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DrumPerfect Pro: Discovering the Hidden Power Within

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  • @hellquist said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    I just emailed Jim about it last week. I don’t know when be he’s had a bit of a setback.. He’s back on it now .

    Umm, I hate to be a stickler for detail, but by "Jim" you actually mean "Marinus"? Or has Jim taken over the app?

    No , that was a typo: I meant “him”, Marius ..

  • @hellquist said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    New one is coming soon..

    Is your post based on beta testing happening as we speak, or wishful thinking? :)
    Are we talking weeks/months or "possibly 2025"? Do we know? Honest question.

    "Coming soon" is all relative in the iOS music creation world, hehe. I've been away for 4-ish years and (sadly) DPP seems to be in the exact state as it was when I took a break.

    Having looked around these last 2-3 weeks, as I am getting back "on it" and setting everything up again for music creation, trying to catch up on what apps have been released during my time away, I still haven't found a drum sequencer with the same functionality as DPP (but as AuV3) with groupings of hits (B and C will only play if A, with a probability factor, played, and if nothing else it **will **play on every 4th cycle) etc. Also the sample engine of DPP in randomizing a combination between 4 hi+4 lo velocities on each hit is excellent. It looks like OneShot seems to be the closest for this, but I have yet to try it out.

    There is still definitely a need for full DPP in AuV3.

    You are the first one I see that praises that sequencer. Most people, myself included, think it's one hard to understand: mess.

    I loved DPP when it came out and I was so impressed with how it sounded. You express it in a way that made me curious to start try using the sequencer again (wow, I had uninstalled it - guess OneShot was the icing on the cake)

    The start of this thread was a mistake, no doubt but, I have yet to see a decent explanation why it started?
    And ... why it has been quiet for soon to be a year despite promises of "soon" (that word should be banned).

    I'm sure Mr.Spiegel has a valid excuse for developers (are there a harder life, huh Ed?) treating their customers like this.

    Guess I'm moving on, petty really, as I bought it full price and have also payed for most of their libraries. Well, I did one(1) song with it.

  • @Pxlhg said:

    You are the first one I see that praises that sequencer. Most people, myself included, think it's one hard to understand: mess.

    Yeah, actually, the sequencer as such and its usability leaves much to wish for indeed. Functionality wise though I haven't found any other sequencer, drum specific or otherwise, that has the same advanced functionality (it should be noted I've been away from music creation for a couple of years now, there might be something?).

    As already mentioned, the ability to group hits, to mark that they belong together, but that they shouldn't happen every cycle. Or that you could use settings in the app that mimic a real drummer, which then can't actually do 3 hits with their hands and the exact same time. Or the choking of any other pad based on the hit of another (that I have seen elsewhere).

    I think the most impressive part for me was that with just a handful of patterns, had you sorted out your probability chains etc, meant you actually got away with a 1/10-th of the patterns needed in other apps for the same thing.

    Also that you could do "additive" (in lack of better word...perhaps "non-destructive"...) copying of patterns, so you could create your base patterns and just having to spend time doing the "flair" hits.

    So, setting up DPP took longer (and the sample handling/interface is a mystery to me to this day), but if you spent the time doing it, and setting up your kits properly, and your patterns library, it was actually faster to work in than most other drum apps, and it yielded sooo much better results.

    It was obvious someone who knew and understood the intricacies of drumming had made it. That isn't to say it was extremely usable, or that it couldn't be improved on. But yeah, I miss DPP greatly, especially now as I'm coming back to music creation and this time around it involves my guitar a lot more than it did a couple of years ago when I mostly had pure-electronic ideas (as that was "new" to me, I'm first and foremost a guitarist) and wish to be able to use my purchased multi-velocity drum samples.

  • +2 one shot ! Killed this @Pxlhg
    Why continue dev on a dead issue
    And transparency would be better than lies to string us along right but thanks for Edward’s positivity px haha

    Umm @hellquist youre right. The sequencer made this special besides the Sounds.sound wise though it’s been killed my one shot so that’s why it’s delayed I’m
    Sure. But the sequencer with the packs we purchased should serves us still. I wish they replied to me but they don’t even reply to me . I never start off like “I’m a mod so please give me more importance than other requests and questions before me” I just asked as a customer and they totally ignored me for months now

    Not happy about that. I should tell me I’m a mod and maybe I’ll get some answers lmao

  • edited December 2024

    @hellquist said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    You are the first one I see that praises that sequencer. Most people, myself included, think it's one hard to understand: mess.

    Yeah, actually, the sequencer as such and its usability leaves much to wish for indeed. Functionality wise though I haven't found any other sequencer, drum specific or otherwise, that has the same advanced functionality (it should be noted I've been away from music creation for a couple of years now, there might be something?).

    As already mentioned, the ability to group hits, to mark that they belong together, but that they shouldn't happen every cycle. Or that you could use settings in the app that mimic a real drummer, which then can't actually do 3 hits with their hands and the exact same time. Or the choking of any other pad based on the hit of another (that I have seen elsewhere).

    I think the most impressive part for me was that with just a handful of patterns, had you sorted out your probability chains etc, meant you actually got away with a 1/10-th of the patterns needed in other apps for the same thing.

    Also that you could do "additive" (in lack of better word...perhaps "non-destructive"...) copying of patterns, so you could create your base patterns and just having to spend time doing the "flair" hits.

    So, setting up DPP took longer (and the sample handling/interface is a mystery to me to this day), but if you spent the time doing it, and setting up your kits properly, and your patterns library, it was actually faster to work in than most other drum apps, and it yielded sooo much better results.

    It was obvious someone who knew and understood the intricacies of drumming had made it. That isn't to say it was extremely usable, or that it couldn't be improved on. But yeah, I miss DPP greatly, especially now as I'm coming back to music creation and this time around it involves my guitar a lot more than it did a couple of years ago when I mostly had pure-electronic ideas (as that was "new" to me, I'm first and foremost a guitarist) and wish to be able to use my purchased multi-velocity drum samples.

    There's an offer now on 'OneShot Complete' where you get the whole shebang: all (normally, way too expensive) sound libraries and the app in one buy. It's 99$ for desktop and the packs works uni so it might be worth it anyway, if you dabble on desktop as well you shouldn't hesitate. https://klevgrand.com/ Not sure if it's a sale on the iOS app.

    I'm not proud linking to another product from here but, well, read the thread...

  • @Pxlhg wrote:

    I'm sure Mr.Spiegel has a valid excuse for developers (are there a harder life, huh Ed?) treating their customers like this.

    In what way have customers been treated unfairly or poorly here?

    I am disappointed toi that the update isn’t out. I would be willing to bet no one is more disappointed than the developer. I have s en nothing that indicates bad faith.

    The developer didn’t get an update out when he hoped?

    The developer hasn’t been posting about their progress?

    His life may be such that there is very little time to spend working on the app. There may be a family to support, health or job issues.

    Getting the software done right might have turned out to be more work than the dev realized—there are times when you think you are fixing the last few bugs before release and release you have to re-write a significant amount of code because you realize your architecture needs changing.

    If life happens that rewrite might take years — since you might be doing it in your spare time.

  • @espiegel123 said:
    @Pxlhg wrote:

    I'm sure Mr.Spiegel has a valid excuse for developers (are there a harder life, huh Ed?) treating their customers like this.

    In what way have customers been treated unfairly or poorly here?

    I am disappointed toi that the update isn’t out. I would be willing to bet no one is more disappointed than the developer. I have s en nothing that indicates bad faith.

    The developer didn’t get an update out when he hoped?

    The developer hasn’t been posting about their progress?

    His life may be such that there is very little time to spend working on the app. There may be a family to support, health or job issues.

    Getting the software done right might have turned out to be more work than the dev realized—there are times when you think you are fixing the last few bugs before release and release you have to re-write a significant amount of code because you realize your architecture needs changing.

    If life happens that rewrite might take years — since you might be doing it in your spare time.

    It was a semi-joke Ed, don't take your self-acclaimed role as the super hero defender of iOS app developers too serious. 🙄😃
    I wonder if you're as patient in real life with people who say one thing but do another. I usually turn my back on people like that, as will I do here. Baby Audio is in similar position, but at least they update their promises every now and then (still no change though).

    I don't have so much hubris that I think any of them care if I leave or stay.

  • Come on guys, lets just concentrate on what matters here

    DPP sucks :P lol

  • @Pxlhg said:
    There's an offer now on 'OneShot Complete' where you get the whole shebang: all (normally, way too expensive) sound libraries and the app in one buy. It's 99$ for desktop and the packs works uni so it might be worth it anyway, if you dabble on desktop as well you shouldn't hesitate. https://klevgrand.com/ Not sure if it's a sale on the iOS app.

    Yeah, saw that deal and was contemplating it seriously. It is a shame I didn't know of OneShot until the day of the end of the latest sale, then I could have gotten the iPad app and tried it out with my own samples, to see if I think it is worth it. As it stands right now I'd be paying 99+30 for what is essentially a (albeit fully-loaded) drum sample app, but I still don't know if I like it. I shall see what I do.

    One other thing I really loved with DPP was that, with some planning, one could get 24 (up to 32 I guess) instrument slots out of it too. Most sounds like splashes and similar which didn't need 8 velocity samples in any case, could be placed on the same slot, divided by right/left hand. The amount of slots in most other apps are otherwise often what holds me back. If I try to emulate the kit of, say, Gavin Harrison (Porcupine Tree) or Tomas Haake (Meshuggah), 8 instrument slots (quite common number in other apps) simply will not do the job. As 24 slots seem to be both the number I currently use in my main kit in DPP and that also is the number in OneShot...well...tempting. Still, that doesn't "solve" the "advanced sequencing" gap from DPP though.

    I'm normally not a sentimental person though, I usually use whatever currently works, whatever that is at the time, so...

  • One Shot! Complete ay? Sounds great

  • @hellquist said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    There's an offer now on 'OneShot Complete' where you get the whole shebang: all (normally, way too expensive) sound libraries and the app in one buy. It's 99$ for desktop and the packs works uni so it might be worth it anyway, if you dabble on desktop as well you shouldn't hesitate. https://klevgrand.com/ Not sure if it's a sale on the iOS app.

    Yeah, saw that deal and was contemplating it seriously. It is a shame I didn't know of OneShot until the day of the end of the latest sale, then I could have gotten the iPad app and tried it out with my own samples, to see if I think it is worth it. As it stands right now I'd be paying 99+30 for what is essentially a (albeit fully-loaded) drum sample app, but I still don't know if I like it. I shall see what I do.

    One other thing I really loved with DPP was that, with some planning, one could get 24 (up to 32 I guess) instrument slots out of it too. Most sounds like splashes and similar which didn't need 8 velocity samples in any case, could be placed on the same slot, divided by right/left hand. The amount of slots in most other apps are otherwise often what holds me back. If I try to emulate the kit of, say, Gavin Harrison (Porcupine Tree) or Tomas Haake (Meshuggah), 8 instrument slots (quite common number in other apps) simply will not do the job. As 24 slots seem to be both the number I currently use in my main kit in DPP and that also is the number in OneShot...well...tempting. Still, that doesn't "solve" the "advanced sequencing" gap from DPP though.

    I'm normally not a sentimental person though, I usually use whatever currently works, whatever that is at the time, so...

    You actually should be able to use DPPs sequencer to drive OneShot, I haven't tried myself but I'm fairly positive it can be done. I tried Lumbeat apps to drive OneShot and those are a good match. DPP could possibly with all it's option and OneShot being able to respond to most features, if not all, be even better.

    I know I have tried DPP as an engine in the past but think I failed and gave up, but I'm not very good with connections between apps.

  • Hi,

    Maybe keep it close to the op? And I never say that:-)

    I was worried if the two gentlemen behind DPP were still alive. These guys have been doing this a long time and it looks like a labor of love. No update that I know of has been any more money. So I personly would appreciate it if we keep the DPP bashing somewhere else.

    Happy New Year y'all!

  • They are alive
    Just unresponsive
    I still look forward to DPP being optimized
    Been waiting many years for an update
    Meanwhile One Shot! Definitely has removed any desperate urgency for DPP that lingered for years

  • @yellow_eyez : As I said before. Marius is actively working on it now .

  • @Telstar5 said:
    @yellow_eyez : As I said before. Marius is actively working on it now .

    Marius and L’Estat?

    Or marinus and Gilbert?

    Or Gilbert and Sullivan?

    Hehehe

  • Espiegel123:
    How can use the DPP in “Pattern mode” under AUV3?
    I would like to use with Loopy Pro where only change the patterns with Loopy buttons?
    The DPP AUV3 plugin only work in song mode?

  • wimwim
    edited January 30

    @slajgaj - Sorry, but you can't. Only song mode is supported by the player.

    It was announced some time ago that new version with more capabilities is being worked on, but I've not seen any indication of when it will be released.

    You would need to run DPP as an IAA input to be able to switch patterns via MIDI. I've not tried this specifically with Loopy Pro, but pattern changes should be possible that way.

  • @slajgaj said:
    Espiegel123:
    How can use the DPP in “Pattern mode” under AUV3?
    I would like to use with Loopy Pro where only change the patterns with Loopy buttons?
    The DPP AUV3 plugin only work in song mode?

    They haven’t released the version yet with pattern mode in the auv3

  • That was so annoying, when someone posted a demo of how to do pattern work in an AUV3 window, as if it were an actual response to something, and it turned out it was a demo of a feature that not only wasn't available yet, but is still not.

  • Ok thx!
    Release date? 🤪

  • @slajgaj said:
    Ok thx!
    Release date? 🤪

    unknown

  • I will waiting heatedly.
    I love this app, this is the best and to do most things with this app! <3

  • edited February 1

    Anybody help!
    can i insert effect delay only for snare and room reverb to other drum instruments?

  • wimwim
    edited February 2

    @slajgaj, I don't think you can control reverb and delay per drum (which is very surprising).
    [edit] see below. Schooled again. 😂

    Considering some of the questions you've been asking, you might want to take a look at OneShot. It has no sequencer but has the kind of kit control you've been asking about.

  • @wim said:
    @slajgaj, I don't think you can control reverb and delay per drum (which is very surprising).

    Considering some of the questions you've been asking, you might want to take a look at OneShot. It has no sequencer but has the kind of kit control you've been asking about.

    Each individual drum has its own send level to the reverb.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @wim said:
    @slajgaj, I don't think you can control reverb and delay per drum (which is very surprising).

    Considering some of the questions you've been asking, you might want to take a look at OneShot. It has no sequencer but has the kind of kit control you've been asking about.

    Each individual drum has its own send level to the reverb.

    Really? Where? I must be blind today.

  • @wim said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @wim said:
    @slajgaj, I don't think you can control reverb and delay per drum (which is very surprising).

    Considering some of the questions you've been asking, you might want to take a look at OneShot. It has no sequencer but has the kind of kit control you've been asking about.

    Each individual drum has its own send level to the reverb.

    Really? Where? I must be blind today.

    nvm. Found it.
    Kit FX + Send/I buttons.

    Thanks!

  • @wim said:

    @wim said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @wim said:
    @slajgaj, I don't think you can control reverb and delay per drum (which is very surprising).

    Considering some of the questions you've been asking, you might want to take a look at OneShot. It has no sequencer but has the kind of kit control you've been asking about.

    Each individual drum has its own send level to the reverb.

    Really? Where? I must be blind today.

    nvm. Found it.
    Kit FX + Send/I buttons.

    Thanks!

    Great you found it. Yes, it’s in the Mixer view.

  • wimwim
    edited February 2

    @kwinther said:

    @wim said:

    @wim said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @wim said:
    @slajgaj, I don't think you can control reverb and delay per drum (which is very surprising).

    Considering some of the questions you've been asking, you might want to take a look at OneShot. It has no sequencer but has the kind of kit control you've been asking about.

    Each individual drum has its own send level to the reverb.

    Really? Where? I must be blind today.

    nvm. Found it.
    Kit FX + Send/I buttons.

    Thanks!

    Great you found it. Yes, it’s in the Mixer view.

    If the KitFX > Send/I button isn’t engaged on the kit view then the send knobs don’t show in the mixer. It wasn’t engaged so I wasn’t seeing the send knobs. This may be the case for @slajgaj too.

  • @wim said:

    @kwinther said:

    @wim said:

    @wim said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @wim said:
    @slajgaj, I don't think you can control reverb and delay per drum (which is very surprising).

    Considering some of the questions you've been asking, you might want to take a look at OneShot. It has no sequencer but has the kind of kit control you've been asking about.

    Each individual drum has its own send level to the reverb.

    Really? Where? I must be blind today.

    nvm. Found it.
    Kit FX + Send/I buttons.

    Thanks!

    Great you found it. Yes, it’s in the Mixer view.

    If the KitFX > Send/I button isn’t engaged on the kit view then the send knobs don’t show in the mixer. It wasn’t engaged so I wasn’t seeing the send knobs. This may be the case for @slajgaj too.

    Ahh, ok 👍 The button is also in the lower right corner in the Mixer view.

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