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Izotope's Iris....spectral resynthesis would be great on a touch device, almost like sample wiz meets virtual ans.
Samplr seems to have an ideal interface for this but....
@mkell424, What I was really trying to say is that in my opinion, Yamaha gave us really much of what we have today, they laid waste, at the time to many analogue goliath's with the release of the new 'FM' synths, the DX7 especially, but this revolution was short lived, when Roland released the D50, the second digital revolution, which in turn shaped where we are today. Then along came the M1, WaveStation, Triton, well King Korg...... But what is little remembered, is Yamaha also gave us computers with FM synthesis integrated as one, a rudimentary DAW of sorts. That initial success with the DX range, probably led to them to over optimistic hopes for the DX mk2's, consigned to history by Waveform synths. Today we see Roland trying to release VA recreations of their classic synths, but where are Yamaha? No Retro DX7 software synths. Yamaha's revolution led to VA synths that are descendants of FM synthesis, DAWs that started to take shape, with innovation from Yamaha. That is why in my rambling's above I believe Yamaha, gave us in part, the Digital Music World we enjoy today, but probably because of the early financial cost of this, became its 'victim' also.
@syrupcore, yes, Korg has gone from strength to strength, Yamaha and Roland seem somewhat lost, let's hope they find their way back they're sadly missed.
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@knewspeak Excellent synopsis on FM and waveform synth history! I was in Junior High School when the DX7 came out. I never thought of it as being one of the first digital synths. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the only digital synths at that time were samplers like the Fairlght, maybe the Waldorf PPG.
Thanks @mkell424, but it was quite rambling and dis-jointed, there was so much more I wanted to add about this 'Revolution', as to how they made it more portable, stable, easier to setup with a minimum of a crew and probably most importantly affordable for the 'non-pro'. As you mention the Fairlight, Waldorf PPG and not forgetting 'The New England Digital Synclavier', revolutionary yes but hardly affordable to most. But as important as Waveform synthesis is, it still needs to digitise sound to use as it's base form, whereas Yamaha and Casio used sine wave modulation algorithms to produce 'pure' digital synthesis, Roland's D50 Waveform synth then made Waveform synths 'Hip' and affordable, then along came the 'boringly' superb M1 MultiTimbral workstation, then the WaveStation wavetable-vector, so for quite sometime after this initial digital revolution waveform synthesis, including sampling dominated the scene, then along came VA......digital back to it's roots, but without the algorithmic 'nightmare', oh! and minus the step-through menus. BTW I do have a fetish for wavetable synth's, probably down to the fact that they used to cost 'The Earth'!
Strange company Yamaha. They also make motorbikes. And I think I remember seeing Yamaha tennis rackets when I was young in the 80s - unless I dreamt that bit.
I don't think there the same company @Matt_Fletcher_2000, probably a fairly common Japanese name? Yamaha - Music wise, if memory serves me I think made acoustic Piano's for quite some time. But then again there's room for more innovation the 'digital motorbike that makes a lovely racquet?'
@Tritonman2 said:
Agreed. MS 2000 would be a great addition to the Korg collection.
Might be easier to learn how to fly a plane?
Ah @knewspeak. Sure you're right. I think the tennis racquet (thank you) thing was short lived anyway.
Mine would be the Access Virus, I think it's doable in an iOS version, though I doubt it will ever happen
Korg Radius would be cool too, maybe an Emu Proteus 2500.
@knewspeak said:
No, it is the same company. They've had their hands in a number of different industries almost since the beginning: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_Corporation
I was trying to be realistic lol but ok, a dotcom modular or macbeth.
@Accent, thanks, Yes your correct, they are all parts of the same corporation, a real interesting story, one of real innovations, but shifting into to some quite almost bizarre areas and then, their 'partnership' with Korg, in and then out. From this article on the whole it appears most of their ventures are financial based rather than a passion for what they are doing, but then again that's probably just my simplification of the massively diversified corporation Yamaha is.
I want to see the ImageLine modular VST environment "MiniHost Modular" as a new type of AB host. Not sure apps have that much AB SDK access but... want. Might be doable with IAA, I dunno. Plus, piano rolls that can be triggered from an external keyboard or another piano roll? Cool.
I'd like to add a Korg King Korg as to the list...
Korg already has a pretty neat 'Tube-Amplifier' in iElectribe and i would love to run some analog sounds thru it
Korg has already done the heavy lifting with coding/number crunching with Korg Kronos so the software is already there only waiting for iOS Port of the different 'engines'.(The HD-1 is a mix of all the good stuff from M1&Wavestation + more AL-1 for analog sounds and we've already got iMS-20 and iPoly Six).
And well, the iElectribe could use a sampling companion (Even without graphical sample editing my old ES-1 is a joy to work with).
I feel 2015 will be a year of many amazing iOS music apps.
This would make a great iOS synth: EMS Synthi Hi-Fli
Never heard of the EMS Synth Hi-FI. Looks interesting. I've never heard Hi-Fi associated with a synth which makes it cool. Gotta be 1970's.
Rather than synths, I'd like to see the following:
Yes. Solid sync before any of this stuff would be dreamiest.
Yes, same company. It's a Japanese thing. Many companies make multiple classes of products.
I forget if I already posted - I want my MKS-50 (including Sysex editing) and S-550 mobile. A DX7 maybe, if it can read DX7 patches, but we may have enough power in the emerging FM synths we already have if not.
@Audiojunkie and @syrupcore, I'd agree with all the points you raise, midi sync has to be the biggest pain on iOS, somehow I only think it would work if developers got together a fixed but flexible standardised framework for apps to stick to. With Apple who knows maybe they're more focused upon the future, to the neglect of the present, the OSX hybrid? If so this could raise as many standardisation problems as it solves AU, VST's etc. to add to what is already here. Curious times indeed.
Sync is my biggest problem. Maybe developers/Apple will be able to fix it now that they have more powerful iPads to program for.
Doesn't Roland own Cakewalk, makers of the awesome Z3TA IOS synth?
I think all of our lives as musicians have been touched in one way or another by these amazing music companies: Korg, Roland and Yamaha.
Sometimes the touch is a relationship gone sour. Korg is a Dead Bedroom and Roland and Yamaha are the bad touch, IMHO.
I just said it earlier, but sync has a lot more to do with the sender than the receiver. Solid sync out=better timing. I can count on one hand the number of sync issues I've hit using hardware with solid timing. iOS needs more masters than slaves.
I'm rather late to the party, but I'll add my vote for an iPad version of the Ensoniq ESQ-1. That was my first board in 1986 and I'm still composing with it. I'd love to have the sequencer, too.
Yes
I wouldn't mind an iOS version of the Korg Prophecy. I adored that synth and used it extensively for about a decade. But I recently sold mine because programming sounds on it was just too painful. It had a beautifully expressive digital signature to its sound and was so incredibly versatile for its time.
Jp 8
Juno 106
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SQ-80 here so beautiful, incredibly warm, especially to say it has no effects.
Z1 here, even though the are related, they are quite different and not only because the prophecy is mono, but the tech used spawned and continues to, lots of synths in the Korg range, MS2000, Radius, MicroKorg etc.