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Yup lol (i mean I get your point but if it’s worth it to those users then that’s ok for them - I myself would never use AI and I wouldn’t pay for it either but I don’t mind that the option exists for others ).
I’m Cubasis all the way since seeing the update drop. I hope they keep it up.
Full disclosure: the only reason I can come to terms with any disparity is because On desktop I’m Logic Pro 11 all the way lol
Hey yeah - I forgot that. No cost at all to check it out!
If you buy Cubasis you only pay once. Not so with Logic…
Yep, this point has been brought up multiple times in this thread already, lol. When I did my little comparison, I avoided talking about the price since it's been talked about to death by this point.
But, I will say, if a person is simply a music hobbyist, then yeah it would be difficult to justify the monthly subscription. But for professionals like me, it is worth the monthly sub just for recording from my OP-1 Field and mastering my music without me having to do any guesswork.
While I wouldn’t call Loopy Pro a DAW at this stage , it is FAR more than a looper. It is a highly configurable multi-track audio recorder (loops and linear recording both possible) with integrated configurable work surface that includes a simple linear track sequencer. It doesn’t have automation or traditional linear audio editing yet.
It is pretty straightforward for basic tracking. And features like retrospective recording are incredibly handy when working out parts. I know of several people that do their basic tracking and arranging in it and export stems to a traditional DAW for mixing.
What is retrospective recording ? Ant exemples in YouTube ?
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Ok, so you never hire a car?
You never hire an hotel room?
You have never living in a rental apartment?
Sure, Cubasis can be bought, but, you will certainly need to pay again when Cubasis reach version 4 in near future…
No you won't. You will still be able to continue to use Cubasis 3 without ongoing payments.
That's the point - as soon as you stop paying rent Logic won't work.
That’s true!
But for us with dual setup Logic Pro, we continue our projects on our Macs until we will continue paying for Logic iPad…
Hold in mind one thing - if now Cubasis (or the other DAWs on iOS) was as powerful as Logic Pro, Apple would certainly lost 80% of the subscription customers…
As an whole package (around 30GB) Logic Pro is unbeatable with it’s onboard instruments, loops etc etc - but, Logic Pro isn’t for all users of iOS and I welcome more competitions between the companies/developers so we can raise the bar more in the future.
Loopy pro is my main production environment now and i would agree with the above statement. Its not quite a daw yet but its moving there FAST. Midi recording and looping, and automation are arriving soon which will put it firmly in DAW territory.
Full linear timeline workflows are not my thing usually, but if is yours then Audio Evolution mobile studio should probably go in the ring too. Its pretty complete, cheap, and stable. Sounds like a big update is on the way too.
I think if anyone wants to make their DAW choice primarily on the basis of the licensing model (which is fine), then that conversation has already been repeated ad nauseam and I think everyone has all the information they need to make that choice for themself. This thread has been an interesting conversation about relative technical merits and workflow differences, and I think that's a much more interesting topic.
Agreed.
If/when timeline audio editing and automation of auv3fx drops I will certainly jump in.
I agree. Licensing models don't interest me and have been discussed at length since May 6th last year when Logic Pro for iPad was first announced.
Seeing what others think is personally right for them based on technical merits is far more fascinating and produces far more insightful and fruitful discussion.
One thing Logic’s subscription is doing is demonstrating these kinds of apps have value.
People are often complaining about iOS pricing being too low to sustain development of audio apps. Many of the more ambitious apps have been mothballed. NS-2, Auria Pro and BM3 are three of the ‘bigger’ DAW Type apps on iOS and all of them have pretty much ceased development. To name just three.
Low cost isn’t sustainable for these kinds of apps. They’re not like releasing a simple chorus plugin... Apple showing what they think a DAW is worth in iOS is a good start. Compared to desktop prices £5 a month is cheap.
Reason Plus is £20 a month for example. Or £499 outright. Or over 8 years of Logic on iPad. And in 8 years the version of Reason you bought almost certainly won’t still work and the upgrades are £199 from previous versions.
I have spent more on updating Reason than Logic Pro X cost me since I bought Logic. That’s upgrading not buying outright. And I only bought the upgrades when they were on sale.
Whatever you buy outright will stop working sooner rather than later unless you keep it updated.
I can understand the hostility towards subs but I’d rather subscribe to logic than not have it available at all. I wouldn’t subscribe to plugins though.
Cost wise I think it’s a pretty great deal compared to desktop. Logic on the Mac is a particularly great bargain though — I paid £199 in 2014 and it’s still fully up do date. Over that time Reason, for example, would have cost me well over a grand to stay up to date.
The maths for Logic add up. And you’re much more likely to get an app that isn’t abandoned if it’s on a sub. Unfortunately.
Yeah, but it’s hard to not want to vent about it in the case of Logic, particularly as many of us paid for Logic once on Mac and have had years of use with no additional payments.
I think everyone understands why some companies move to subscription models, but understanding it doesn’t make it any more palatable.
True, but maybe there should be a dedicated easily-ignorable thread dedicated to hatred of Logic's subscription model so that other Logic-based threads can focus on technical aspects and such. 😉
I went from Auria initially, to Cubasis for the last few years, and now I’m finally diving in deep on Logic. I think Cubasis (and Auria even more) is a much more focused workflow, which is both a good and a bad thing IMO. It’s simple and quick to get stuff done in Cubasis, but when you want to get a bit more complex you tend to reach for third party apps. Navigation is intuitive, there’s not too many rabbit holes to go down.
Logic gives you so much damn stuff that you rarely really NEED to leave their walled garden if you don’t want to though. It’s definitely the more complex of the two apps, but that comes at the expense of spending more time just navigating around the UI to get things done. I found it so tedious compared to Cubasis when Logic first came out, that I ended up jumping back to Cubasis pretty quick.
I’m not sure why (likely the stupid amount of money I just spent on all new iPad hardware) but now that I’m revisiting Logic again and am more determined to suss it out, I’m finding it a lot easier to find my way around. 🤷🏼♂️. Now that I’m getting more used to the interface and using two hands more, it’s getting quicker and more intuitive to get stuff done.
Still nowhere as focused as Cubasis was for me, but there’s tradeoffs as I mentioned.
This is the type of stuff I like reading at night before sleep.
I'm in the same boat regarding Logic's UI. It's a pain in the butt to navigate, but as you said, it's due to everything that's packed into the app.
Between the two apps, I do prefer Cubasis for most operations, but that AI Mastering Assistant in Logic is difficult to top.
That said, I think the next EP/Album after "Do Androids Dream of Music?" will be produced entirely in Cubasis 3, including the mastering. Cubasis 3 doesn't have AI Mastering, but it has the handy Master Strip.
I found out from stumbling upon a video on youtube that Cubasis' channel strip is capable of sidechain compression! I don't recall seeing that feature before, but I'm shocked (in a good way). (Although in many ways I prefer the "autoducking" method in FLSM, which obviously can be achieved using Flux Pro. But the channel strip sidechaining would be perfect for ducking instruments to vocals.)
I know Logic Pro is capable of all of this and much more, but as I have stated elsewhere, I hope Apple releases an iPad Mini Pro with more storage space than 256gb. 😅 I need space to fit my multi-gb romplers afterall. (My iPhone 14 Pro Max has 1TB storage.)
@klownshed :Well said
Cool, wasn't aware that you can have more clips/tracks than those that fit on the intial screen, that it has pages. So basically it can potentially replace AUM and has an option to jam out and/or arrange the recordings.
The sequencer and its drum rack like behavior is really well done in Logic. If the extended desktop support would be better (you can't use hubs for extended desktop recognition) I'd switch to it for everything and make it my main DAW. I find linear timeline editing just so painful on small screens.
You can have virtually unlimited tracks in a project though they might get cumbersome to manage.
How many tracks/donuts can fit on a a single page? I've seen people replacing the donuts with rectangles, are squares also possible?
I don’t know what the page limit is — a lot. But you can have many pages … and all clips on all pages are accessible. Looping clips can be circled or non-square rectangles. One-shots can be squares.
It’s free to try for 7 days. Be sure to have plenty of time in that 7 days though. There’s a lot to explore.
fwiw, I don’t see Loopy Pro as a replacement for any DAW such as Cubasis or Logic Pro. But as a creative workspace it’s fantastic. I rarely care to open up a DAW any more except for final arrangement, mixing, and mastering, though. It feels too creatively hindering to me now.
Both DAW's are good, but Cubasis has a MUCH nicer GUI.
Yeah, sequencing, sound processing and experimentation is much more fun with an iPad. Loopy would be an alternative for Abletons session view clip matrix where I currently import the audio into that I've recorded in AUM. There I try out different ideas and record it into the arrangement view. Currently using the iPad as a clip launcher for Ableton using the Pencil in continuity, but it feels like I'm back in school doing my homework lol.
Abletons session view (clip matrix) is nice with a good template and a mapped controller like the old APC 40 (MKII) that has encoders that automap to the active rack device, unfortunately I've got rid of the first version years ago and the MKII price just skyrocketed on the used market after Akai ruined the series with their weird APC64.
I hope that I can kind of consolidate AUM and Ableton session view workflow with Loopy and import a semi finished track into Abletons arrangement view for editing. This would be the goal of the 7 day experiment.
Right now i'm also giving Drambo standalone another try after i had the glorious idea that I could just use layer mixer racks instead of sends and "solo" each layer using multiple exports to extract enough layers from the project. This would shrink the 24 or 32 tracks I use in AUM to the half.
I still keep Logic 4 iPad installed just in case, I may use it for mastering and resubscribe once I have a bunch of mixes ready to get mastered.
I don’t like it at all :-)
It seems like Logic's clip launcher would be ideal for this. Not working out?
btw, Zenbeats is fairly close to Live in terms of having both clip launcher and timeline. It's also free to check out, in a rather limited sense - probably enough to get a feel for the workflow at least.