the main dev) says that he's already fixed it and will be part of the next version :smile:

    I’m hoping for a release soon as not being able to reload your patches makes it rather pointless at the moment! It’s fun to play with it though!!

  • GrandbearGrandbear

    The update is out!

  • rototomrototom

    wow! looks like we have pd now on ipad!

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    Anyone know if there are plans for AUV3? Having Lira8 in AUM would be a dream

  • GrandbearGrandbear

    @HotStrange said:
    Anyone know if there are plans for AUV3? Having Lira8 in AUM would be a dream

    This new version already supports AUv3, it's a bit buggy (opening files, state saving, param scaling, layout) but it does generate and process audio

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Grandbear said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Anyone know if there are plans for AUV3? Having Lira8 in AUM would be a dream

    This new version already supports AUv3, it's a bit buggy (opening files, state saving, param scaling, layout) but it does generate and process audio

    Ah okay! That’s awesome news. I can live without the other features for now. I’m super excited to dive in though. Lira8 in AUM 🤩

  • catherdercatherder

    @Grandbear said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Anyone know if there are plans for AUV3? Having Lira8 in AUM would be a dream

    This new version already supports AUv3, it's a bit buggy (opening files, state saving, param scaling, layout) but it does generate and process audio

    I changed plugdatas document storage from iCloud to iPad and things got more stable.

  • jihijihi
    edited January 9

    @HotStrange , et al:

    For those of you, who like me need a visual guide, see the images below on how to load up plugdata AUv3 correctly with LIRA-8 running.

    In AUM, load up plugdata and then open the “Documentation Browser” by pressing the “i” icon in the far right window, then expand “Extra” -> “Presets” -> “LIRA-8” and click/double click ”LIRA-8.pd” to load up. Once you get the zoom correct (try setting plugdata’s default zoom to 75%), it should be easy to navigate the LIRA-8 interface and run your droning audio through any AUM magic you can dream up. :)

    The interface is slightly fiddly and I can’t figure out how to get the primary buttons 1-8 to automatically toggle the oscillator on/off. It appears that hitting “x” for each oscillator 1-8 manually twice will cause the note to fade / envelope to close, as expected, with a “fast” envelope and a 10-15 second “not fast” envelope. “Hold” functionality also works for your never ending drones. It seems to behave more or less like the physical box it is emulating (as much as pd via iPadOS / iOS software can). I’d love to see if anybody can get the toggle functionality working and assigned to AUM accessible MIDI control parameters. If anybody figures that out, please share! Also, would love to hear what people come up with it!

    Note: I have not checked tuning or run through extended use test.



    Have fun droning.

  • jsmonzanijsmonzani
    edited January 9

    Thanks @jihi but how do you get to see the far right "i" icon in AUv3? The window is cut out on the right and I can't seem to expand it. Just like in your AUM screenshots.

    Everything works in standalone of course.

    Thanks!

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @jihi said:
    @HotStrange , et al:

    For those of you, who like me need a visual guide, see the images below on how to load up plugdata AUv3 correctly with LIRA-8 running.

    In AUM, load up plugdata and then open the “Documentation Browser” by pressing the “i” icon in the far right window, then expand “Extra” -> “Presets” -> “LIRA-8” and click/double click ”LIRA-8.pd” to load up. Once you get the zoom correct (try setting plugdata’s default zoom to 75%), it should be easy to navigate the LIRA-8 interface and run your droning audio through any AUM magic you can dream up. :)

    The interface is slightly fiddly and I can’t figure out how to get the primary buttons 1-8 to automatically toggle the oscillator on/off. It appears that hitting “x” for each oscillator 1-8 manually twice will cause the note to fade / envelope to close, as expected, with a “fast” envelope and a 10-15 second “not fast” envelope. “Hold” functionality also works for your never ending drones. It seems to behave more or less like the physical box it is emulating (as much as pd via iPadOS / iOS software can). I’d love to see if anybody can get the toggle functionality working and assigned to AUM accessible MIDI control parameters. If anybody figures that out, please share! Also, would love to hear what people come up with it!

    Note: I have not checked tuning or run through extended use test.



    Have fun droning.

    I would love to hear someone's example of a cool Lira8 patch. I have heard a lot of praise but have never found the right parameters I guess.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    On my iPad (running 16.6.1), i am not seeing the i icon when running the AU. I saw that LIRA 8 appears in the AUM preset menu, When I select it, audio happens but the LIRA ui doesn't appear. Any ideas?

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    Thanks @jihi will be referring back to this in just a couple hours while I give it a go :)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @jihi thank you
    It works somehow, and it’s possible plugdata will be updated to resolve all problems with operating

    Sound is fantastic, I’m quite excited to see pd as auv3 soon working ok

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