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fmQT: FM Synth by Dahlia Sabin (Released)

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  • edited March 12

    Just want to reinforce how much fun I’m having with this app, and its very intuitive knob macros. If only AUM could implement something similar!

    I hope, @dahliasabin, that fmQT is just the beginning of a beautiful relationship between you and the experimental IOS music app world… Looking forward to, I dunno, a granular effect with a My Little Pony aesthetic! :)

  • @Svetlovska said:
    Just want to reinforce how much fun I’m having with this app, and its very intuitive knob macros. If only AUM could implement something similar!

    I hope, @dahliasabin, that fmQT is just the beginning of a beautiful relationship between you and the experimental IOS music app world… Looking forward to, I dunno, a granular effect with a My Little Pony aesthetic! :)

    Awww thank you for sharing your experience, it makes me so happy that you're getting a lot of use out of it! 🥲

    Honestly I prefer the knob functionality as well.. I feel like you can almost 'draw' the modulation with your finger.

    Oh yes, creating a granular synthesis app is a big dream of mine! 😍

  • @dahliasabin said:

    @Gavinski said:
    The knobs behaviour is not a garageband issue, don't worry, it's the same in AUM. Hopefully Dahlia can find a way to provide linear control options for the knobs, and to make fine adjustments possible near the extremes of the knobs. Currently it can be very difficult to dial in values with accuracy, especially at the start / end of the knob range.

    Truthfully, implementing linear control for the knobs is not an issue for me and can be achieved quickly. However, it is a major change to the way people will interact with the app and I'm just a little hesitant to change this behavior for all users, if most people are happy with it currently. Perhaps I will do a poll, or consider a settings screen with the option for this if this is a problem for some users. Still brainstorming 🧠

    Thanks Dahlia, a poll would be a good idea. But it can also be offered as an option maybe? Some devs do that. They offer a choice of horizontal, vertical, both, or rotary. But what I think really does need to change is that it really is impossible to dial in the values near start / end of a knob with speed and accuracy. More generally, although it might be easy to change it to linear, it is clearly not easy to set things up so that the user can dial things in accurately and quickly, as so many apps suffer in this respect. @SevenSystems has been discussing how to do good sliders here recently, maybe he has some thoughts to share on knobs too, he's passionate about this topic! 🙏

  • @dahliasabin said:

    @Svetlovska said:
    Just want to reinforce how much fun I’m having with this app, and its very intuitive knob macros. If only AUM could implement something similar!

    I hope, @dahliasabin, that fmQT is just the beginning of a beautiful relationship between you and the experimental IOS music app world… Looking forward to, I dunno, a granular effect with a My Little Pony aesthetic! :)

    Awww thank you for sharing your experience, it makes me so happy that you're getting a lot of use out of it! 🥲

    Honestly I prefer the knob functionality as well.. I feel like you can almost 'draw' the modulation with your finger.

    Oh yes, creating a granular synthesis app is a big dream of mine! 😍

    I also love being able to draw in the knob modulation, that's a great feature!

  • Yes! Drawing the modulation by knob twiddling is exactly what I did on the first piece I made with it, and I love that I could go back and forth refining the twiddle until I got it where I wanted. This interactive, iterative thing is what I keep hoping @j_liljedahl will one day implement in AUM. You don’t need anything complicated like editable timelines or whatever, just a loop macro recorder to capture the motion of the knobs - just as you have achieved here. Simple and brilliant.

  • @Svetlovska said:
    Yes! Drawing the modulation by knob twiddling is exactly what I did on the first piece I made with it, and I love that I could go back and forth refining the twiddle until I got it where I wanted. This interactive, iterative thing is what I keep hoping @j_liljedahl will one day implement in AUM. You don’t need anything complicated like editable timelines or whatever, just a loop macro recorder to capture the motion of the knobs - just as you have achieved here. Simple and brilliant.

    Exactly, that would be a killer addition to aum while waiting for the more sophisticated automation implementation that I think is on the roadmap. An elegant way to set an automation loop time, synced or free, for each separate auv3 in AUM would be the icing on the cake

  • @dahliasabin said:
    @Fear2Stop

    I sincerely apologize you are still facing issues with the app in Garageband 😕 I think I now have a better understanding of the issue and will continue to look into it! 👩‍💻

    *fingers crossed *

  • edited March 13

    @dahliasabin said:

    @Gavinski said:
    The knobs behaviour is not a garageband issue, don't worry, it's the same in AUM. Hopefully Dahlia can find a way to provide linear control options for the knobs, and to make fine adjustments possible near the extremes of the knobs. Currently it can be very difficult to dial in values with accuracy, especially at the start / end of the knob range.

    Truthfully, implementing linear control for the knobs is not an issue for me and can be achieved quickly. However, it is a major change to the way people will interact with the app and I'm just a little hesitant to change this behavior for all users, if most people are happy with it currently. Perhaps I will do a poll, or consider a settings screen with the option for this if this is a problem for some users. Still brainstorming 🧠

    Sometimes developers offer both as options (whether dials are operated in a linear fashion or if they operate in a circular motion). This might be too much to manage for your particular app, so it's probably best to poll the users.

    EDIT: Looks like others have already raised this issue.

  • I will say the knob behavior is extremely fiddly for me to the point where they might as well be random

  • The poll regarding knob behavior is live on my instagram! https://instagram.com/dahliafaesabin/

  • edited March 15

    @dahliasabin said:
    The poll regarding knob behavior is live on my instagram! https://instagram.com/dahliafaesabin/

    Could you link to the poll page specifically, I was at your main page but don't see it, clicked a few various posts but gave up.

    Edit: there's also an option to start a poll here, at the forum

  • @Pxlhg said:

    @dahliasabin said:
    The poll regarding knob behavior is live on my instagram! https://instagram.com/dahliafaesabin/

    Could you link to the poll page specifically, I was at your main page but don't see it, clicked a few various posts but gave up.

    Edit: there's also an option to start a poll here, at the forum

    Me too! Thought I was missing something obvious...
    Gotta say I find the knob behaviour horrendous.

  • @Pxlhg said:

    @dahliasabin said:
    The poll regarding knob behavior is live on my instagram! https://instagram.com/dahliafaesabin/

    Could you link to the poll page specifically, I was at your main page but don't see it, clicked a few various posts but gave up.

    Edit: there's also an option to start a poll here, at the forum

    @FPC said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @dahliasabin said:
    The poll regarding knob behavior is live on my instagram! https://instagram.com/dahliafaesabin/

    Could you link to the poll page specifically, I was at your main page but don't see it, clicked a few various posts but gave up.

    Edit: there's also an option to start a poll here, at the forum

    Me too! Thought I was missing something obvious...
    Gotta say I find the knob behaviour horrendous.

    Sorry, the poll is in my instagram story. How do I make a poll here?

  • edited March 15

    Just wanted to add a video of the knob behaviour (unlisted). For me this is just not usable and I lose my temper. Poll or no poll 😃

  • @Pxlhg said:
    Just wanted to add a video of the knob behaviour (unlisted). For me this is just not usable and I lose my temper. Poll or no poll 😃

    It follows your finger/pencil's placement on the knob. In other words, the knob indicator is always pointing at your finger/pencil when the knob is touched or dragged.

  • @Pxlhg said:
    Just wanted to add a video of the knob behaviour (unlisted). For me this is just not usable and I lose my temper. Poll or no poll 😃

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  • @dahliasabin said:

    Sorry, the poll is in my instagram story. How do I make a poll here?

    I think when you start a new thread you get the option to add a poll, I've never done one so not 100%

  • @Pxlhg said:
    Just wanted to add a video of the knob behaviour (unlisted). For me this is just not usable and I lose my temper. Poll or no poll 😃

    I don’t blame you …I can’t even USE the app yet but if I could the knobs would drive me nuts too

  • @Fear2Stop said:
    I don’t blame you …I can’t even USE the app yet but if I could the knobs would drive me nuts too

    Hey, what’s preventing you from using the app? Is it just the GarageBand issue? Is there anything else?

    Please let me know, I will try to tackle it again over the next couple of days.

  • Also just to confirm with everyone - I will change the knobs over the weekend as well. Do we want vertical linear style?

  • @dahliasabin said:

    @Fear2Stop said:
    I don’t blame you …I can’t even USE the app yet but if I could the knobs would drive me nuts too

    Hey, what’s preventing you from using the app? Is it just the GarageBand issue? Is there anything else?

    Please let me know, I will try to tackle it again over the next couple of days.

    Yeah it not working in GarageBand is not good as that’s the daw I use to record my parts for my band’s music ; it works in standalone but I have no reason to use it in standalone .

  • @dahliasabin said:
    Also just to confirm with everyone - I will change the knobs over the weekend as well. Do we want vertical linear style?

    That would be great Dahlia, thanks. Could you please also make it so that they don't have that springy action near their limits, which currently makes it extremely difficult to quickly and accurately dial in values near the start or end of a knob? 🙏

  • @Gavinski said:

    @dahliasabin said:
    Also just to confirm with everyone - I will change the knobs over the weekend as well. Do we want vertical linear style?

    That would be great Dahlia, thanks. Could you please also make it so that they don't have that springy action near their limits, which currently makes it extremely difficult to quickly and accurately dial in values near the start or end of a knob? 🙏

    ^This

  • fmQT version 1.2 is now processing with Apple:

    This version includes:

    1. Vertical and horizontal rotation implementation for all knobs.
    2. Optimization of audio engine to reduce volume drops and undesired playback glitching.
    3. Improvement to parameter value labels.
    4. Enhancements to AUv3 on mobile devies.

    What I’m working on next:

    1. Preset Management
    2. Saving/restoring app state in DAWs
    3. MIDI Assignment
    4. Parameter Randomization
  • @dahliasabin said:
    fmQT version 1.2 is now processing with Apple:

    This version includes:

    1. Vertical and horizontal rotation implementation for all knobs.
    2. Optimization of audio engine to reduce volume drops and undesired playback glitching.
    3. Improvement to parameter value labels.
    4. Enhancements to AUv3 on mobile devies.

    What I’m working on next:

    1. Preset Management
    2. Saving/restoring app state in DAWs
    3. MIDI Assignment
    4. Parameter Randomization

    Thank you Dahlia!

  • fmQT version 1.2 is available now! ✨

  • Soooo much better! Thank you!😃

  • Awesome…gonna try it in a few hours!

  • Works better but there is still lag and occasionally it will miss a note I’m playing . I have a workaround by playing something in a different AU and copy/pasting into this app. The lag is most apparent when I go to adjust the volume in the track ; it cause GarageBand to stutter for a bit .

    Dials are MUCH better

  • edited March 20

    @dahliasabin thank you so much for the change to knob behavior. It's much easier to work with the parameters now!

    I think most of us would love if the knobs had a finer control granularity so that we could move things in more subtle increments... I could imagine this as either making the knobs "slower" when tweaking them, or even having a toggle for normal vs fine control. I often don't want my carrier or ratio to jump in huge increments, and I'm finding it hard to dial in more nuanced, precise changes. You allow a broad range of parameter adjustment which a lot of synths don't provide... But this also means that the knobs will jump increments very quickly since there's such a broad range for them to cover.

    Also, have you considered having the sequencer operate at lower (and maybe higher) rates? I use your synth to layer texture/ambience, and having the sequencer play at whole notes or even slower would make the synth a fantastic texture machine for compositions that move at a more gradual pace.

    Thanks for listening!

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