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Bugs in iMini are all Retronyms fault

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  • edited March 2015

    @telecode101 said:
    Interesting. I didnt know that. I mostly use synths for pads (My leads are on guitar). Should I just spend more time reading up on Sunrizer? I was looking at iSEM just because of the reviews and fact that RetroRhytms was not the developer.

    I like to read reviews; in real life, I'm an English professor. But I think YouTube demos will do you more good. Sunrizer is my favorite for pads, especially the free "web bank" of vintage sounds from CFA. Mitosynth, Z3ta+, and Alchemy are also good pad instruments. Again, some people use iSEM for pads too -- I find its pads gritty in a way that I don't like. But these things are very personal, in the same way that a guitar is personal. Last month I bought my first electric in 25 years. If I had gone by the reviews -- and I did read as many as I could -- I would have bought the "wrong" guitar. Not a bad guitar -- even the cheapest guitars that I tried were better than that first electric I bought in high school -- just the wrong guitar for my wrist, fingers, and ear.

  • @Coloobar said:
    Z3ta+ has some retro banks. Check out the free "Muz3uM" banks that contain wav timbres of actual vintage synths. They sound pretty authentic. You need to import those wav files into Z3ta for them to sound authentic though. To do this, add the wav files to the z3ta iTunes sharing folder. Next time you launch the app it'll import them automatically.

    Thank you!

  • Two other excellent pad synths are Thor (this one can do everything) and Korg iPolysix. This last one is superb for 80s-style everything, including 80s pads.

  • edited March 2015

    As hard as I've been on retronyms, I reloaded iMini after a long time and was pleasantly surprised to find that it works well as an IAA instrument in my daw. That's more than I can say for Thor or Z3ta+ or Animoog. Stuck notes aside, I think there might be use for this app yet.... For me. Now to figure out how I loaded all of those custom presets again.

  • Not had any problems with Thor. Might be a different DAW. Actually, I adore Thor.

  • iMini has been good to me too. Once I let go of trying to use it with other synths, it's been great. :) I mainly use it to sample single notes into NanoStudio's Eden these days. Occasionally use it when playing with other humans and just want to play a good sounding synth.

    iSem, however, gets used the same way and with other synths. I'd pay $20 without hesitation. Take a while to load up on my iPad 3 but it's several orders of magnitude shorter than the time it would take me to save up for a actual SEM-8. With patch memory.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Not had any problems with Thor. Might be a different DAW. Actually, I adore Thor.

    I love it too... It shows up as an IAA instrument, but every time I've tried to load it I get no audio. Zeta+ behaves the same but I've figured out with Nave that if I load up the synth first before IAA I can now get that one to work.

  • @Coloobar Hmmm. Works fine here and consistently in AB to Auria. Also via IAA in AS (Air1/8.2).

  • @Coloobar said:
    As hard as I've been on retronyms, I reloaded iMini after a long time and was pleasantly surprised to find that it works well as an IAA instrument in my daw. That's more than I can say for Thor or Z3ta+ or Animoog. Stuck notes aside, I think there might be use for this app yet.... For me. Now to figure out how I loaded all of those custom presets again.

    how did ya and where'd those patches come from?

  • I'm guessing from here - http://arturia.com/mini-v/resources and via iTunes, but warning! it slows down the loading of the preset screen

  • edited March 2015

    thanks firejan82 , are these the same presets in the desktop app or are they something extra and why does it slow down the screen load?

  • I don't have the desktop Mini V so I don't know and I also don't know why it slows the opening of the preset screen but it does, it takes like 8 seconds on my 4th gen. I think it should be very possible and verry easy to take them out, I could try that.

  • that's ok I'm away from my desktop right now but I have the desktop apps and i'll check later, but thanks for the heads up.

  • edited March 2015

    Yes firejan and there are other free iMini V banks available around the internet.

    The process is a bit of effort, but if you follow the directions it should work with no 8 second lag between loading presets:

    1. Transfer a bank you want to import into the iMini app's Documents folder and start iMini. I recommend only importing one bank at a time or the app may crash.
    2. After it imports the banks, kill the app.
    3. Copy all of the individual patch files it just created from iMini>Library>Application Support>Machines>MiniVController>Presets>My Presets to your computer somewhere.
    4. Go in and delete the original bank file from the Documents folder.
    5. Repeat.

    Now it may come at some point iMini deletes all of the presets that you just imported. If that happens, just copy them all from the computer backup you made back into the folder listed in step 3. With some effort you'll eventually get all of the banks imported.

  • That's good insight. I decided to get rid of them, I don't think I ever used them that much, I usually start with a init preset I made.

  • To each his own, but anyone who uses iMini regularly should really check out the additional presets available. There's some really great ones that are better than the stock presets that come with the app IMO.

  • if you know of other good spots to get'em post'em up I loves me some good presets

  • edited March 2015

    The mini is such an easy synth to program why not just explore it and come up with what you like? With the 500 or so presets that are already there even if you starting by deconstructing one you like you'll come up with your own sounds. There's a reason that the minimoog, real or virtual, is used so much.

  • exactly my thoughts,i was wondering until i saw your post @mrufino1 :)

    It's a very basic structure and not rocket science.The stock presets are good (enough) as starters.It has knobs.Make use of them.You'll have a dozen new sounds already before you even imported one bank ;-) Not to mention the time you spend working thru hundreds (or thousands?)presets just to find a handful new.I made this mistake in the past as well (with other synths).It kept me from actual just MAKE music.All this"optimizing my workflow"stuff.I think sometimes i even used this as an excuse to NOT make music :) At the end i just lost a lot of time but the improvements were only a few.

  • oh for sure, I love prog synths too but for me it's like writing a song or listening to a song somebody else has written, programing synths and using presets are not mutually exclusive and there's probably no better way to learn more about synthesis : ) imho

  • @crabman, absolutely, we all have many excuses to avoid doing actual work!

    Check out the article I posted about programming, this thread and the virsyn thread reminded me of it and it changed my life for the better (well, in terms of unnecessary app spending at least!)

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