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  • @AnalogMatthew said:
    I’m all for the democratization of development, but wow, there is going to be a lot of noise.

    That’s what we said about AudioKit! 🤣

  • @gusgranite said:

    @AnalogMatthew said:
    I’m all for the democratization of development, but wow, there is going to be a lot of noise.

    That’s what we said about AudioKit! 🤣

    Fair.

    🙈 🤣

  • @AnalogMatthew said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @AnalogMatthew said:
    I’m all for the democratization of development, but wow, there is going to be a lot of noise.

    That’s what we said about AudioKit! 🤣

    Fair.

    🙈 🤣

    🙂

    Good luck with your passion projects! Looking forward to seeing the fruits of your labours

  • @gusgranite said:

    Fair.

    🙈 🤣

    🙂

    Good luck with your passion projects! Looking forward to seeing the fruits of your labours

    The Retro Keys app is one of them. I recorded those instruments around the same time as the original FM Player, in hopes of someday releasing an electric keys app.

  • edited April 21

    @gusgranite said:

    This is really good btw. There isn't a SY77 emulator on the market, so this feels a gap and works really well.

    On the whole debate, I think there's a place and market for apps that do something original and unique like Swayed, regardless of how they are coded. If the plugin is a Serum clone or another compressor or MFX, then the likelihood of success will be smaller.

  • @auxmux said:

    @gusgranite said:

    Coming from a former SY77 owner (donated mine to the school last year), I really love this UI.

    Are you sure this is vibe coded? I remember him working on this back in 2023..

  • @AnalogMatthew said:

    @auxmux said:

    @gusgranite said:

    Coming from a former SY77 owner (donated mine to the school last year), I really love this UI.

    Are you sure this is vibe coded? I remember him working on this back in 2023..

    Not sure about any of them! Will edit that one.

  • Even if the underlying code isn't vibe coded, the UI could be, correct?

    I'm looking forward to passing beyond the era of trying to figure out what is AI and what isn't, and just confidently assuming that everything is AI unless it happens right in front of my eyes. (This should be read dripping with sarcasm.)

  • I think it's only a matter of time before a developer will have to disclose the extent of AI assistance used, when making an App Store submission. Apple may even be working on a way of detecting it...

    If you're a coder, you'll probably agree that if you've seen code generated by AI tools, that is has a certain smell.

  • @Rob_Jackson_Music said:
    I think it's only a matter of time before a developer will have to disclose the extent of AI assistance used, when making an App Store submission. Apple may even be working on a way of detecting it...

    If you're a coder, you'll probably agree that if you've seen code generated by AI tools, that is has a certain smell.

    Haha. Maybe pros will be able to get a side hustle 'finishing them off', so to speak. Remember folks, if 'devwashing' becomes a thing, you heard it here first 😛

  • @Robin2 said:
    …the saddest thing for me with all generative AI is that it introduces suspicion around the authenticity of human creativity: did that human being create that or did they use AI? I bet it’s AI! That, to me, is heartbreaking for what it means for genuine human creativity. Will all great art be tarnished by suspicion from now on?

    When the artist plays live, will we be able to tell? Or will artists just lip-synch? It seems like lip-synching and faking it has been going on for quite some time now. Will the audience even care?
    Technology is certainly making our lives easier.

  • @Slam_Cut said:

    @Robin2 said:
    …the saddest thing for me with all generative AI is that it introduces suspicion around the authenticity of human creativity: did that human being create that or did they use AI? I bet it’s AI! That, to me, is heartbreaking for what it means for genuine human creativity. Will all great art be tarnished by suspicion from now on?

    When the artist plays live, will we be able to tell? Or will artists just lip-synch? It seems like lip-synching and faking it has been going on for quite some time now. Will the audience even care?
    Technology is certainly making our lives easier.

    Well, yeah, there’s faking performances, and has been for a long time as you say, but I’m more concerned about the potential rise of suspicion about authorship - suspicion, in this case, about who or what wrote the music being performed. And that, I think, is going to be incredibly difficult to prove categorically for people who haven’t used AI, which is awful.

    I’m worried, if the audience doesn’t care and becomes dubious about authorship by default, that it will devalue things that we should be in awe of as the creations of brilliantly talented individuals.

  • You beat me to it!!

  • funny how truth is downvoted.

  • @drewinnit said:

    Wow 100% vibecoded. Good on them for their honesty! Amazing what you can do now.

  • @gusgranite said:

    @drewinnit said:

    Wow 100% vibecoded. Good on them for their honesty! Amazing what you can do now.

    Yeah, but calling that thing 'powerful' devalues to meaning of the word...
    ...4 oscillators with a filter, a few envelopes and LFOs and some effects :sunglasses:
    (Doesn't take too many seconds to cook up something similar in Mela or Drambo).

  • edited April 22

    @gusgranite said:

    @drewinnit said:

    Wow 100% vibecoded. Good on them for their honesty! Amazing what you can do now.

    You can do something like that if you know what you are doing with Claude Code / Opis 4.7 / MAX literally in 2-3 days.

    Big question is how it is optimalised, how it implements all nuances of AUv3 speciffication .. many question ..

    But yeah, such simple basic apps can be done pretty quickly ..

    Game changes when you try to build something more deep and complex. Most fails or give when hungs start to be dense ;) Devil is hidden in details.

  • @dendy said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @drewinnit said:

    Wow 100% vibecoded. Good on them for their honesty! Amazing what you can do now.

    You can do something like that if you know what you are doing with Claude Code / Opis 4.7 / MAX literally in 2-3 days.

    Big question is how it is optimalised, how it implements all nuances of AUv3 speciffication .. many question ..

    But yeah, such simple basic apps can be done pretty quickly ..

    Game changes when you try to build something more deep and complex. Most fails or give when hungs start to be dense ;) Devil is hidden in details.

    I’ve shied away from DSP “vibe coding” because I’m worried somehow a glitch will blow out my eardrums.

  • @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    I’ve shied away from DSP “vibe coding” because I’m worried somehow a glitch will blow out my eardrums.

    :lol:

  • Someone
    Make me this:

    AI - Here's Your exact replica:

  • @AnalogMatthew said:
    Someone
    Make me this:

    AI - Here's Your exact replica:

    Pretty much. 🤣

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @AnalogMatthew said:
    Someone
    Make me this:

    AI - Here's Your exact replica:

    Pretty much. 🤣

    Sometimes Googles AI Chat (the free one) surprises Me...
    ...'it' started calling Vibe-Coded AUv3s 'Temu Apps' 🤣

  • @Samu said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @AnalogMatthew said:
    Someone
    Make me this:

    AI - Here's Your exact replica:

    Pretty much. 🤣

    Sometimes Googles AI Chat (the free one) surprises Me...
    ...'it' started calling Vibe-Coded AUv3s 'Temu Apps' 🤣

    Hahaha! AI throwing shade at other AI. That's how the war of robots will begin. 🤣

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Samu said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @AnalogMatthew said:
    Someone
    Make me this:

    AI - Here's Your exact replica:

    Pretty much. 🤣

    Sometimes Googles AI Chat (the free one) surprises Me...
    ...'it' started calling Vibe-Coded AUv3s 'Temu Apps' 🤣

    Hahaha! AI throwing shade at other AI. That's how the war of robots will begin. 🤣

    🤣

    Who knew iPadOS AUv3s would be the downfall of civilization?

    Well, I think we all kind of knew...

  • @AnalogMatthew said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Samu said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @AnalogMatthew said:
    Someone
    Make me this:

    AI - Here's Your exact replica:

    Pretty much. 🤣

    Sometimes Googles AI Chat (the free one) surprises Me...
    ...'it' started calling Vibe-Coded AUv3s 'Temu Apps' 🤣

    Hahaha! AI throwing shade at other AI. That's how the war of robots will begin. 🤣

    🤣

    Who knew iPadOS AUv3s would be the downfall of civilization?

    Well, I think we all kind of knew...

    Hahaha. I'm literally laughing in public. 🤣

  • edited April 22

    @AudioGus said:
    funny how truth is downvoted.

    sometimes the truth is not popular. i think the backlash is a good indication of the market not wanting this to occur.

  • @Robin2 said:

    @Slam_Cut said:

    @Robin2 said:
    …the saddest thing for me with all generative AI is that it introduces suspicion around the authenticity of human creativity: did that human being create that or did they use AI? I bet it’s AI! That, to me, is heartbreaking for what it means for genuine human creativity. Will all great art be tarnished by suspicion from now on?

    When the artist plays live, will we be able to tell? Or will artists just lip-synch? It seems like lip-synching and faking it has been going on for quite some time now. Will the audience even care?
    Technology is certainly making our lives easier.

    Well, yeah, there’s faking performances, and has been for a long time as you say, but I’m more concerned about the potential rise of suspicion about authorship - suspicion, in this case, about who or what wrote the music being performed. And that, I think, is going to be incredibly difficult to prove categorically for people who haven’t used AI, which is awful.

    I’m worried, if the audience doesn’t care and becomes dubious about authorship by default, that it will devalue things that we should be in awe of as the creations of brilliantly talented individuals.

    I agree with you, but it looks like it’s too late. Not only are music, graphics, video, text, etc. created by AI, but now the apps we use will be taken over by AI. When does the AI just use the AI-created apps to create music for us in our own style of that of favorite artists as soon as we turn on the iPad. “Here’s your new daily album with music videos,” Siri said. While we listen to the music we come to the LoopyPro forum and read posts made by chatbots instead of people.

  • @Slam_Cut said:
    While we listen to the music we come to the LoopyPro forum and read posts made by chatbots instead of people.

    So Facebook?

  • I swear, these days most of what I listen to is old Dance and HipHop music from my teens and 20s, music from the Creations section here, and Nintendo videogame OSTs in the Nintendo Music app. Ya know, stuff that was made by humans before AI.

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