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  • tubespacetubespace

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I swear, these days most of what I listen to is old Dance and HipHop music from my teens and 20s, music from the Creations section here, and Nintendo videogame OSTs in the Nintendo Music app. Ya know, stuff that was made by humans before AI.

    I also really find music made by humans refreshing. It's like going back in time.

  • Robin2Robin2

    @Slam_Cut said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @Slam_Cut said:

    @Robin2 said:
    …the saddest thing for me with all generative AI is that it introduces suspicion around the authenticity of human creativity: did that human being create that or did they use AI? I bet it’s AI! That, to me, is heartbreaking for what it means for genuine human creativity. Will all great art be tarnished by suspicion from now on?

    When the artist plays live, will we be able to tell? Or will artists just lip-synch? It seems like lip-synching and faking it has been going on for quite some time now. Will the audience even care?
    Technology is certainly making our lives easier.

    Well, yeah, there’s faking performances, and has been for a long time as you say, but I’m more concerned about the potential rise of suspicion about authorship - suspicion, in this case, about who or what wrote the music being performed. And that, I think, is going to be incredibly difficult to prove categorically for people who haven’t used AI, which is awful.

    I’m worried, if the audience doesn’t care and becomes dubious about authorship by default, that it will devalue things that we should be in awe of as the creations of brilliantly talented individuals.

    I agree with you, but it looks like it’s too late. Not only are music, graphics, video, text, etc. created by AI, but now the apps we use will be taken over by AI. When does the AI just use the AI-created apps to create music for us in our own style of that of favorite artists as soon as we turn on the iPad. “Here’s your new daily album with music videos,” Siri said. While we listen to the music we come to the LoopyPro forum and read posts made by chatbots instead of people.

    True, it may be too late. Ugh!

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Robin2 said:

    @Slam_Cut said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @Slam_Cut said:

    @Robin2 said:
    …the saddest thing for me with all generative AI is that it introduces suspicion around the authenticity of human creativity: did that human being create that or did they use AI? I bet it’s AI! That, to me, is heartbreaking for what it means for genuine human creativity. Will all great art be tarnished by suspicion from now on?

    When the artist plays live, will we be able to tell? Or will artists just lip-synch? It seems like lip-synching and faking it has been going on for quite some time now. Will the audience even care?
    Technology is certainly making our lives easier.

    Well, yeah, there’s faking performances, and has been for a long time as you say, but I’m more concerned about the potential rise of suspicion about authorship - suspicion, in this case, about who or what wrote the music being performed. And that, I think, is going to be incredibly difficult to prove categorically for people who haven’t used AI, which is awful.

    I’m worried, if the audience doesn’t care and becomes dubious about authorship by default, that it will devalue things that we should be in awe of as the creations of brilliantly talented individuals.

    I agree with you, but it looks like it’s too late. Not only are music, graphics, video, text, etc. created by AI, but now the apps we use will be taken over by AI. When does the AI just use the AI-created apps to create music for us in our own style of that of favorite artists as soon as we turn on the iPad. “Here’s your new daily album with music videos,” Siri said. While we listen to the music we come to the LoopyPro forum and read posts made by chatbots instead of people.

    True, it may be too late. Ugh!

    The tech ppl want us to think it's too late, that they've already won. But I do think we can still influence this situation. Vote with your feet.

    I'll judge any app on its own merits, I won't reject anything just because it's vibe coded. There are and there will be good vibe coded apps. But I think it's pretty clear that the majority of these vibe coded apps do in fact have little merit. Be wary what you buy and who you're supporting.

    We can all do things about the way AI is infiltrating our lives. Avoid YouTube channels making lazy use of AI. When someone writes a post or a marketing blurb clearly written by AI, call it out. Don't read the AI blurb at the top of Google searches, go direct to sites so you're actually supporting websites. And so on.

  • Robin2Robin2

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @Slam_Cut said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @Slam_Cut said:

    @Robin2 said:
    …the saddest thing for me with all generative AI is that it introduces suspicion around the authenticity of human creativity: did that human being create that or did they use AI? I bet it’s AI! That, to me, is heartbreaking for what it means for genuine human creativity. Will all great art be tarnished by suspicion from now on?

    When the artist plays live, will we be able to tell? Or will artists just lip-synch? It seems like lip-synching and faking it has been going on for quite some time now. Will the audience even care?
    Technology is certainly making our lives easier.

    Well, yeah, there’s faking performances, and has been for a long time as you say, but I’m more concerned about the potential rise of suspicion about authorship - suspicion, in this case, about who or what wrote the music being performed. And that, I think, is going to be incredibly difficult to prove categorically for people who haven’t used AI, which is awful.

    I’m worried, if the audience doesn’t care and becomes dubious about authorship by default, that it will devalue things that we should be in awe of as the creations of brilliantly talented individuals.

    I agree with you, but it looks like it’s too late. Not only are music, graphics, video, text, etc. created by AI, but now the apps we use will be taken over by AI. When does the AI just use the AI-created apps to create music for us in our own style of that of favorite artists as soon as we turn on the iPad. “Here’s your new daily album with music videos,” Siri said. While we listen to the music we come to the LoopyPro forum and read posts made by chatbots instead of people.

    True, it may be too late. Ugh!

    The tech ppl want us to think it's too late, that they've already won. But I do think we can still influence this situation. Vote with your feet.

    I'll judge any app on its own merits, I won't reject anything just because it's vibe coded. There are and there will be good vibe coded apps. But I think it's pretty clear that the majority of these vibe coded apps do in fact have little merit. Be wary what you buy and who you're supporting.

    We can all do things about the way AI is infiltrating our lives. Avoid YouTube channels making lazy use of AI. When someone writes a post or a marketing blurb clearly written by AI, call it out. Don't read the AI blurb at the top of Google searches, go direct to sites so you're actually supporting websites. And so on.

    Also true, maybe there’s hope for us all yet!

  • OnfraySinOnfraySin

    Therefore, just like 99% of the music uploaded here—which comes from exactly the same samples, from harmonies generated by Scaler 2, or from using the same reverb algorithms to create “ambient” sounds that are indistinguishable between tracks.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Another thought:

    Surely it's not that cheap to vibe code these apps, especially if you don't really know what you're doing? Some people must be burning through paid credits.

    They might quickly find that sales are very poor if the app is no good and there's no good marketing or word of mouth. That alone, over time, will mean that low effort apps just won't be worth making, and will act as a deterrent.

  • justaglovejustaglove
    edited April 23

    These new devs with no experience, no ethics and no soul, just credits, are just tourists with a fetish for pollution..tourists don’t care about the cost..

  • drewinnitdrewinnit

    interesting "About" page for the developer of Bitcrust: https://anode-labs.com/about/

    One's credentials and bona fides are becoming more important to share in the current climate of vibe-coding

  • mikejohnmikejohn

    tl;dr you can use ai to make good things, too

    Been following this thread and decided I ought to weigh in .. I’ve actually used AI to build something I genuinely believe fills a real gap in this ecosystem. I have zero coding/developing experience whatsoever and I’ve been making music most of my life .. I also have ideas about what tools would be useful for my purposes.

    Without AI those ideas never leave my notes app, let alone my mind. That’s not because of laziness or lack of commitment but because a very specific technical skill set I don’t have and, realistically, am not going to acquire.

    With AI I was able to build a web proof of concept (first POC was actually made in the shortcuts app) .. it’s exciting to make those ideas tangible .. suddenly they’re no longer just ideas in my head .. or in my notes. I could actually interact with, react to, and evaluate them. And that POC gave me enough clarity and validation to bring in a developer to take it further and to meet him where he is .. to speak his language. I couldn’t write code but I could hand him something real that he could actually read and respond to. AI didn’t replace the skilled work. It created the conditions where the skilled work became possible.

    I’m not naive enough to think this is how everyone using AI to make something thinks. It isn’t. But I also think that the broad stroke, all AI bad, lacks the space for real development.

    AI is a tool that, for better or worse, has been thrust into our lives .. just like smartphones, internet, tv, iPads and every other piece of profitable tech folks have raised their torches and pitchforks against all throughout human history. Every tool can be used well or badly.

    This scene already knows what lowering the barrier to entry looks like .. iOS music is that story. Hardware that costs thousands of dollars now costs five bucks on the App Store .. and folks will still complain that it’s not $2 instead. That democratization produced alot of junk and also some genuinely great stuff. The market sorted it out, consumers voted with their wallets and attention, and the good stuff found its audience.

    Without cheap guitars and four-tracks flooding the world with bad recordings, we may never have gotten The Replacements or Fugazi. The barrier coming down didn’t determine the quality of what came through it, the people and their passion for making music did. If something is shitty, skip it.

    Yes, vibe coding (bummed by all words vibe by the way) lets people with no skin in the game churn out “flippable” apps. It also lets people who are deep in a scene .. who know what’s missing .. actually build the thing they’ve been thinking about for years. Those aren’t the same phenomenon even if the tool is identical.

    For those interested.. here’s the POC link:
    https://alzabo.netlify.app

    And the LPF post about said link:
    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/67866/got-a-gazillion-presets-spread-across-a-jillion-apps-good-test-this#latest

  • FizzyLizzy27FizzyLizzy27

    @drewinnit said:
    interesting "About" page for the developer of Bitcrust: https://anode-labs.com/about/

    One's credentials and bona fides are becoming more important to share in the current climate of vibe-coding

    “Everything is built in-house — DSP, UI, tooling — because that is where the satisfaction is.”

    I don’t know, when I build programs I find the satisfaction to be something I’ve had as an idea finally working. I get as much enjoyment and excitement getting something to work using AI as sifting through dozens of stack overflow pages and version specific commands. How far in the weeds do I need to go before it’s considered just me coding? Is an app made using Python instead of C less valid because Python users don’t know machine level commands?

  • drewinnitdrewinnit

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:

    @drewinnit said:
    interesting "About" page for the developer of Bitcrust: https://anode-labs.com/about/

    One's credentials and bona fides are becoming more important to share in the current climate of vibe-coding

    “Everything is built in-house — DSP, UI, tooling — because that is where the satisfaction is.”

    I don’t know, when I build programs I find the satisfaction to be something I’ve had as an idea finally working. I get as much enjoyment and excitement getting something to work using AI as sifting through dozens of stack overflow pages and version specific commands. How far in the weeds do I need to go before it’s considered just me coding? Is an app made using Python instead of C less valid because Python users don’t know machine level commands?

    agreed. this about page may even in fact be a case of the dev "doth protest too much" considering some of the issues with the app

  • FizzyLizzy27FizzyLizzy27

    There’s a “faceless YouTube” channel I follow that reads short horror stories. Apparently YT has demonetized similar channels (maybe over being faceless, AI content, the subject matter - I legitimately have no idea). The interesting part is that they’re releasing an app for their content as the solution. I don’t know if that app will be coded using AI, but it’s an interesting solution with how accessible the tech is becoming. I can see having an App Store page being as common as having a personal web page at some point.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    I can see having an App Store page being as common as having a personal web page at some point.

    I think it'll be so, yes. Time to buy Apple Stocks then? They're gonna be getting a lot of extra $100s in annual app store dev fees.

  • AnalogMatthewAnalogMatthew

    Great article by Tom from Bedroom Producer Blog about Vibe Coded plugins
    https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2026/04/23/vibe-coding-synthedit/

  • dendydendy
    edited April 23

    This is very simple and can be boiled down to the 3 points.

    • peoole who really don’t understand coding and don’t have years (or decades) experience will produce with “vibe” coding just worthless junk. Most of “vibe” coded stuff will belong to this category.

    • people WITH experience will become thanks to agentic coding EXTREMELY efficient, capable of delive high quality apps in fraction of time needed before era of AI tools

    • people who refuse integrade AI coding very deeply in their workflow will become obsolete and will loose their jobs.

    That simple it is.

    With AI it’s really same like with cheap and accessible tons of music software - accessible powerfull tools are not guarantee that using them leads to quality result.

    One thing is undeniable - paradigmatic change in coding is here. And every coder can decide if ride the wave or become obsolete.

    Not replaced by AI. Replaced by other coders who ARE using AI.

  • heshes
    edited April 24

    @dendy said:
    This is very simple and can be boiled down to the 3 points.

    • peoole who really don’t understand coding and don’t have years (or decades) experience will produce with “vibe” coding just worthless junk. Most of “vibe” coded stuff will belong to this category.

    Isn't the recently released Augmatic GRE an example of an app that was vibe-coded by a non-coder that is generally considered on this forum to be quite a good app?

    Here's what the Augmatic dev said:

    @Augmatic said:
    I created and tested over 500 builds across six months. Sometimes, the changes were quite small, this was
    driving the number of iterations. I have a job, so I was doing this in the evenings and on weekends, whenever I
    wasn’t too tired to sit in front of a screen. Fortunately, winter was really bad this year ;-)

    I wasn’t checking the code at all, since I have zero C++ knowledge, and trying to learn it along the way would
    have taken too much time.     I asked Claude to check and clean up the code a few times as I moved from one
    feature to the next. During troubleshooting, Claude created a lot of rubbish that had to be removed several
    times. I’m sure the code is far from optimal, but... it doesn’t crash :-) Apple approved the iPad app in the first
    round. The Mac version had to be updated once - Claude enabled Bluetooth for some reason, and since it
    wasn’t actually used, Apple told me to remove it.
    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/comment/1458108/#Comment_1458108

  • suboptimalsuboptimal

    The problem with the amateurism is that the price of the app contains zero likelihood of competent support. The next OS change could brick the app and the dev has no skin in the game.

    This is why I might be willing to pay a low price, like $0.99, to someone for rolling together a vibe-coded utility that I find useful, but I've decided I won't pay pro dev prices for these apps. The value proposition isn't there. Most of these apps that are thrown together by amateurs in an evening should be given away for free, but we live in hell.

  • tubespacetubespace

    @AnalogMatthew said:
    Great article by Tom from Bedroom Producer Blog about Vibe Coded plugins
    https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2026/04/23/vibe-coding-synthedit/

    Yes - excellent points in that article, thank you. The line that stood out for me:

    "I’m not picking a side here because I don’t think there’s a clean side to pick."

    We do need to be nuanced as this is not a simple David vs Goliath or Good vs Evil scenario (unless you live your life compressing complex issues into simple terms.)

  • Fear2StopFear2Stop

    @suboptimal said:
    The problem with the amateurism is that the price of the app contains zero likelihood of competent support. The next OS change could brick the app and the dev has no skin in the game.

    This is why I might be willing to pay a low price, like $0.99, to someone for rolling together a vibe-coded utility that I find useful, but I've decided I won't pay pro dev prices for these apps. The value proposition isn't there. Most of these apps that are thrown together by amateurs in an evening should be given away for free, but we live in hell.

    Exactly … I’ll go one further and say most (not all) of these people are grifters , and it’s no different than these people who use Suno and then put it on streaming and bot the hell out of it

  • GavinskiGavinski
    edited April 24

    @tubespace said:

    @AnalogMatthew said:
    Great article by Tom from Bedroom Producer Blog about Vibe Coded plugins
    https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2026/04/23/vibe-coding-synthedit/

    Yes - excellent points in that article, thank you. The line that stood out for me:

    "I’m not picking a side here because I don’t think there’s a clean side to pick."

    We do need to be nuanced as this is not a simple David vs Goliath or Good vs Evil scenario (unless you live your life compressing complex issues into simple terms.)

    It is definitely a complex issue, that's why I said I'll judge each app on its own terms. That said, even if an app has great functionality, looks great, works great, if you suspect it's vibe coded there's always more doubt about whether the dev will a) be able to fix it b) be willing to stick around for the long term. As Suboptimal said, you suspect they just don't have the same skin in the game.

  • Slam_CutSlam_Cut

    I want an app to detect vibe-coded spam apps that are a waste of time and energy for me. Preferably dev-coded, but vibe-coded will do so as long as it works. Even better if in the app I can select the functions and features I am actually looking for and the app will keep searching for new releases that meet my criteria, and works well. The app filters crap and searches for gold. Anyone wanna create something like that?

  • drewinnitdrewinnit
    edited April 24

    I appalud all your complex takes, but i'll be sniping from the sidelines armed with a pitchfork and a misplaced sense of superiority despite having never programmed a line of code in my life

  • tubespacetubespace

    @Gavinski said:
    It is definitely a complex issue, that's why I said I'll judge each app on its own terms. That said, even if an app has great functionality, looks great, works great, if you suspect it's vibe coded there's always more doubt about whether the dev will a) be able to fix it b) be willing to stick around for the long term. As Suboptimal said, you suspect they just don't have the same skin in the game.

    That is completely valid. The code-and-run crowd are detestable for sure. I appreciate your reviews even more in this new era.

  • timfromthebordertimfromtheborder

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @timfromtheborder said:

    At least the price is right, if the bugs get fixed

  • FizzyLizzy27FizzyLizzy27

    @tubespace said:

    @Gavinski said:
    It is definitely a complex issue, that's why I said I'll judge each app on its own terms. That said, even if an app has great functionality, looks great, works great, if you suspect it's vibe coded there's always more doubt about whether the dev will a) be able to fix it b) be willing to stick around for the long term. As Suboptimal said, you suspect they just don't have the same skin in the game.

    That is completely valid. The code-and-run crowd are detestable for sure. I appreciate your reviews even more in this new era.

    “Here’s looking at you NanoStudio 2”
    -most users here, probably.

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    As OP can I just reset the tone of this thread please?

    I don’t think there is a code-and-run type in this scene and I know from my interactions that nearly every developer who gets into this is doing it for passion, creativity and curiosity. Like I have said before, I put creative arts developers in the Geeks and Gardeners’ category. Good people. Nobody in iOS music app development is getting rich off this from what I know.

    The biggest issue with vibe coded apps is people take on more than they realize, price to market, release something buggy with poor functionality, and can’t sustain it.

    Customers will rightly be frustrated but I don’t think there’s anything really underhand going on here.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:

    @tubespace said:

    @Gavinski said:
    It is definitely a complex issue, that's why I said I'll judge each app on its own terms. That said, even if an app has great functionality, looks great, works great, if you suspect it's vibe coded there's always more doubt about whether the dev will a) be able to fix it b) be willing to stick around for the long term. As Suboptimal said, you suspect they just don't have the same skin in the game.

    That is completely valid. The code-and-run crowd are detestable for sure. I appreciate your reviews even more in this new era.

    “Here’s looking at you NanoStudio 2”
    -most users here, probably.

    Definitely not me. I would put that in a very different category.

  • FizzyLizzy27FizzyLizzy27

    @AudioGus said:

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:

    @tubespace said:

    @Gavinski said:
    It is definitely a complex issue, that's why I said I'll judge each app on its own terms. That said, even if an app has great functionality, looks great, works great, if you suspect it's vibe coded there's always more doubt about whether the dev will a) be able to fix it b) be willing to stick around for the long term. As Suboptimal said, you suspect they just don't have the same skin in the game.

    That is completely valid. The code-and-run crowd are detestable for sure. I appreciate your reviews even more in this new era.

    “Here’s looking at you NanoStudio 2”
    -most users here, probably.

    Definitely not me. I would put that in a very different category.

    Yeah absolutely not for most people. My snark was supposed to highlight that any dev could have to pull the plug at some point, but kind of landed flat. That wasn’t a cash grab app, but I’m with @gusgranite that I doubt most creative apps are there for a quick buck.

    I’d imagine if you want to try to vibe code something as a cash grab you’d go with sports betting.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:

    @tubespace said:

    @Gavinski said:
    It is definitely a complex issue, that's why I said I'll judge each app on its own terms. That said, even if an app has great functionality, looks great, works great, if you suspect it's vibe coded there's always more doubt about whether the dev will a) be able to fix it b) be willing to stick around for the long term. As Suboptimal said, you suspect they just don't have the same skin in the game.

    That is completely valid. The code-and-run crowd are detestable for sure. I appreciate your reviews even more in this new era.

    “Here’s looking at you NanoStudio 2”
    -most users here, probably.

    Definitely not me. I would put that in a very different category.

    Yeah absolutely not for most people. My snark was supposed to highlight that any dev could have to pull the plug at some point, but kind of landed flat. That wasn’t a cash grab app, but I’m with @gusgranite that I doubt most creative apps are there for a quick buck.

    I’d imagine if you want to try to vibe code something as a cash grab you’d go with sports betting.

    Sports betting requires extremely secure backend work. Definitely would not be vibe coding something like that.

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