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App Store to Be 'Split in Two' Ahead of EU iPhone Sideloading Deadline
Apple is preparing to split the App Store "in two" in the coming weeks ahead of European Union requirements that will force Apple to enable app sideloading in the region, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman reports.
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/15/app-store-to-be-split-in-two/
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Interesting
What's most frustrating is the misguided paranoia surrounding this which is simply a basic consumer and developer freedom most people agree with (or it wouldn't be happening).
Some of the comments on that article indicate that their world is about to end when we've aways been able to install apps from different places on our computers and devices for decades. It's actually a good thing for all of us to have the choice. No one is forcing these people to install anything outside the appstore which most developers will stick with.
If devs do go outside the appstore, it would potentially be good for YouTubers if they were once again able to share affiliate links. Apple’s discarding of affiliate links a few years ago was disastrous for the iOS Music YouTube community and is certainly one reason why many ppl who were doing YouTube a few years ago are no longer doing so, and why others who started in recent years, after the affiliate program was dropped, have not found it worth their while to continue in any serious way. So I personally would welcome 3rd party options that allow for affiliate links.
I’m 100% against this EU shit.
It has been just perfect for us on iOS and AppStore for most than fifthteen years.
No need for changes - if developer wants more money, make better and more expensive apps.
One way to go for easier support to the developer is to have an button in AppStore to push, fill in our amount of cash and then the whole sum will be directed to the developer.
No one is forcing developers to go outside the appstore, it will only benefit them as Apple will feel in their best interest to treat them better and make the appstore a better experience for everyone
But yeah the advantages for consumers is good too, I'll welcome more open source software choice which has so far been blocked by the appstore mostly.
This is the EU being jealous of the big Yankee corporations, then again cutting them down to size may not be that bad a thing.
I'm 100% for it. There's a reason why the EU is forcing Apple to do this and it's because it's anti-consumer.
And nothing changes on the Apple AppStore. If you don't want to use additional stores then it won't affect you.
But what if I want to use apps that would previously be available in the App Store but now I have to give out my credit card info etc to multiple outlets. Particularly with subscriptions becoming prevalent I would now have no single place to check and manage them.
Which is a fair point and I understand your concern.
If the Apple ”closed walls” is opened up iOS community will end up just like the Android world - sure, can be some advantages in Android, but, the pirecy on Android is why that platform almost never get any Pro apps been develop and released on Android.
Isn’t this the case with iOS also?
Will it be possible to download “free” apps without to Jailbreak the iOS devices?
Everyone knew the deal when they bought their Apple device. This is the EU interfering in the ability of companies to engage in business as they see fit and most insultingly, it treats customers in the EU as completely inept and unable to make informed decisions. Want "better options" than what Apple has to offer? Then buy an Android device. There's no monopoly and no one has ever been forced to buy Apple's products.
hmm... it's becoming harder and harder to decide which camp is the snowflake
There will be a PACE backed store no doubt… but I’m not reliving that world of hurt from desktop VST land.
Only first party apps on this here iPad (except for patterning au )
Or perhaps. "Why don't they care?"
I don't.
I won't shed a tear over any apps only available outside the App Store, if there are any. I expect that most publishers will also offer their apps to the App Store, perhaps at a 15% premium, but offer them nonetheless. Fine with me if they do or they don't. It's not like I'm gonna die if I don't have access to a friggin' music app.
Also, I'm a bit suspicious of the idea "If something is happening, it must be good for the people, otherwise it wouldn't be happening" 🥴 that sounds a bit too optimistic to me!
Amen. Plenty of us have never purchased a plugin or DAW that requires iLok. Sometimes good plugins require iLok and it’s a little disappointing, but it’s never stopped us making music with other gear.
Not sure where that quote is from but it's not from me
😄 yes I was thinking of what you said earlier. I paraphrased a LITTLE bit but not much! 🤣
Especially as those prone to conspiracy theories tend to come out of the woodwork for things like this with explanations of nefarious behavior that has no basis in fact.
On the Mac, I bought gadget (1.7 – never upgraded because the upgrade cost was never subject to their frequent special offers on everything else) and that was not through apple’s apple shop
Also more recently I bought the Affinity 2.0 set and despite trying to buy it for several weeks trying over and over and over most of the day every day, I gave in and used the apple app shop to buy it (I was hoping they’d get more money if I bought it direct and not through apple – that’s how I bought the 1.0 set originally)
Years ago, I "unbricked" an iPhone. I was able to load apps not in the store. Potentially dangerous, although I never had a problem. After buying a new phone, I didn't unbrick it, I stayed in the Apple universe. I think forcing Apple to allow sideloading is a positive thing, although I am skeptical of the government forcing such things. The problem is that Apple is a huge monopoly. Once upon a time, I was an Apple advocate—no more. I bought an iMac in 2019 and the screen is already going bad. I guess five years is asking too much for an expensive computer. Planned obsolescence!
It's the definition of a strawman, nothing to do with what I said.... I wouldn't agree with that statement either
Which, in my case is to stick with the App Store for iOS. Thus "I don't care".
I don't think you'll find anywhere that I said there's anything bad about it. Again, simply "I don't personally care whether it happens or not. It doesn't affect me."
FWIW, I think that it will be healthy for the App Store and the ecosystem as a whole. However, I'm soundly against government forcing such a move. Apple is not a monopoly. By at least one account they hover around 29% of the mobile device market. Virtually no customer is critically impacted. Envy / psychology impacted perhaps ... 🙄
I believe in free market economies and limited government as much as possible. Those are only my own views. I don't feel that anyone needs to share my same views about governmental intervention. My views are my own. I think I have sound reasons for my stance, other's feel their reasoning is sound. I'm not to say who is right, only what is right for me.
That is totally different. That would be taking something existing away. I bought my iOS devices fully aware and accepting of the App Store restrictions. Not so for the Mac.
If a future Mac or macOS version came out without such freedom, I'd make my own decision about whether or not to participate. Again - not a monopoly. There are other choices.
That is a logical non-sequitur. Mac and iOS App Store environments are different things altogether.
But on "this happening is a Good Thing!" I agree (without the exclamation point).
I am most interested in what our iOS developers think of this.
Sorry, I'm with Apple on this.
Was gonna write a long post but nah, in short, I just like Apple ecosystem. But more importantly, this ecosystem is what it is, no-one is forced to use Apple products, it's not an essential good, the matter is not a safety concern - even if you personally would like side-loading, I don't think government enforcing rules like this on a business is a good way to achieve it.
Except that they're not a monopoly. Huge yes, a monopoly, no.
Here's a preview of what's to come:
https://x.com/dhh/status/1747406430054097099?s=20
1) Do the minimum amount possible to comply.
2) Make it as difficult as possible to do things the non-apple way.
3) Still get paid either way.
Does anyone have more information about the new EU Appstore "fork"?
Will it be inviting enough for open source developers to publish their free apps without paying Apple?
And will anyone review such apps before they're released to the public?
I don't believe that Apple will drop the app sandbox and developer certificate thing.
The biggest monopoly is the EU. They need to be split up and regulated. LOL