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OneShot! by Klevgrand (Desktop available now)

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  • I love the feature of having different choke points for every slot (sample). Overall, a great drum sampler, and congratulations to the Klevgrand team.  🤩

  • @richardyot said:
    I’m guessing $99 is the desktop price, we don’t know what iOS pricing will be yet. I imagine it will be in the $30 to $40 range, my best guess is $39.

    This. Lol.

    I mean desktop music stuff is ridiculously overpriced, thousands for some samples or even modelling etc. Manufactured markets.

    This could be filling the gap pretty much everyone outside of EDM/production has been lamenting for ages on iOS, drum machine with great samples, and import, acoustic drums, round robins and velocity. As long as the round robins are of a good number.

  • @klownshed said:
    They lost me the second he started playing that awful electric piano part :lol:

    God I hate the electric piano. Maybe because almost everybody that plays one needs to show you how many chords they know and make sure they use all of them in every song. Yeuch.

    It has nothing to do with OneShot, but I’m with you regarding the electric piano. In comparison to the genuine live sound of the piano, I dislike every recorded or sampled piano sound in existence. It's totally the same if it is syntetic or sampled for me. 🫣

    On the other hand, I love everything synthetic in its own merit. So, who is the first, chicken or egg? Haha!

  • @klownshed said:

    @Luxthor said:

    They lost me the second he started playing that awful electric piano part :lol:

    God I hate the electric piano. Maybe because almost everybody that plays one needs to show you how many chords they know and make sure they use all of them in every song. Yeuch.

    Wow, really? I was surprised that he sounded so good…

  • This could be filling the gap pretty much everyone outside of EDM/production has been lamenting for ages on iOS, drum machine with great samples, and import, acoustic drums, round robins and velocity. As long as the round robins are of a good number.

    💯

  • @wingwizard said:

    I mean desktop music stuff is ridiculously overpriced, thousands for some samples or even modelling etc. Manufactured markets.

    It can be.

    But it's also possible to get eveything you might need for free on desktop too.

    And there are crazy sales all the time; Most plug-ins seem to hit $29 at some point thanks to the Waves model maybe. My average cost for a PA plug-in is less than £5. That's cheaper than iOS. I got a load of Unfiltered audio plug-ins for free in PA sales for example. The amount of quality free plug-ins I have got on desktop is way more than for iOS.

    The desktop market is cut throat. There are constantly huge sales on, with sites like Pluginboutique having huge deals all the time and you get freebies with each purchase. This month you get Universal Audio Polymax synth or Pulsar Audio W495 for free. Both quality plug-ins that have sold for £100s. With any purchase, no minimum spend.

    The sheer amount of sample content available for free on desktop is incredible. Like Spitfire Labs.

    But yeah, having the exact same plug-in for iOS for a fraction of the normal desktop price is great.

    One this that is pretty annoying though, is that you can buy, say, an Audio Damage plug-in for desktop and you get it for Windows, Mac and Linux. But you have to buy the iOS one separately.

    So props to developers such as IceGear and Moog (previously anyway) that make their plug-ins universal. I tend to mainly buy iOS plug-ins that are available on desktop too now, so Icegear get returning trade.

  • @Luxthor said:

    @klownshed said:
    They lost me the second he started playing that awful electric piano part :lol:

    God I hate the electric piano. Maybe because almost everybody that plays one needs to show you how many chords they know and make sure they use all of them in every song. Yeuch.

    It has nothing to do with OneShot, but I’m with you regarding the electric piano. In comparison to the genuine live sound of the piano, I dislike every recorded or sampled piano sound in existence. It's totally the same if it is syntetic or sampled for me. 🫣

    On the other hand, I love everything synthetic in its own merit. So, who is the first, chicken or egg? Haha!

    It made me switch off the video so I didn't get to hear OneShot! ;-)

  • edited February 22

    @Telstar5 said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Luxthor said:

    They lost me the second he started playing that awful electric piano part :lol:

    God I hate the electric piano. Maybe because almost everybody that plays one needs to show you how many chords they know and make sure they use all of them in every song. Yeuch.

    Wow, really? I was surprised that he sounded so good…

    I don't expect everybody to share my taste :-)

    But yeah. I hate that style of music.

  • @klownshed said:

    @Luxthor said:

    They lost me the second he started playing that awful electric piano part :lol:

    God I hate the electric piano. Maybe because almost everybody that plays one needs to show you how many chords they know and make sure they use all of them in every song. Yeuch.

    I love the electric piano, one of my favourite sounds :)

    It can be used tastefully, for example:

    And of course:

    I've used it in quite a few of my own songs, it doesn't have to have that easy listening vibe, you can make it sound dark and broody.

  • edited February 22

    @richardyot said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Luxthor said:

    They lost me the second he started playing that awful electric piano part :lol:

    God I hate the electric piano. Maybe because almost everybody that plays one needs to show you how many chords they know and make sure they use all of them in every song. Yeuch.

    I love the electric piano, one of my favourite sounds :)

    It can be used tastefully, for example:

    And of course:

    I've used it in quite a few of my own songs, it doesn't have to have that easy listening vibe, you can make it sound dark and broody.

    I know. I was being hyperbolic :-)

    It's the style of music I don't like -- It goes back to when everybody used the default DX7 electric piano on the worst hits of the 80s. It does turn me off the sound a little bit, but any sound can be used well or subjectively badly.

    I love the electric guitar, but almost every guitar part played in demo videos for, say, a pedal gives me the same kind of shivers. In a bad way!

  • @klownshed said:

    @wingwizard said:

    I mean desktop music stuff is ridiculously overpriced, thousands for some samples or even modelling etc. Manufactured markets.

    It can be.

    But it's also possible to get eveything you might need for free on desktop too.

    And there are crazy sales all the time; Most plug-ins seem to hit $29 at some point thanks to the Waves model maybe. My average cost for a PA plug-in is less than £5. That's cheaper than iOS. I got a load of Unfiltered audio plug-ins for free in PA sales for example. The amount of quality free plug-ins I have got on desktop is way more than for iOS.

    The desktop market is cut throat. There are constantly huge sales on, with sites like Pluginboutique having huge deals all the time and you get freebies with each purchase. This month you get Universal Audio Polymax synth or Pulsar Audio W495 for free. Both quality plug-ins that have sold for £100s. With any purchase, no minimum spend.

    The sheer amount of sample content available for free on desktop is incredible. Like Spitfire Labs.

    But yeah, having the exact same plug-in for iOS for a fraction of the normal desktop price is great.

    One this that is pretty annoying though, is that you can buy, say, an Audio Damage plug-in for desktop and you get it for Windows, Mac and Linux. But you have to buy the iOS one separately.

    So props to developers such as IceGear and Moog (previously anyway) that make their plug-ins universal. I tend to mainly buy iOS plug-ins that are available on desktop too now, so Icegear get returning trade.

    All very true. iOS can be cheap if you exercise self control. But if you buy everything available, or almost everything available, at full price, you can easy spend $10k over the course of a few years.

  • edited February 22

    @klownshed said:

    @richardyot said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Luxthor said:

    They lost me the second he started playing that awful electric piano part :lol:

    God I hate the electric piano. Maybe because almost everybody that plays one needs to show you how many chords they know and make sure they use all of them in every song. Yeuch.

    I love the electric piano, one of my favourite sounds :)

    It can be used tastefully, for example:

    And of course:

    I've used it in quite a few of my own songs, it doesn't have to have that easy listening vibe, you can make it sound dark and broody.

    I know. I was being hyperbolic :-)

    It's the style of music I don't like -- It goes back to when everybody used the default DX7 electric piano on the worst hits of the 80s. It does turn me off the sound a little bit, but any sound can be used well or subjectively badly.

    I love the electric guitar, but almost every guitar part played in demo videos for, say, a pedal gives me the same kind of shivers. In a bad way!

    I feel the same way about guitar demos, and come to think of it I'm not sure I've ever heard the DX7 being used tastefully - but maybe there is track somewhere where it doesn't sound like cheese* :D

    *Excluding Trent Reznor I guess

  • @richardyot said:
    I love the electric piano, one of my favourite sounds :)

    It was nerdgasm about the detail in the video, but thank you for linking Green Onions! It's a freaking good vibe, epic evergreen. 🤩

  • @Luxthor said:

    @richardyot said:
    I love the electric piano, one of my favourite sounds :)

    It was nerdgasm about the detail in the video, but thank you for linking Green Onions! It's a freaking good vibe, epic evergreen. 🤩

    I know, and I was being even more nerdy about tracks I like with electric piano (of which there are very many). Neil Young's See The Sky About To Rain is another favourite. What I like about the E. piano is that it doesn't really sound "rock", that Neil Young song hasn't really dated in the same way guitar tracks have, it could have been released yesterday rather than 50 years ago.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @klownshed said:

    @wingwizard said:

    I mean desktop music stuff is ridiculously overpriced, thousands for some samples or even modelling etc. Manufactured markets.

    It can be.

    But it's also possible to get eveything you might need for free on desktop too.

    And there are crazy sales all the time; Most plug-ins seem to hit $29 at some point thanks to the Waves model maybe. My average cost for a PA plug-in is less than £5. That's cheaper than iOS. I got a load of Unfiltered audio plug-ins for free in PA sales for example. The amount of quality free plug-ins I have got on desktop is way more than for iOS.

    The desktop market is cut throat. There are constantly huge sales on, with sites like Pluginboutique having huge deals all the time and you get freebies with each purchase. This month you get Universal Audio Polymax synth or Pulsar Audio W495 for free. Both quality plug-ins that have sold for £100s. With any purchase, no minimum spend.

    The sheer amount of sample content available for free on desktop is incredible. Like Spitfire Labs.

    But yeah, having the exact same plug-in for iOS for a fraction of the normal desktop price is great.

    One this that is pretty annoying though, is that you can buy, say, an Audio Damage plug-in for desktop and you get it for Windows, Mac and Linux. But you have to buy the iOS one separately.

    So props to developers such as IceGear and Moog (previously anyway) that make their plug-ins universal. I tend to mainly buy iOS plug-ins that are available on desktop too now, so Icegear get returning trade.

    All very true. iOS can be cheap if you exercise self control. But if you buy everything available, or almost everything available, at full price, you can easy spend $10k over the course of a few years.

    Logic is $49 a year on iPad. I paid £199 for Logic on the Mac. 10 years ago. I'm still up to date and haven't spent a penny extra so that's £19.90 a year for me so far.

    On iOS I have spent a fortune over the years chasing an ideal that I never quite found. Using AUM meant having to buy sequencers, synths, etc. to try and make an environment I could actually make music in. I think that can be chalked up as a bit of a failure on my part. Others on this forum will clearly and obviously have the opposite experience.

    I've probably wasted more money on iOS on apps I've never got any use out of but bought because they were cheap and I thought I might get some use out of them one day. But didn't. The plug-ins I've spent serious money on desktop all tend to get used extensively. And when you can get Arturia V-Collection for less than £200 on sale, you get top quality synths for iOS money per plug-in. Even though many of the plug-ins in the V collection do collect digital dust, I get more than enough out of the ones I do use to make it worth the money.

    But basically, even though a plug-in on desktop that has an equivalent on iOS is usually at least double the price, it doesn't mean desktop is more expensive overall. In my experience it can be just as cheap and is often much cheaper due to the constant sales and sites that bundle and do giveaways. I recently got Cherry audio PS-20 and G-Force ImpOSCar free with a magazine for example. Humble bundle did a bundle that had a bunch of Cherry audio synths for £16. I think it was 5 CA plugins IIRC (I gave away a few of them as I had them already).

    Another example. I got D16 Nepheton (808 clone) for free. It recently got upgraded and the upgrade was about £24. Same goes for their 909. And they are excellent plug-ins that usually sell for >$100.

    I got almost everything IK Multimedia made for desktop for £109 in the 25 year group buy. And that included a hardware analogue synth. B3 costs almost that on its own on iOS. Let alone all of T-Racks (at the time), Amplitube, 99% of all the Sampletank libs, Syntronik Deluxe, Mixbox, etc. plus loads more I can't even remember.

    So yeah. From my experience the iPad is not necessarily cheaper overall than desktop if you shop around and buy wisely. Being a sales-ninja helps LoL.

  • @richardyot said:

    @klownshed said:

    @richardyot said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Luxthor said:

    They lost me the second he started playing that awful electric piano part :lol:

    God I hate the electric piano. Maybe because almost everybody that plays one needs to show you how many chords they know and make sure they use all of them in every song. Yeuch.

    I love the electric piano, one of my favourite sounds :)

    It can be used tastefully, for example:

    And of course:

    I've used it in quite a few of my own songs, it doesn't have to have that easy listening vibe, you can make it sound dark and broody.

    I know. I was being hyperbolic :-)

    It's the style of music I don't like -- It goes back to when everybody used the default DX7 electric piano on the worst hits of the 80s. It does turn me off the sound a little bit, but any sound can be used well or subjectively badly.

    I love the electric guitar, but almost every guitar part played in demo videos for, say, a pedal gives me the same kind of shivers. In a bad way!

    I feel the same way about guitar demos, and come to think of it I'm not sure I've ever heard the DX7 being used tastefully - but maybe there is track somewhere where it doesn't sound like cheese* :D

    *Excluding Trent Reznor I guess

    Haha yeah. I think the only actual sound Trent ever got out a DX7 directly was the noise they made when he smashed them to bits on stage!

  • I love the sound of the DX7 (and my beloved KQ Dixie) 🥺

  • @klownshed said:

    @richardyot said:

    @klownshed said:

    @richardyot said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Luxthor said:

    They lost me the second he started playing that awful electric piano part :lol:

    God I hate the electric piano. Maybe because almost everybody that plays one needs to show you how many chords they know and make sure they use all of them in every song. Yeuch.

    I love the electric piano, one of my favourite sounds :)

    It can be used tastefully, for example:

    And of course:

    I've used it in quite a few of my own songs, it doesn't have to have that easy listening vibe, you can make it sound dark and broody.

    I know. I was being hyperbolic :-)

    It's the style of music I don't like -- It goes back to when everybody used the default DX7 electric piano on the worst hits of the 80s. It does turn me off the sound a little bit, but any sound can be used well or subjectively badly.

    I love the electric guitar, but almost every guitar part played in demo videos for, say, a pedal gives me the same kind of shivers. In a bad way!

    I feel the same way about guitar demos, and come to think of it I'm not sure I've ever heard the DX7 being used tastefully - but maybe there is track somewhere where it doesn't sound like cheese* :D

    *Excluding Trent Reznor I guess

    Haha yeah. I think the only actual sound Trent ever got out a DX7 directly was the noise they made when he smashed them to bits on stage!

    He only used it as a controller? That would make sense 😅

  • @richardyot said:

    @klownshed said:

    @richardyot said:

    @klownshed said:

    @richardyot said:

    @klownshed said:

    @Luxthor said:

    They lost me the second he started playing that awful electric piano part :lol:

    God I hate the electric piano. Maybe because almost everybody that plays one needs to show you how many chords they know and make sure they use all of them in every song. Yeuch.

    I love the electric piano, one of my favourite sounds :)

    It can be used tastefully, for example:

    And of course:

    I've used it in quite a few of my own songs, it doesn't have to have that easy listening vibe, you can make it sound dark and broody.

    I know. I was being hyperbolic :-)

    It's the style of music I don't like -- It goes back to when everybody used the default DX7 electric piano on the worst hits of the 80s. It does turn me off the sound a little bit, but any sound can be used well or subjectively badly.

    I love the electric guitar, but almost every guitar part played in demo videos for, say, a pedal gives me the same kind of shivers. In a bad way!

    I feel the same way about guitar demos, and come to think of it I'm not sure I've ever heard the DX7 being used tastefully - but maybe there is track somewhere where it doesn't sound like cheese* :D

    *Excluding Trent Reznor I guess

    Haha yeah. I think the only actual sound Trent ever got out a DX7 directly was the noise they made when he smashed them to bits on stage!

    He only used it as a controller? That would make sense 😅

    I think so. He had dozens of them and smashed them all up!

  • This costs more than I paid for Triaz on desktop. Luckily, I have Triaz on desktop.

  • Hopefully this does come to iPhone and not just to iPad. Honestly I've been looking to move away from NS2 to Cubasis 3, and OneShot! could jolly well fill that void of not having a Slate AUv3.

  • edited February 22

    Excited about this one!.

    Super realictic drums with velocity layering, round robin, humanize and choking

    *Typo not mine.
    We definitely need this on iOS. We have samplers like Auidolayer but they’re not specific for drums, are cumbersome to setup and no multi-out.
    Digistix, super powerful but I can’t stand the UI.
    Of course, we have Drambo, which is what I’ve been using. But it’s too much work. Getting choke groups working, adding samples, etc… it takes too much time.

    Add your own samples easily by using drag-and-drop
    Smart sorting when importing several instruments at once

    If they get 👆these right I’m all in. Should be able to drop in a Drumdrops libarary (or Samples from mars or whichever) and if it can read the names and velocities to aid in creating a kit, it’d be so worth it.
    I wonder if you can do both velocity layers AND round-robin.

    BTW the “trailer” video on their site showcases a horrible digital Drumkit, hardly the right choice IMHO,

  • @klownshed said:

    It's the style of music I don't like -- It goes back to when everybody used the default DX7 electric piano on the worst hits of the 80s. It does turn me off the sound a little bit, but any sound can be used well or subjectively badly.

    I love the electric guitar, but almost every guitar part played in demo videos for, say, a pedal gives me the same kind of shivers. In a bad way!

    Yeah, I'd wager it's possible that people have used the electric piano in ways that are pleasing to you. Here's some electric piano bangers that might be closer to home:

    That Archive track is positively jazzy (runs away). I think they peaked with their jazz-prog-hop debut, which features a Rhodes on practically every track.

    Sorry to derail, all. 🤪

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Hopefully this does come to iPhone and not just to iPad. Honestly I've been looking to move away from NS2 to Cubasis 3, and OneShot! could jolly well fill that void of not having a Slate AUv3.

    I tried the same but somehow end up starting in NS2/Drambo again and sometimes for bigger audio files CB3/Loopy/Logic. I’m always impressed by what you create in NS2!

    Yeah Oneshot could be maybe a good Slate replacer :) Really liking their other percussion stuff.

  • edited February 22

    This would be much more interest on iOS where there's not much competition for multi-velocity layered drum sampling.

    On desktop most DAWs come with samplers with that built in. Plus all the other drum libraries you can get come ready mapped. Not sure I'd ever want to make my own multi velocity sampled drum patches either.

    There's not so much of that available on iOS so it could be a winner on the iPad.

    I use Atlas on desktop. It's fantastic in managing the decades worth of drum hit samples I've collected and making them all useful again. But no velocity layering (which doesn't worry me as my samples are 99% fake drums anyway!).

  • I love Archive. They have their moments of OTT self indulgence but at their best they’re very good indeed.

  • @Nathi94 said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Hopefully this does come to iPhone and not just to iPad. Honestly I've been looking to move away from NS2 to Cubasis 3, and OneShot! could jolly well fill that void of not having a Slate AUv3.

    I tried the same but somehow end up starting in NS2/Drambo again and sometimes for bigger audio files CB3/Loopy/Logic. I’m always impressed by what you create in NS2!

    Thank you. :) Well NS2 is amazing, and I'll never stop using it, but right now it's not getting any updates outside of the odd maintenance update here and there. Once the maintenance updates cease, then what will I do? 🤷‍♂️ So it's good I keep my options open.

    Yeah Oneshot could be maybe a good Slate replacer :) Really liking their other percussion stuff.

    Seems like Oneshot can do a bit more than Slate to if I'm being at all honest. As far as I know, Slate doesn't have round robins.

  • Thread about a new drum sampler app devolves into the a debate around the validity of the electric piano in music. CLASSIC AB forum behavior lol.

    Back on topic: For desktop this doesn’t seem all that novel, but depending on how deep it goes this could potentially fill that superior drummer/addictive drums hole that has yet to be addressed. I’ll definitely be interested when they release the auv3 and what the iOS pricing is.

  • @tahiche said:
    Excited about this one!.

    Super realictic drums with velocity layering, round robin, humanize and choking

    *Typo not mine.
    We definitely need this on iOS. We have samplers like Auidolayer but they’re not specific for drums, are cumbersome to setup and no multi-out.
    Digistix, super powerful but I can’t stand the UI.
    Of course, we have Drambo, which is what I’ve been using. But it’s too much work. Getting choke groups working, adding samples, etc… it takes too much time.

    Add your own samples easily by using drag-and-drop
    Smart sorting when importing several instruments at once

    If they get 👆these right I’m all in. Should be able to drop in a Drumdrops libarary (or Samples from mars or whichever) and if it can read the names and velocities to aid in creating a kit, it’d be so worth it.
    I wonder if you can do both velocity layers AND round-robin.

    BTW the “trailer” video on their site showcases a horrible digital Drumkit, hardly the right choice IMHO,

    That !!! Very excited about this one too, for Big acoustic drums libraries. Hoping their is no limitation in the number of samples per slots and that they have at least 3 round robins per velocity range 🤞

  • @jebni said:

    @klownshed said:

    It's the style of music I don't like -- It goes back to when everybody used the default DX7 electric piano on the worst hits of the 80s. It does turn me off the sound a little bit, but any sound can be used well or subjectively badly.

    I love the electric guitar, but almost every guitar part played in demo videos for, say, a pedal gives me the same kind of shivers. In a bad way!

    Yeah, I'd wager it's possible that people have used the electric piano in ways that are pleasing to you. Here's some electric piano bangers that might be closer to home:

    That Archive track is positively jazzy (runs away). I think they peaked with their jazz-prog-hop debut, which features a Rhodes on practically every track.

    Sorry to derail, all. 🤪

    With such a great refined selection, please feel free to derail anytime !

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