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“UFOs” over New Jersey and what they probably really are..

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  • @Gavinski said:
    This is the very type of off topic post that usually gets shut down.

    Your kind of post that can cause it to be shut down. :'(

  • Yes, and given the fact that millions of people have access to hi-def cameras should mean that there would be at least one clear photograph of an alien vessel(s)...

  • @knewspeak said:

    @Gavinski said:
    This is the very type of off topic post that usually gets shut down.

    Your kind of post that can cause it to be shut down. :'(

    I didn't say anything very controversial there, and nothing political! Anyway, there are plenty of other places on the internet to have discussions about this, as has been said here ad nauseum.

  • @lasselu said:
    Yes, and given the fact that millions of people have access to hi-def cameras should mean that there would be at least one clear photograph of an alien vessel(s)...

    Billions of people.

  • @lasselu said:
    Yes, and given the fact that millions of people have access to hi-def cameras should mean that there would be at least one clear photograph of an alien vessel(s)...

    They’re reputed to exist, that’s from many governmental sources btw, as to what they are well that’s speculative.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Gavinski said:
    This is the very type of off topic post that usually gets shut down.

    Your kind of post that can cause it to be shut down. :'(

    I didn't say anything very controversial there, and nothing political! Anyway, there are plenty of other places on the internet to have discussions about this, as has been said here ad nauseum.

    If it bothers you why even contribute, you ridiculed, and stated your opinion as if a fact that is absolute and above contradiction, your opinion is fair to hold, but it’s your opinion, other opinions exist.

  • edited December 2024

    @knewspeak said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Gavinski said:
    This is the very type of off topic post that usually gets shut down.

    Your kind of post that can cause it to be shut down. :'(

    I didn't say anything very controversial there, and nothing political! Anyway, there are plenty of other places on the internet to have discussions about this, as has been said here ad nauseum.

    If it bothers you why even contribute, you ridiculed, and stated your opinion as if a fact that is absolute and above contradiction, your opinion is fair to hold, but it’s your opinion, other opinions exist.

    No, I stated it as an opinion and gave my reasons for having that opinion. I didn't append the words 'in my opinion' to it. Is that what things have come to now? It's obvious this is an opinion, and you're free to disagree with it. I even wrote 'My two cents is...'. I'm also free not to get dragged into a discussion about it, as neither of us is likely to change our mind and I have other things to do with my Sunday. Also note that the entire topic of this thread, as started by Dendy, is that these objects are best explained as non-alien in origin.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Gavinski said:
    This is the very type of off topic post that usually gets shut down.

    Your kind of post that can cause it to be shut down. :'(

    I didn't say anything very controversial there, and nothing political! Anyway, there are plenty of other places on the internet to have discussions about this, as has been said here ad nauseum.

    If it bothers you why even contribute, you ridiculed, and stated your opinion as if a fact that is absolute and above contradiction, your opinion is fair to hold, but it’s your opinion, other opinions exist.

    No, I stated it as an opinion and gave my reasons for having that opinion. I didn't append the words 'in my opinion' to it. Is that what things have come to now? It's obvious this is an opinion, and you're free to disagree with it. I'm also free not to get dragged into a discussion about it, as neither of us is likely to change our mind and I have other things to do with my Sunday

    Please don’t try to make the excuse you have been ‘dragged’ into this discussion, you chose of your own free will to engage, by posting your comment, instantly mentioning about the threads of this subject, being shut down, certainly not a good start, you then state your opinion as absolute fact, ending with an emoji implying ridicule at opinions that may contradict yours, so please stop it with playing the victim.

    In short act civil and not condescending. Thanks.

    Here’s your original post for context.

    @Gavinski said:
    This is the very type of off topic post that usually gets shut down. Before it does, my two cents is that, basically, if there were aliens coming into our atmosphere, there'd be zero ambiguity. It would be clear there were aliens here and everyone would agree on it. They wouldn't appear so fleetingly or be detected mainly through anecdotal sightings or blurry footage. More of us would have seen them and they'd probably be running the place by now 😂

  • Reads as though the laughing emoji is related to the last statement only, which is a joke pertaining to the flimsiness of human political systems as a whole rather than any poking fun at anyone’s beliefs to me…

  • @Krupa said:
    Reads as though the laughing emoji is related to the last statement only, which is a joke pertaining to the flimsiness of human political systems as a whole rather than any poking fun at anyone’s beliefs to me…

    Yes, knewspeak's interpretation is twisting things in various ways. For example my sentence that I didn't want to get dragged into something clearly didn't refer to my original post. It referred to not wanting to get dragged into this kind of thing that's happening now. I'm out.

  • @Krupa said:
    Reads as though the laughing emoji is related to the last statement only, which is a joke pertaining to the flimsiness of human political systems as a whole rather than any poking fun at anyone’s beliefs to me…

    The last sentence is ridiculous, as stated if @Gavinski wished to engage honestly he could have just posted his opinion, without adding anything to the last sentence, but starting and ending in such a way to make trouble when none had previously existed. Given he clearly knew such threads had been closed for similar posts he could have engaged with a little more care.

  • @lasselu said:
    Yes, and given the fact that millions of people have access to hi-def cameras should mean that there would be at least one clear photograph of an alien vessel(s)...

    Such as the footage provided a few years ago by the Pentagon?

  • edited December 2024

    @knewspeak said:

    @Krupa said:
    Reads as though the laughing emoji is related to the last statement only, which is a joke pertaining to the flimsiness of human political systems as a whole rather than any poking fun at anyone’s beliefs to me…

    The last sentence is ridiculous, as stated if @Gavinski wished to engage honestly he could have just posted his opinion, without adding anything to the last sentence, but starting and ending in such a way to make trouble when none had previously existed. Given he clearly knew such threads had been closed for similar posts he could have engaged with a little more care.

    Well, that’s your opinion also, as is the offence you seem to have taken. It’s generally the heat in the threads that gets them shut down if we’re honest… it’s maybe a flip comment but nothing to get upset about. (IMHO)

  • edited December 2024

    „ Many people are reporting 'drones' in New Jersey and elsewhere. But these reports exist in the context of a much broader geopolitical information war and should be evaluated critically.“

    Read this:

    https://america2.news/making-sense-of-ufo-hysteria/

  • @Gravity said:
    „ Many people are reporting 'drones' in New Jersey and elsewhere. But these reports exist in the context of a much broader geopolitical information war and should be evaluated critically.“

    Read this:

    https://america2.news/making-sense-of-ufo-hysteria/

    Yeah, as someone who’s worked as a film maker in this field (wasted a great deal of time tbh) and seen the ways it’s developed over the last twenty five years, this recent outbreak is really worrying in terms of how far information wars are reaching into many societies around the world.

  • @Krupa said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Krupa said:
    Reads as though the laughing emoji is related to the last statement only, which is a joke pertaining to the flimsiness of human political systems as a whole rather than any poking fun at anyone’s beliefs to me…

    The last sentence is ridiculous, as stated if @Gavinski wished to engage honestly he could have just posted his opinion, without adding anything to the last sentence, but starting and ending in such a way to make trouble when none had previously existed. Given he clearly knew such threads had been closed for similar posts he could have engaged with a little more care.

    Well, that’s your opinion also, as is the offence you seem to have taken. It’s generally the heat in the threads that gets them shut down if we’re honest… it’s maybe a flip comment but nothing to get upset about. (IMHO)

    It’s generally why people don’t give testimony in various scenarios, myself included, because of ridicule, so if people stopped doing that, a reasonable discussion could take place, that’s all I’m asking.

  • Remember the horror clowns? The US always was and still is very susceptible to this kind of bullshit.
    Psychos like Roseanne Barr are already posting about „Project Blue Beam“ and other crap.

  • @knewspeak said:

    @Krupa said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @Krupa said:
    Reads as though the laughing emoji is related to the last statement only, which is a joke pertaining to the flimsiness of human political systems as a whole rather than any poking fun at anyone’s beliefs to me…

    The last sentence is ridiculous, as stated if @Gavinski wished to engage honestly he could have just posted his opinion, without adding anything to the last sentence, but starting and ending in such a way to make trouble when none had previously existed. Given he clearly knew such threads had been closed for similar posts he could have engaged with a little more care.

    Well, that’s your opinion also, as is the offence you seem to have taken. It’s generally the heat in the threads that gets them shut down if we’re honest… it’s maybe a flip comment but nothing to get upset about. (IMHO)

    It’s generally why people don’t give testimony in various scenarios, myself included, because of ridicule, so if people stopped doing that, a reasonable discussion could take place, that’s all I’m asking.

    That’s definitely an issue; as I think I’ve said previously I personally know and have worked with someone who from the late eighties onwards performed this role for the police in the UK as part of his role as a senior officer and this was done as the officers who believed they had seen something inexplicable had nowhere else to go for fear of ridicule from their colleagues. I’m not sure this forum is a suitable place for that though, it’s a sensitive thing to reveal as there’s many different interpretations and can easily lead to offence being given/taken.

  • @Gravity said:
    „ Many people are reporting 'drones' in New Jersey and elsewhere. But these reports exist in the context of a much broader geopolitical information war and should be evaluated critically.“

    Read this:

    https://america2.news/making-sense-of-ufo-hysteria/

    This is some freaky political BS, I would largely discount and rip to shreds but here definitely isn’t the place to discuss.

  • Entering this as evidence one way or another is an outlandish stretch with no relevance in this topic.

  • @knewspeak said:

    @Gravity said:
    „ Many people are reporting 'drones' in New Jersey and elsewhere. But these reports exist in the context of a much broader geopolitical information war and should be evaluated critically.“

    Read this:

    https://america2.news/making-sense-of-ufo-hysteria/

    This is some freaky political BS, I would largely discount and rip to shreds but here definitely isn’t the place to discuss.

    It‘s certainly not. Check out Dave Troy. He‘s a credible journalist and most definitely no bullshitter.

    But what I agree on is that this whole discussion is pure bullshit and this thread should be closed.

  • @Gravity said:
    But what I agree on is that this whole discussion is pure bullshit and this thread should be closed.

    Good call.

  • I second the thread being closed. It’s provided zero value, some got frosty with others and we all have lost time we will never get back.

    Cue some sarcastic F to reply. Until then, play with the 💩 you have vs constantly speculating over 💩

  • I have been assuming, without proof, that they’re drones. Then further assumed it was being done by a private citizen(s) being careless or malicious. One of my fears is that eventually some idiot will cause an aviation accident, but it’s just speculation on my part.

  • @Gavinski said:
    and they'd probably be running the place by now 😂

    Who says they aren't? ;)

  • Whilst this is my favourite topic of discussion, after what happened with my 'Woo' thread I am going to limit this just to this comment:

    The US government is gaslighting the american public over the drone discussion. So many people have seen something, and these are people who live in the area, police, governors, mayors included... to just brush it off as 'There are no drones, you are all mistaken', is an incredibly bad look.

  • edited December 2024

    Seems to me the people calling for the thread to be closed are the same people who are stirring things up, instead of having a calm, polite discussion on a fascinating subject.

    As usual.

  • @sevenape said:

    The US government is gaslighting the american public over the drone discussion. So many people have seen something, and these are people who live in the area, police, governors, mayors included... to just brush it off as 'There are no drones, you are all mistaken', is an incredibly bad look.

    I agree. I’m not saying these are non human but something very odd is happening here.

  • edited December 2024

    @oldsynthguy said:
    Seems to me the people calling for the thread to be closed are the same people who are stirring things up, instead of having a calm, polite discussion on a fascinating subject.

    As usual.

    True, I know I perhaps shouldn’t have engaged with posts that seek to ridicule and close the thread, but it’s the same modus operandi time again that have closed down this topic, for anyone who thinks it wastes their time, why engage and post, to do so is a nonsensical stance.

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