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  • edited January 2024

    Now, here is why we need Bitcoin success as global money. With that, politician scum looses control about our money flows.

    Current money are circus, bad jokw misused by politicians for their agenda and the victims are always just innocent people.

  • @wim said:

    @HotStrange said:
    I’m curious, if they pull them from the App Store then they won’t restore or transfer when you upgrade to a new iPad correct? They’re one of my favorite devs on iOS so I may have to keep my current iPad on top of a new one just to be able to use these. Their Polyvoks synth and filter app are 2 of my favorites.

    Back up the apps to a desktop using iMazing if you can. You should be able to restore them to another device even if the apps disappear. The free version of iMazing is enough for this.

    But won't we be limited to the demo version if we need to restore them to another device? All of their apps have an IAP to unlock the full version.

  • They should be out protesting the war 24/7. Good riddance.

  • @Skyblazer said:

    @wim said:

    @HotStrange said:
    I’m curious, if they pull them from the App Store then they won’t restore or transfer when you upgrade to a new iPad correct? They’re one of my favorite devs on iOS so I may have to keep my current iPad on top of a new one just to be able to use these. Their Polyvoks synth and filter app are 2 of my favorites.

    Back up the apps to a desktop using iMazing if you can. You should be able to restore them to another device even if the apps disappear. The free version of iMazing is enough for this.

    But won't we be limited to the demo version if we need to restore them to another device? All of their apps have an IAP to unlock the full version.

    I dunno. I never thought about iMazing as it relates to IAPs.

  • I fear this is only the beginning. The curtain will be closed again. Who‘s next? Alexander Zolotov / Sunvox? The only way to survive the app store is to open an office somewhere else (except North Korea 😉).

    Yes, and sanctions are so pointless as they only achieve the opposite in the end.

    „History will teach us nothing“, Sting.

  • @ChrisG said:
    They should be out protesting the war 24/7.

    I agree, so should you have too. Stop all wars.

  • @dendy said:
    Now, here is why we need Bitcoin success as global money. With that, politician scum looses control about our money flows.

    Current money are circus, bad jokw misused by politicians for their agenda and the victims are always just innocent people.

    Quite a few nations are taking action against imperialism, it’s called BRICS.

  • Solidarity with Red Rock Sound, hope everything works out well.

  • edited January 2024

    @knewspeak said:

    @dendy said:
    Now, here is why we need Bitcoin success as global money. With that, politician scum looses control about our money flows.

    Current money are circus, bad jokw misused by politicians for their agenda and the victims are always just innocent people.

    Quite a few nations are taking action against imperialism, it’s called BRICS.

    BRICS is joke ... bunch of undemocratic regimes where human rights and freedom are even worse than in US (and US is really police totality, really glad i don't live there) ..

    What i am talking about is need for money which will be out of control of governments. That is really ONLY way to prevent horrible dystopia in near future. It has nothing to do with imperialism (btw. some members of BRICS are same imperialists like USA - for example Russia or China). It's about absolute control over money (in terms of money printing, money flow, not amount of money they own)

    Also China with their social credit system and CBDC implementation is pure hell ... another member of BRICS - UAE is close friend with USA - they are basically their extended hand on middle east. So, really BRICS solves nothing and it is not alternative to anything. And IRAN ? Oh god, fuck me, country which is publicly supporting terrorists and where people are publicly hang up for being homosexual ? Really "great" alternative ...

    I shit on all goverments equally. Politicians are garbage psychopaths everywhere around the globe. Somewhere they are better in hiding it, somewhere not. But most of shit in world is because of religious fanatics and greedy governments (worst case are countries where government is build from religious fanatics - like Iran for example).

    Where it's hard to mitigate the the first group, the latter is easy - take out of their hands control over money, and they are fucked.

  • edited January 2024

    @ChrisG said:
    They should be out protesting the war 24/7. Good riddance.

    It's complicated. Police / gov terror agains their citizens is very hard in Russia. If you go protest agains gov you can end VERY bad. To be beaten by police are just mild consequences.

    Also people in Russia are hardcore brainwasshed by public media, som many of them have completely distorted point of view about this whole conflict. It's unfortunate situation.

    ATM only way for good people is simply pack things and leave Russia (which not everybody can afford to do). It's sad, but it is like it is.

  • @wim said:

    @HotStrange said:
    I’m curious, if they pull them from the App Store then they won’t restore or transfer when you upgrade to a new iPad correct? They’re one of my favorite devs on iOS so I may have to keep my current iPad on top of a new one just to be able to use these. Their Polyvoks synth and filter app are 2 of my favorites.

    Back up the apps to a desktop using iMazing if you can. You should be able to restore them to another device even if the apps disappear. The free version of iMazing is enough for this.

    Don’t have a desktop unfortunately but may see if a friend will let me use theirs for this before the month is over.

  • Frankly @dendy you don’t berate governments equally your statement shows you hold certain ones in contempt whilst others are absent from your vitriol, you will be witness to the turmoil that lays not to far distant, that sadly is the decay of the West, but all I hold out hope still for a better system, for all humanity not just a very few.

  • edited January 2024

    We are all getting brainwashed by public media, that’s why alternative media is so important.
    And sanctions never work, it only hurts the wrong people.

  • edited January 2024

    @dendy you're making a few very good points, but on the flipside, you are implying that some countries ("the west" mostly, which is synonymous to "NATO" when you think about it) are intrinsically "better" than others (BRICS) and that the government media somehow brainwash their citizens less there. That's where you might be mistaken and actually slightly brainwashed by your media yourself. Sorry! But still, good points otherwise.

  • @dendy said:
    Now, here is why we need Bitcoin success as global money. With that, politician scum looses control about our money flows.

    Current money are circus, bad jokw misused by politicians for their agenda and the victims are always just innocent people.

    Also digital payments have now become so ludicrously complicated ("security") that it's essentially easier to just drive over and hand them cash.

  • edited January 2024

    @SevenSystems said:
    @dendy you're making a few very good points, but on the flipside, you are implying that some countries ("the west" mostly, which is synonymous to "NATO" when you think about it) are intrinsically "better" than others (BRICS) and that the government media somehow brainwash their citizens less there. That's where you might be mistaken and actually slightly brainwashed by your media yourself. Sorry! But still, good points otherwise.

    Well yes.. in some way all mainstream media are more bad than good. In US it is big problem also, no doubt - but still at least at some degree there is freedom of speeach. Yeah, not ideal, but still it is there...

    Did you ever read / watched some Russian state media ? It's really horrible. We had totality in (Czecho)slovakia befoire 1989 and what is now in Russia is not much different (in some things even worse, it's on the way to China or even South Korea direction)

    Like our European media, are MUCH better. Not ideal, lot of room for improvement, but better. I would say our problem is not directly spreading government propaganda, but more like too shallow information, not going in depth into problem, too much one-sided point of view, unprofesionalism amongst journalists ..

    It's simply wide spectrum from "ideal" to "completely fucked up", things are not back / white. Thera are relatively good, there are bad media, there are worse media, and there is absolutely horrible government propaganda media :) Latter one is standard in many BRICS countries, not that much in European democratic countries.

    Needles to say after recent elections in Slovakia, state financed media will go to shit for sure. But independent media are still finghting hard and i hope they will not loose like those in Hungary did.

    Let's put apart US. That's topic on it's own :-D

  • @dendy said:

    @SevenSystems said:
    @dendy you're making a few very good points, but on the flipside, you are implying that some countries ("the west" mostly, which is synonymous to "NATO" when you think about it) are intrinsically "better" than others (BRICS) and that the government media somehow brainwash their citizens less there. That's where you might be mistaken and actually slightly brainwashed by your media yourself. Sorry! But still, good points otherwise.

    Well yes.. in some way all mainstream media are more bad than good. In US it is big problem also, no doubt - but still at least at some degree there is freedom of speeach. Yeah, not ideal, but still it is there...

    Yes.

    Did you ever read / watched some Russian state media ? It's really horrible. We had totality in (Czecho)slovakia befoire 1989 and what is now in Russia is not much different (in some things even worse, it's on the way to China or even South Korea direction)

    Before the EU blocked Russia Today to protect my thinking™, I did read them sometimes, as I always like to hear all sides of the story, no matter what the topic. While it was obvious they had the Russian state agenda to trumpet, it didn't feel much worse than the stuff you read on, say, German state media, which I've been reading for decades (I'm German).

    I do understand that you're probably traumatized by the fact you live in a former Warsaw Pact country. So I'll give you some leeway 😄

    Like our European media, are MUCH better. Not ideal, lot of room for improvement, but better. I would say our problem is not directly spreading government propaganda, but more like too shallow information, not going in depth into problem, too much one-sided point of view, unprofesionalism amongst journalists ..

    I would say that western government media just have a different approach to propaganda. They are much smarter. They don't outright lie or state verifiably wrong information -- they just sneakily skip information in a certain way or present information in a very particular light so that it serves their agendas.

    They often do it in a way that you juuuuuuuust barely can't accuse them of spreading wrong information, but it's clear that it's not objective and neutral, which they always claim to be.

    But as you say, it's a wide spectrum and some are probably worse than others.

    But believe be, German state media are also a league of their own. For example, on tagesschau.de (official biggest German state medium), pretty much every single article is full of opinion and ideology and finger-pointing. Basically everything you read there should be marked as "Op-ed".

  • edited January 2024

    @SevenSystems
    Before the EU blocked Russia Today to protect my thinking™, I did read them sometimes, as I always like to hear all sides of the story, no matter what the topic. While it was obvious they had the Russian state agenda to trumpet, it didn't feel much worse than the stuff you read on, say, German state media, which I've been reading for decades (I'm German).

    It got infinite times worse now after Russia attacked Ukraine. Like in state TV in prime time so called "journalists" are literally encouraging gov to launching nukes agains NATO and shit like that. They are openly talking about how, after they defeat Ukraine, they will continue with Slovakia, Poland, Czech republic and then will continue to west. Not arguing this is unrealistic nonsense, just it's example how far propaganda goes there.

    I would say that western government media just have a different approach to propaganda. They are much smarter

    Thing is - yes, state controlled media are always publishing more or lest "state truth" also here. Obviously, they are financed by state so it would be weird if they don't do it.

    But we have also independent media, which have no problem to talk about shit government is doing. Not aware of situation in Germany, but in Slovakia we have 3-4 main newspapers who have no problem with informing about bad things gov is doing - and they are doing it consistently for decades, no mater if gov is more left-sided or more right-sides which is pretty much good indicator they have high degree of independence and objectivity (main three are sme.sk, dennikn.sk, aktuality.sk) ..

    This is not the case in totalitarian countries like Russia or China. They have ONLY state media with state propaganda, and that is. Endgame. When some journalist tries some criticism to Gov, looses job in best case, or ends in jail in worse case, or ends with polonium in tea :-D

  • @SevenSystems said:

    I do understand that you're probably traumatized by the fact you live in a former Warsaw Pact country. So I'll give you some leeway 😄

    Like our European media, are MUCH better. Not ideal, lot of room for improvement, but better. I would say our problem is not directly spreading government propaganda, but more like too shallow information, not going in depth into problem, too much one-sided point of view, unprofesionalism amongst journalists ..

    I would say that western government media just have a different approach to propaganda. They are much smarter. They don't outright lie or state verifiably wrong information -- they just sneakily skip information in a certain way or present information in a very particular light so that it serves their agendas.

    What a pleasure to sit on a warm Western sofa and discuss the similarities between Russian and Western mass media. One minor difference is that following Russian propaganda and former Russian culture (ballet, Tostoyevsky, you name it), Russian rockets and shells are falling from the sky onto your home, whether you like the ancient Soviet Polyvox synthesizer or not.

  • Red Rock Sound should leave Russia immediately. If they are good developer they will get a future in the free world! Russia isn’t free, it’s similar to North Korea now. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a propagandist of the western democracy but I’m really happy to live outside of Russia!
    Ok. Music is the key :)

  • @slaq said:
    Red Rock Sound should leave Russia immediately. If they are good developer they will get a future in the free world! Russia isn’t free, it’s similar to North Korea now. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a propagandist of the western democracy but I’m really happy to live outside of Russia!
    Ok. Music is the key :)

    I thought Russia had no weapons, aren’t they just a gas station masquerading as a country as we were all told? Biden and company told us Russia had lost? The simple answer was it was a lie, many people have paid the ultimate price for that lie.

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @dendy said:

    @SevenSystems said:
    @dendy you're making a few very good points, but on the flipside, you are implying that some countries ("the west" mostly, which is synonymous to "NATO" when you think about it) are intrinsically "better" than others (BRICS) and that the government media somehow brainwash their citizens less there. That's where you might be mistaken and actually slightly brainwashed by your media yourself. Sorry! But still, good points otherwise.

    Well yes.. in some way all mainstream media are more bad than good. In US it is big problem also, no doubt - but still at least at some degree there is freedom of speeach. Yeah, not ideal, but still it is there...

    Yes.

    Did you ever read / watched some Russian state media ? It's really horrible. We had totality in (Czecho)slovakia befoire 1989 and what is now in Russia is not much different (in some things even worse, it's on the way to China or even South Korea direction)

    Before the EU blocked Russia Today to protect my thinking™, I did read them sometimes, as I always like to hear all sides of the story, no matter what the topic. While it was obvious they had the Russian state agenda to trumpet, it didn't feel much worse than the stuff you read on, say, German state media, which I've been reading for decades (I'm German).

    I do understand that you're probably traumatized by the fact you live in a former Warsaw Pact country. So I'll give you some leeway 😄

    Like our European media, are MUCH better. Not ideal, lot of room for improvement, but better. I would say our problem is not directly spreading government propaganda, but more like too shallow information, not going in depth into problem, too much one-sided point of view, unprofesionalism amongst journalists ..

    I would say that western government media just have a different approach to propaganda. They are much smarter. They don't outright lie or state verifiably wrong information -- they just sneakily skip information in a certain way or present information in a very particular light so that it serves their agendas.

    They often do it in a way that you juuuuuuuust barely can't accuse them of spreading wrong information, but it's clear that it's not objective and neutral, which they always claim to be.

    But as you say, it's a wide spectrum and some are probably worse than others.

    But believe be, German state media are also a league of their own. For example, on tagesschau.de (official biggest German state medium), pretty much every single article is full of opinion and ideology and finger-pointing. Basically everything you read there should be marked as "Op-ed".

    Exactly this. Same in the Netherlands.

  • @Slush said:
    We are all getting brainwashed by public media, that’s why alternative media is so important.
    And sanctions never work, it only hurts the wrong people.

    Yes, it’s the best way to determine the most reasonable truth, you will then notice shifting positions in the MSM they can’t totally alter reality only tinker, but they’re becoming increasingly irate because they know exactly what it means for themselves and the power structure they represent.

  • @Slush said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @dendy said:

    @SevenSystems said:
    @dendy you're making a few very good points, but on the flipside, you are implying that some countries ("the west" mostly, which is synonymous to "NATO" when you think about it) are intrinsically "better" than others (BRICS) and that the government media somehow brainwash their citizens less there. That's where you might be mistaken and actually slightly brainwashed by your media yourself. Sorry! But still, good points otherwise.

    Well yes.. in some way all mainstream media are more bad than good. In US it is big problem also, no doubt - but still at least at some degree there is freedom of speeach. Yeah, not ideal, but still it is there...

    Yes.

    Did you ever read / watched some Russian state media ? It's really horrible. We had totality in (Czecho)slovakia befoire 1989 and what is now in Russia is not much different (in some things even worse, it's on the way to China or even South Korea direction)

    Before the EU blocked Russia Today to protect my thinking™, I did read them sometimes, as I always like to hear all sides of the story, no matter what the topic. While it was obvious they had the Russian state agenda to trumpet, it didn't feel much worse than the stuff you read on, say, German state media, which I've been reading for decades (I'm German).

    I do understand that you're probably traumatized by the fact you live in a former Warsaw Pact country. So I'll give you some leeway 😄

    Like our European media, are MUCH better. Not ideal, lot of room for improvement, but better. I would say our problem is not directly spreading government propaganda, but more like too shallow information, not going in depth into problem, too much one-sided point of view, unprofesionalism amongst journalists ..

    I would say that western government media just have a different approach to propaganda. They are much smarter. They don't outright lie or state verifiably wrong information -- they just sneakily skip information in a certain way or present information in a very particular light so that it serves their agendas.

    They often do it in a way that you juuuuuuuust barely can't accuse them of spreading wrong information, but it's clear that it's not objective and neutral, which they always claim to be.

    But as you say, it's a wide spectrum and some are probably worse than others.

    But believe be, German state media are also a league of their own. For example, on tagesschau.de (official biggest German state medium), pretty much every single article is full of opinion and ideology and finger-pointing. Basically everything you read there should be marked as "Op-ed".

    Exactly this. Same in the Netherlands.

    It’s pretty much the same across the West, we’re all the vassals of the USA.

  • edited January 2024

    @knewspeak said:
    I thought Russia had no weapons, aren’t they just a gas station masquerading as a country as we were all told?

    Do not remember anybody questioning their weapons. This metaphore was related to their industry / economy, not to army. Everybody knows about their 6000+ nukes, that is actually only reason why west (or entire world) is taking them seriously, cause other than that it’s laughable.

    We saw actually lot of examples of great russian army, starting with Wagner group marching on Moscow and Russian army unable to do anything with it, continuing with Ukraine drones almost reaching Moscow and ending with 10+ russian state of art ultrasonic missiles Kindzal - allegedly invincible - destroyed by Ukraine air defense like a breeze 🤣

  • @dendy said:
    We saw actually lot of examples of great russian army, starting with Wagner group marching on Moscow and Russian army unable to do anything with it, continuing with Ukraine drones almost reaching Moscow and ending with 10+ russian state of art ultrasonic missiles Kindzal - allegedly invincible - destroyed by Ukraine air defense like a breeze 🤣

    This is exactly what I see in the media. They speak about thousands of russian tanks lost, 300k+ killed russian soldiers, Ukranian counterattacks, sabotages in Moscow, clumsy and unprofessional Russian army, etc.
    Why don’t we hear about those hundreds of thousands poor Ukranian guys who have been sent to the frontline and died? As @Dante777 said the media sneakily skips this information. I believe there must be similar number of casualties on the Ukranian side as well. :(
    How would change the people’s approach to the war if they saw the whole picture?
    What would have been the approach if someone had told at the beginning that the war will probably take years and hundreds of thousands of Ukranian men will die?

  • edited January 2024

    @dendy said:
    10+ russian state of art ultrasonic missiles Kindzal - allegedly invincible - destroyed by Ukraine air defense like a breeze 🤣

    Don't wanna sound like a broken record, but again -- have you been on the ground in Kiev and personally witnessed these getting shot down? ;) It's all propaganda. That's how half of a war is fought. I know you know. Just sayin'! :)

  • I own couple of RRS plugins (compressors, eq, Ivoks…). Funnily enough this sanction will bounce back to us from the rest of the world, as we’ll loose apps we already paid for. Makes no sense.

  • First victim of a war is the truth.

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