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@mister_rz, That is one juicy feature for sure!
I hope we will be able to audition notes on the keyboard to the left, in the piano roll... would be handy. Not all Piano rolls allow this!
@KING777
That's one feature I always take for granted until I use a piano roll without it, so hopefully it will be in there too, very much looking forward to this landing, along with pro-eq2.
Yeah, in some piano-rolls it's just a visual representation, but the keys lit up when Matt touched notes, so they may have proper links to midi.
I'm sure Rim is listening in and may answer without me having to jump over to the Auria Forum to ask.....
Fabfilters Pro-Q2.... Where can one start.. Brilliant stuff. They are getting it ready as we speak. (If it's not already-ready!). Hehe..
Pro-C2 on the horizon too..
Just being able to choose multiple output busses at all will be a big deal. That and upping it to 6 aux busses, that you can return to a full blown audio track, are going to seriously up the mixing game in Auria.
Parallel Compression article on Sound on Sound
I wish the plug-ins would have a full screen mode. I have a bit trouble to hit some of the tiny pro-L buttons. I'm sure all these things will follow up someday
Yeah but..
I titled the above topic:
Full Screen Option for All Plug-ins!
@syrupcore, I think the expansion and opening up (buses etc) will be felt also within the user. Upping our game too. :-)
to be clear:the current UI will STAY and you are able to switch between old and new UI...
I think it's Logic that has the 'no UI, just a list of sliders please' mode for plugins. Something like that would be useful in Auria—can go full screen because it's just built in OS sliders and can be nice and fat finger, er touch, ready.
Thank's good to know
Maybe the mixing experts here can help me one time more out since i still learning the more complex things. Since i used Logic Pro X and love the flexible bus/aux routing (which i scratched just too) and still trying to fit the little snippets from the Auria Pro teaser together (because the lack of knowledge, experience and proper english)...
Is this right that i could do then the same routing things with Auria Pro then too. Or are there differents. Sometimes it's hard for me to understand or learn these things outside of my german, sorry
Are you talking about Auria or FF?
Auria.
The current (colours) will stay the same for Auria. (As far as I know).
For Auria Pro we will have the new darker colours. I'm not sure if we will have a choice of colours/themes in Auria Pro. Hope so!
The UI hasn't changed much apart from the colour.
Going to miss the teak.
Essentially, yes. "Pro" level bussing is coming to Auria. You can send stuff to more than one bus and you can route auxes to audio channels (and then route them further... just like audio channels).
So you can do parallel busing tricks. Not just the 'smash the drums on one buss' but other fun stuff like take a mono signal, send it to two hard panned busses and put different effects on each side. With a little pitch shift and slightly different delay times, you can do great doubling effects for vocals.
You can also, say, create a reverb aux send and route it to a regular audio channel. On that channel, do the stuff you wish the reverb plugin had: some pre-compression and low/high roll off (to avoid spikes in the reverb and clear up the reverb mud). Or you can do that stuff after the reverb for special effects or to highlight particular frequencies in the reverb. You can also send some stuff to a reverb aux, some to a delay aux and then send some of that delay aux to the reverb since it's just a regular audio channel! No need for dedicated and crippled 'aux' destinations as they are now. You can route a delay/reverb back into itself! Automate the send and you have controlled feedback.
Auxes are just another bus, really. The difference being that you can set how much level is going to an aux bus from each source whereas a regular bus gets the full signal. Different uses, both very powerful and Auria Pro will open those uses right up.
Hopefully we will have the choice :-) @johnnyGoodyear..
@Cinebient, I think I know your question. I feel we will have all the flexibility we will need in that department.
Edit: I was just going to write( word for word) what @syrupcore just wrote. Saved me some time. Hehe..
Enjoy!
Noob question. Bus and subgroup is not the same obviously. What is the bus used for? Link audio channels? I was never short on options for grouping and chaining with Aux, sub and FX channels... But as mentioned very amateur here
"A bus is a connection of many different signals, seen sometimes as a channel strip’s send.
The send controls however much of the signal you want the bus to send or “transport” to a specified location, such as an auxiliary track.
An auxiliary track, unlike a bus, is an actual track available for manipulation and instantiation on your mixer.
An auxiliary track’s role is to take whatever amount of the signal that is sent to it via a bus and process it with effects like reverb, compression, delay, etc.
The auxiliary track “hosts” these effects, and an auxiliary channel with reverb is essentially your reverb – whether it is an outboard reverb unit (hardware) or a plug-in reverb (software). Another way to think of it is that Auxiliary channels are actual tracks, a destination for your buses. All buses do not have to go to auxiliary tracks, but all auxiliary channels need buses as inputs."
Also remember Audiobus..
Thank you @syrupcore!
My smile has increased @KING777, wonder if all these updates will spur more interest in the native vst plugins in auria, I'd love to see etch, as it can do wonders for bass sculpting.
@syrupcore
As I was watching I was thinking about how I do it in logic, one buss at a time, to see a list of busses that can be pressed at once, I rubbed my eyes and thought can this really be happening on my ipad, then I had a moment, it was fantastic. Think one of the things I've been thinking about is how frustrated I am in logic pro and its multicore or threading performance, I can max out one core easily with the rest barely doing anything, trying to buss fx heavy channels around only goes so far. So for me the buss thing might enable me to get a bit of extra juice out of my ipad in a much easier way than how it's handled on logic, I might be wrong and ios handles balancing tasks across cores better than osx but I do like what little I've seen of the buss so far.
@syrupcore, good vid, nice to see different ways of getting an effect. Good stuff!
@mister_rz, I think we will be pleasantly surprised at some of the Plug-ins available when 'Pro' launches.
Fingers and toes crossed! :-)
They're used differently in different contexts and I've gone and made it more confusing with my willy nilly usage. In the case of Auria, a sub group is what I was referring to as a 'bus' and an 'aux' is what I was referring to as an 'aux bus'.
They have similar characteristics: a destination to which you can send audio signals. The key difference is that with an Aux Bus you can determine how much of each signal is included (via the aux send knob) whereas with a Sub Group it's an all or nothing sort of thing.
That vocal doubling effect is a great vid, didn't even notice the arrow on the pitch shift plug till now, is amazing all the different tricks you can do with simple built in tools.
well,it seems i wasn't clear enough ;-) Rim confirmed right from the beginning that you can choose between the old Auria look and the new one.It's not only the colour/brightness.It's also a choice between (old)skeuomorphism/bitmaps and vector graphic (new)
Well, now i saw that moment in the video where he just set up several busses in the output via one step. This looks indeed great. I break my mind to do things like this in Logic Pro X. I have the feeling Auria Pro bus routing is even a lot more flexibel than Logic Pro X. Or i just didn't know how to achieve that in Logic. However it looks fast and easy in Auria this way. Impressive!
@KING777, @syrupcore thanks for 'clarification'. Can your ears still follow that routing?That's a sick amount of possibilities and processing power. Impressive! Auria with plugins is a synthesizer by itself...
Yes @Crabman, hehe. O I C. You were making a statement. There was no question mark.
Nice one, Yeah we're on the same page!
Good good! :-)
Well having the choice has made it even greater!
Hey @Peanutcram, not forgetting, unlimited tracks!
Did I hear your mind just blow!!!
I need more videos now It's already spring. I wonder also if we could save some of these routings as performance or instruments if we want. So a bit like a save state Audiobus preset without having to use a whole prj. template for this. Now i want to have a proper folder structure too
Maybe i want too much again. One for sure... if there is an iOS DAW which is made for the maybe (or maybe not) coming bigger and more powerful iPad Pro then it's Auria Pro.
After reading the Auria forum and watching some more videos i think it's a great addition to a desktop DAW. The same pro level but with some easier tasks. It can not do all what Logic can do for me but it can do some things i can't do with it (or it's way more complicated). It seems the first iOS DAW which is on par with the big boys. I'm maybe not so euphoric like some others they rave about it like it will be THE DAW to rule the world but i think it's fair to say that there will be just a new big player in the world wide DAW available which is on par with the common famous players. At least it's the most full featured touch based mobile DAW in the world then (FL-Studio 12 is another thing of it's own).
Respect!