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It's my belief AI music will add value for real musicians and live performance. Being able to create and jam, live in the moment, is something AI will never have. AI is incapable of innovation, of in the moment responsiveness. AI is devoid of soul.
Not all people will value real music. The industry is already full of bad music, bad musicians, and formulaic bullchips. These are not the people who matter. Consumers are not creators. Muggles matter not.
And I make music for joy, the love of it, to see people laugh, dance and live. AI will never replace me. Nor any musician who plays with their heart and soul.
As the world becomes more robotic and disconnected, people will yearn for genuine connection even more. Is this a mass marketable thing? No. Does it change the world? Yes, one note, one song, one person at a time.
If someone is using AI as an excuse to not make music, then I tend to wonder where their heart is and intentions are.
I'm not personally a fan of using AI to make songs, though it has been a fun tool to noodle around with. It has potential as a creative source, and there are ethically trained models out there. I've made a few stems, and just end up not using anything AI originated. I have too much fun originating my own sounds and recording live.
My heart isn't into using it, so I don't. If others do, peachy! I love seeing creative uses of AI. Gossip Goblin is a good example.
LoopyPro for the win! Gotta love this software for its versatility and as a tool for genuine creativity.
Extrapolating from where we are today won't do it. In just a few more years (I'm guessing anywhere between 2-5 years from now) we're going to be looking at the biggest robotics+A.I. wave in human history, which will revolutionize what "work" means. So, if you want to know what happens in 10 years, look at who will be in charge of things in ten years. People who are 20 and 30 years old now will be determining what the future looks like.
i believe my hearing a lot less as I get older lol. Im struggling with mixing using my hearing let alone things like pitch perception or anything else lol
That makes two of us haha
AI is great for musicians. I used to have to think about marketing my songs but as sales are a thing of the past I have more time to focus on telling SUNO about the awesome songs I want it to ghost write for me.
The new generation growing up with this won’t have time for old luddites. New markets will evolve and a balance will be found. It’s never complete Armageddon.
I have one a question for those who makes AI music.
For me creating music is all about the satisfaction of the process of creating. The journey of creation. And the pride of what I have created.
I would not get much satisfaction from typing a sentence in a AI.
Do you also have those feelings or you have other reason for making music?
Fellow old guy here — we heard similar arguments about home computers back in the day. History surprised us once already.
I think the people doing this are either not musicians (so this is the only way they can 'make' music), or they are trying to make easy money.
If I spot AI on youtube, I usually take a few seconds to comment on it "This is AI, everybody!". Don't know if it makes a difference, but gotta do something.
I think we could split the general Ai music phenomenom into two distinctions to make it easier:
Ai music where the user has no more input than description and the Ai interprits those words into music that it recognises matches the words given via its data set.
Ai music where Ai tools are used to help music producers achieve part of the music that they would otherwise struggle to do themselves. The modern equivilent of a session musician or studio engineer.
Both have many positives and negatives. Heres just a few:
Makes the enjoyment of trying to put music on video projects etc more simplistic f those not interested in the process or wanting to deal with overly pretenious musicians. Cheapens the process and negates the passion of the musician.
Helps one person do the whole process of making music, when collaborating with others is not possible or desirable. Reduces the need for trained professionals and reduces the need for individual learning which may reduce competence in other areas.
Obviously a simplistic overview, but possibly important to think about rather than Ai bad or good.
Computers became a consumer item because people were prepared to buy them, prompting companies in a race to develop new systems and hardware and attract new sales. I could easily spend a few thousand every few years on new kit. They could do this because there was a constant income stream from the general public.
Like most people I’ve spent exactly £0 on AI since it’s been available, so it’s going to be interesting to see how they claw back the trillions already invested in it, from people like you and me, to pay for continued development and running costs - and make a profit for their shareholders. Maybe businesses will take up the slack, pay for AI with savings from cutting jobs? But then an unemployed public will have even less money to spend on non-essentials.
I don’t think it’ll go away completely, but I doubt even the experts are able to predict how this will eventually play out.
One thing I think we can predict - it’s going to be messy.
Im aware this comment might be perceived political in some ways, but I dont want it to go that way.
I think that some of the investments in Ai are simply ways to move large sums of money around without breaking certain laws. I may be wrong, Just a feeling I have.
Possibly some of the Ai phenomonom is linked to other issues of a politcal nature so wont explore them here.
From what I’ve read, a lot of cash is going into shareholders pockets courtesy of a circular system where the money to fund all this stuff doesn’t seem to exist. That’s not to say when the bubble bursts - and it will - that’s the end of AI, but like the .com bubble a couple of decades ago, a lot of companies are going to get their fingers burned.
It is being used as a political tool, but inevitably, it’s all about the money.
Yeah it usually is lol
But I am not asking the general public. I am asking people in here. We all play with music apps and hangouts in a music forum. That kinda makes us musicians. (I don’t wanna debates what makes a person a musician)
Maybe @Ailerom can share his opinion since he seems very excited about making AI music.
I am not trying to be confrotional with people who like AI. I am curious what their about how to see it.
99.9% sure Ailerom was being sarcastic / humorous when he wrote that comment.
Well … that’s twice this week I have not been able to detect sarcasm / humor. English is my second language and I need to keep improving. Thanks for pointing that @Gavinski .
*stolen from Facebook
I had a go with this last night, at first I wasn't really feeling it, but I think would be nice to use to improvise/DJ at a party if they could make it a bit more snappy/responsive and without the 10 minute server limit.
I just threw in a few ambient themed words like sea/space etc and then added in "Drum and bass" which really kicked things off and then Deep booming bass, then I ran out of time! Was gimmicky but fun!
What I found lacking was the ability to shape the sounds coming our of it, e.g. filters on synths etc, that would be where it could get interesting.
Not really music related unless you like big boom boom music but apparently Grok ai is now sufficiently patriotic to join the US military.
Can't see anything going wrong there :-/ .... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/13/elon-musk-grok-hegseth-military-pentagon
Sorry, but this is just incorrect. I’ve been making music for the majority of my life and I will try almost any new tools (as long as they’re not Windows PC-based). I like music and I like technology. Because something doesn’t appeal to you, don’t assume it’s not for anyone else.
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Why is that “wrong”? Considering all massive organizations and departments are organizational and logistical nightmares, this should be illuminating and helpful for them to get the best return on the use of taxpayer dollars.
I was asking a question to learn people feel about it. Not trying to start a flame war. No need to disagree with others opinion.
I think you misunderstand me - I was referring to those people who just churn out pure AI music (ie - zero input from the creator besides a simple prompt). I'm not talking about people (like you, it seems) who use AI tools to help the creation process. But I could be wrong about that, as well. Maybe there are people who just type in some prompts, asking for a song which is 100% AI from start to finish, who are musicians themselves. That would surprise me, but hey, I've been wrong before.
And if you read my previous posts, you will see that I am pro-AI for the most part. But then again, my livelihood is not being threatened by AI, so I can understand why some are not.
According to Rick Beato (I'll assume you're familiar with him) has already said "everyone" in the music business is already using Suno to help create their music. Keep in mind, this is what they're doing in the music business. Speed and innovation and making something that will be popular are what matter to people who are making their living in the recorded music business.
Anyone who has said "A.I. is garbage for making music"... then they are absolutely not familiar with what is really going on today. And I'd encourage everyone to gain some familiarity. We are still at the BEGINNING of what will be massive changes over the next several years and those changes will only continue to accelerate over the next twenty years. No matter if music is your hobby or your livelihood, I still say one should get familiar.
It is and it isn’t. Like art, in the hands of a non-musician or inexperienced producer, AI is capable of pumping out total slop. Music with six fingers. To create something unique and beautiful still takes a certain amount of skill.
AI tools provide more options for people wanting to do creative things, but like a carpenters chisel, you still need to know how to use it.
Whether an increasingly dumbed-down public will notice the difference, is another matter.
To me, writing a song is a bit like having a child. Something that comes from you.
I’d see no pleasure in having it written by a robot. It’s the same like telling an LLM to write you an essay. It will probably get you through the year but will leave close to no impact on your knowledge.
I’m probably going too much into the philosophical here but I feel quite guttural about it having written songs for the last 35+ years.