JUNE by AudioThing (Released)

dendy

@timfromtheborder said:

@dendy said:

@offbrands said:
Between the 3 I think of off the top of my head;

• AudioKit’s - Synth One J6

AK synth (like all AK synths) not a real emulation, It's basically "just" ROMpler containing samples from hw and some generic envelopes and filter (average quality, in my opinion)

Not true, J6 is not a rompler and doesn’t contain any samples. You’re right that it’s not a true Juno emulation though.

Ah ok you are true i was wrong .. re-checked it and yea it looks this is exception, different from other recently published synths .. sorry for missinformation

echoopera

This is a wonderful synth:

Thanks @audiothing

Grandbear

@Grandbear said:
From the init patch, enabling both chorus effects, does that sound right? The TAL version sounds very different, but I don’t really know what’s the right behavior.

Thanks for the details @audiothing! Can you confirm that this is indeed how the hardware unit behaves with both chorus I and II enabled? Like a fast tremolo? I guess this is precisely what you’re describing about the cascaded unit becoming mono.

gregsmith

@dendy said:

@timfromtheborder said:

@dendy said:

@offbrands said:
Between the 3 I think of off the top of my head;

• AudioKit’s - Synth One J6

AK synth (like all AK synths) not a real emulation, It's basically "just" ROMpler containing samples from hw and some generic envelopes and filter (average quality, in my opinion)

Not true, J6 is not a rompler and doesn’t contain any samples. You’re right that it’s not a true Juno emulation though.

Ah ok you are true i was wrong .. re-checked it and yea it looks this is exception, different from other recently published synths .. sorry for missinformation

Yep, it really got me interested in AK again when I learned it’s not just rompling any more. J6 is fantastic!

DSZA

@dendy said:

@timfromtheborder said:

@dendy said:

@offbrands said:
Between the 3 I think of off the top of my head;

• AudioKit’s - Synth One J6

AK synth (like all AK synths) not a real emulation, It's basically "just" ROMpler containing samples from hw and some generic envelopes and filter (average quality, in my opinion)

Not true, J6 is not a rompler and doesn’t contain any samples. You’re right that it’s not a true Juno emulation though.

Ah ok you are true i was wrong .. re-checked it and yea it looks this is exception, different from other recently published synths .. sorry for missinformation

Regarding AK: Nerd, Viral, and Synth One are also not romplers.

dendy

@DSZA said:ation

Regarding AK: Nerd, Viral, and Synth One are also not romplers.

with all respect just because something has basic generic filter, env and lfo it doesn’t mean it is not rompler .. it has tons of sampled waves from HW so it really doesn’t model original synth oscillators, it doesn’t model original HW filters, envelopes and lfo behaviour.. it’s rompler, not emulation ... Equivalent to these AK “synths” in PC world is ReFx Nexus (which is rompler too)

Synth One isn’t rompler and i didn’t mentioned it as Rompler

I was talking about lately released synths - nerd, viral and entire “king of” serie (vhs, digital, fm, snes, sega - I don’t know all of them just few) - those i know are based on sampled library from given HW - that’s why these plugins reminds a bit sound of these HW machines, not from faithful emulation of oscillators, filters and all other elements of original synths, they even don’t emulate (not even remotely) basic architecture of given HW synth (especially nerd and viral) - they just contain tons of samoled material from HW , that’s it.

EnvelopeFollower

great synth. congrats to audiothing!

audiothing

@Grandbear said:
Thanks for the details @audiothing! Can you confirm that this is indeed how the hardware unit behaves with both chorus I and II enabled? Like a fast tremolo? I guess this is precisely what you’re describing about the cascaded unit becoming mono.

Yes, that's exactly how the hardware behaves with I + II on.
A bit more details here: https://github.com/pendragon-andyh/Juno60/blob/master/Chorus/README.md

dendy

@audiothing as much as my inital impression was a bit in favour of TAL, more i play with your plugn more i like it !! You really achieved to put there the raw original HW mojo into it, respect !

Please next time do Jupiter 8, i have faith in you :-)

cyberheater

@dendy said:
@audiothing as much as my inital impression was a bit in favour of TAL, more i play with your plugn more i like it !! You really achieved to put there the raw original HW mojo into it, respect !

Please next time do Jupiter 8, i have faith in you :-)

A hardware faithful recreation of a Jupiter 8 on your iPad. Can you imagine.

DblU

Great synth! Now I have Maya in MaxForLive June for IOS and my Juno-6 is happy to have some digital friends to jam with

Tones4Christ

Instabuy! 100%

@dendy said:
@audiothing as much as my inital impression was a bit in favour of TAL, more i play with your plugn more i like it !! You really achieved to put there the raw original HW mojo into it, respect !

Please next time do Jupiter 8, i have faith in you :-)

Grandbear

@audiothing said:

@Grandbear said:
Thanks for the details @audiothing! Can you confirm that this is indeed how the hardware unit behaves with both chorus I and II enabled? Like a fast tremolo? I guess this is precisely what you’re describing about the cascaded unit becoming mono.

Yes, that's exactly how the hardware behaves with I + II on.
A bit more details here: https://github.com/pendragon-andyh/Juno60/blob/master/Chorus/README.md

I love this kind of thing, thanks again

gusgranite

@audiothing killer synth release. Happily making presets. Nice work! 👍👏👊

EnvelopeFollower

@audiothing
one of the best emulations i've heard on ios so far.
perfect scaling,automation working,nice fx.
like your spaceecho.

Tones4Christ

Yes! This Synth brings so many memories from the 80’s

@EnvelopeFollower said:
@audiothing
one of the best emulations i've heard on ios so far.
perfect scaling,automation working,nice fx.
like your spaceecho.

DMfan

I am going to pass on this one for now, but I am sure it is a very good emulation since I have a bunch of stuff from AT.

Problem for me it simply does not bring enough value, since I already like many have the TAL, J6 and ZR1. And God knows how many others…. In the context of a mix I can recreate the Juno sound well enough.

I would have jumped right away on emulations of the Jupiter 8 or the Prophet 5 since they are still not available on iOS.

Perhaps an emulation of the Fourm to capture the essence of the whole Sequential line? Audio Tourm? Audio 4M?

/DMfan🇸🇪

Thelast27

So am i right @audiothing in thinking any presets from Tal-U-NO will not be compatible with June?

Tones4Christ

Just left a 5 Star review on the Apple App Store as Musikman4christ!

Love this Synth! It totally took me back to the 80s! Seriously, when I play it, it really reminds me of the 80s when we played that synth at church! What an amazing job!

Hopefully you can see my request to have the preset screen remain open for instant preset switching especially for playing live at church!

Thanks!

@audiothing said:
Glad you’re enjoying JUNE! It’s been in development for almost a year, so I’m really happy to finally see it out in the world.

Since there are already a few JUNO emulations out there, I wanted to briefly explain what aspects we focused on when developing JUNE, and how we approached some of the trickier details of the original hardware, especially in the filter and chorus sections.

One particularly interesting behavior of the original JUNO, in certain settings, is a slight delay of the filter state, around 1 to 2 ms, which can cause micro clicks or transient artifacts. When used intentionally, those clicks can add a distinctive character, something I have not seen any other emulation reproduce accurately. We have tried to model all of the edge cases, reconstructed the filter circuit in detail, and spent months comparing with the hardware. We also compared our emulation and the JUNO 60 in our studio to a JUNO 106, and the behavior is nearly identical. The 106 VCF should be the same, just repackaged in a different chip.

Regarding the chorus, in the hardware, when both Chorus I and II are active, the BBD delay lines are cascaded, which effectively causes the signal to become mono. Other emulations handle this differently, but I think that’s part of what gives the hardware its unique character. Another thing I find missing in some emulations is the classic BBD chorus noise, which yeah, can be annoying (and that is why we made it controllable), but it is also again part of that vintage sound. BBDs are noisy!

audiothing

@Thelast27 said:
So am i right @audiothing in thinking any presets from Tal-U-NO will not be compatible with June?

I did not look at their format to be honest, but I suppose it shouldn't be too hard to port them.

audiothing

@Tones4Christ said:
Just left a 5 Star review on the Apple App Store as Musikman4christ!

Love this Synth! It totally took me back to the 80s! Seriously, when I play it, it really reminds me of the 80s when we played that synth at church! What an amazing job!

Hopefully you can see my request to have the preset screen remain open for instant preset switching especially for playing live at church!

Thanks!

Apple hasn’t shown any reviews yet, but if you have feedback or feature requests, the best way to share them is through our website or on our Discord.
I’m not sure I understand, the preset browser should only close when you click outside of it. Is there something I’m missing?

ecou

@ecou said:
How is the presets selection ? How many presets ?

Could anybody inform me on the preset situation ?

Tones4Christ

Had me thinking for a moment what the heck was I thinking! Lol, Yeah, the preset selection is perfect! I love it way better than TAL's.

I was just thinking could there be a way to lock it so it doesn't auto close?

If I'm playing live, if I inadvertently tap anywhere outside the preset selection screen it will close. If I'm playing live and need to select different preset that split second can make it hard timing wise. Especially if doing a lead.

Not a huge deal but it would be nice to have. I have that option in my 90's Korg Trinity v3 where I can lock the screen with like a safety pin and I'm able to scroll thru presets and not go to the performance screen unless I lock it.

You see my thinking is, I would program my midi controller to control whatever parameters I use the most in a live situation and leave the preset screen open at all times during a live performance. Having the option would be so nice. Even in settings, doesn't have to be a pin sort of speak. But having it as an option would help a lot for those situations.

Hope it doesn't take too much coding.

Hope I make sense.

@audiothing said:

@Tones4Christ said:
Just left a 5 Star review on the Apple App Store as Musikman4christ!

Love this Synth! It totally took me back to the 80s! Seriously, when I play it, it really reminds me of the 80s when we played that synth at church! What an amazing job!

Hopefully you can see my request to have the preset screen remain open for instant preset switching especially for playing live at church!

Thanks!

Apple hasn’t shown any reviews yet, but if you have feedback or feature requests, the best way to share them is through our website or on our Discord.
I’m not sure I understand, the preset browser should only close when you click outside of it. Is there something I’m missing?

Simon

@ecou said:
Could anybody inform me on the preset situation ?

audiothing

@ecou said:

@ecou said:
How is the presets selection ? How many presets ?

Could anybody inform me on the preset situation ?

There are 95 factory presets and we plan to add more, along with the original JUNO factory banks.

audiothing

@Tones4Christ said:
Had me thinking for a moment what the heck was I thinking! Lol, Yeah, the preset selection is perfect! I love it way better than TAL's.

I was just thinking could there be a way to lock it so it doesn't auto close?

Ok I'll see what I can do.

ecou

@audiothing said:

@ecou said:

@ecou said:
How is the presets selection ? How many presets ?

Could anybody inform me on the preset situation ?

There are 95 factory presets and we plan to add more, along with the original JUNO factory banks.

That is great thank you for answering. But I would be great if you could get somebody to make modern sounding presets. This synth is ideal for synthwave it would be nice to have a set of those.

Thelast27

@audiothing said:

@Thelast27 said:
So am i right @audiothing in thinking any presets from Tal-U-NO will not be compatible with June?

I did not look at their format to be honest, but I suppose it shouldn't be too hard to port them.

@audiothing would this be something you would need to do or is there a converter as the file extensions do differ. Would be a shame not to be able to use some purchased presets in JUNE which I’ve previously used in TAL

Fear2Stop

@audiothing said:

@Grandbear said:
Thanks for the details @audiothing! Can you confirm that this is indeed how the hardware unit behaves with both chorus I and II enabled? Like a fast tremolo? I guess this is precisely what you’re describing about the cascaded unit becoming mono.

Yes, that's exactly how the hardware behaves with I + II on.
A bit more details here: https://github.com/pendragon-andyh/Juno60/blob/master/Chorus/README.md

That was the very first thing my wife tested when she started messing around with it ! In her words : “Nailed it”. Thank goodness for family sharing , I might not ever see my iPad again otherwise 😂

She wanted me to say that she’d be most appreciative if someone would do the same for the Jupiter 8 😎

EnvelopeFollower

@ecou said:

@audiothing said:

@ecou said:

@ecou said:
How is the presets selection ? How many presets ?

Could anybody inform me on the preset situation ?

There are 95 factory presets and we plan to add more, along with the original JUNO factory banks.

That is great thank you for answering. But I would be great if you could get somebody to make modern sounding presets. This synth is ideal for synthwave it would be nice to have a set of those.

learn how to program that synth. only more easier is a sh101.
there's not that much to do.
or buy a synthwave sample pack, there are alot around.