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New Moog Animoog Z AUV3 Released!

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  • edited November 2021

    @tja said:
    As I am not completely sure, this "Animoog Z" is a new version of "Animoog" that also works as AU?

    Can it do everything that the old Animoog did and does and just adds AUv3?

    I read the App description bit still am not sure what exactly this is.

    It does everything Animoog does but it (a) is 16-note polyphonic, (b) extends some of the old functionality - e.g. ten mod slots up from 4, three LFOs up from 1, (c) has a bunch of new features such as an arpeggiator, (d) extends the paths and orbits into three dimensions (using some complicated algorithm I haven't yet figured out), and (e) a whole bunch more. Oh yes, it can be an AU. If you are familiar with the old Animoog it will be a very easy transition, as most of the core functions work just the same.

    Not so keen on the name, but at least they didn't go with 'AnimAUg' :neutral:

  • @Zerozerozero said:

    @wim said:

    @Zerozerozero said:

    @wim said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    I cannot get on board with not using something because of battery drain. That’s plain silly. Plus, it’ll probably get optimized over time.

    You might if your primary usage was on a phone away from the house. There are such critters I’ve heard.

    +1!
    They’ve swapped an IAA with low cpu for an auv3 that I would never use (and locked the buffer setting)
    Forward step for app design but they need to apply some practicality to this.

    People keep saying that about the buffer setting, but I see multiple buffer settings available. I think that’s a bit of misinformation.

    Settings not available in my phone and says it in the manual

    How odd. It's there on iPad.
    It literally has to adopt the host buffer setting if it's working as an AU, so this must only affect the standalone.
    Interestingly the standalone is fixed at 512 on my iPhone 7s.

  • wimwim
    edited November 2021

    @espiegel123 said:
    @wim: the buffer limitation is on the iPhone. I am guessing that you are seeing those options on an iPad not an iPhone. Is that correct?

    Yes. Indeed it is set (though at 512) on my iPhone.

    The AU has to adopt the host buffer setting, so it must be able to change internally. Puzzling design choice.

  • edited November 2021

    They really should’ve just called it Animoog since it seems they pulled the old one from the store. But if that’s my only nitpick, we’re in good territory.

  • @wim said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    @wim: the buffer limitation is on the iPhone. I am guessing that you are seeing those options on an iPad not an iPhone. Is that correct?

    Yes. Indeed it is set (though at 512) on my iPhone.

    The AU has to adopt the host buffer setting, so it must be able to change internally. Puzzling design choice.

    Interesting that it is 512 on your phone. On most people's it seems to be 256.

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  • @uncledave said:

    @ghost_forests said:
    Could someone kindly point me to the manual?

    https://animoog-z-manual.webflow.io/
    It's a web link from inside the (free) app.

    Thanks! Didn’t even notice that 😂

  • @tja said:
    EDIT: I tried to simply disable access for Animoog Z in the iCloud settings, but that did not create a folder on my iPad. It seems that the iCloud folder is still used.

    Or maybe just a hidden folder on the iPad. Only some apps expose their files, and even then not all of them. Whereas files on iCloud Drive are always exposed, I believe.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    Interesting that it is 512 on your phone. On most people's it seems to be 256.

    Yeah just checked on the 13 Pro and it's 256 for me as well.

  • Finally an advantage of having crappy old hardware. :D

  • @wim said:
    Finally an advantage of having crappy old hardware. :D

    Ummm.... did you forget the part about easily being able to replay Oregon Trail 3rd Edition??

  • Also this might be a hot take, but I'm pretty confident in saying that Animoog Z is now by far the best sounding synth on the iPad.

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  • @oat_phipps said:
    This thing is amazing. In love all over again. It jhas such a unique sound that is undeniably its own. Just going through the presets, I favorited a fair number and realized having that consistent Animoog sound could be perfect as the only synth on the album for the type of guitar-driven pop music I’m doing (in the vein of everything from 1977-1983, with a touch of later 80s Def Leppard hair ballads in there). I like to keep albums consistent with instrumentation and tones throughout.

    Yep, like mini 80s symphonies in each preset.

  • edited November 2021

    @sclurbs said:
    Also this might be a hot take, but I'm pretty confident in saying that Animoog Z is now by far the best sounding synth on the iPad.

    It’s the most unique with a signature character that you won’t find anywhere else, especially when using the ribbon controller. As far as total richness of sound I’d give it to Model 15 (dat bass thump, although Animoog excels at high frequency content) and OB-Xd, possibly the TAL Uno as well. But I’d say it’s easily THE best iPad synth ever, my favorite, and even worth buying an iPad for.

    I’ve just gotten a hardware Sequential Take 5 in the last couple weeks, awesome in its own right, and even it has taken a backseat to Animoog for the moment.

  • This thing really invites sitting down and just jamming out leads by sliding around on the keyboard like no other iPad synth. Even for terrible players like myself.

  • @tja said:
    Dear @MoogMusicInc

    The trick with moving the Animoog zip file to the iCloud folder of Animoog Z helped and I now have the old presets available. Still, adding a regular import function would be best.

    But....

    I cannot see the usual option to change the "Document Storage" in the Settings from "iCloud" to "On my iPad", as I did with all other Apps.
    I don't want any App to write to iCloud!

    Do you plan to add this option, or will Animoog Z only be able to use iCloud?

    EDIT: I tried to simply disable access for Animoog Z in the iCloud settings, but that did not create a folder on my iPad. It seems that the iCloud folder is still used.

    Hi Tja,

    Animoog Z only uses iCloud as a backup when you save your own presets, not for its own document storage. Animoog Z uses a local folder that you can't see due to how Apple set up the sandboxing infrastructure. If we want to allow the AUv3 versions and the standalone version to see the same files, we need to create what is called an Application Group and store all the files into that group. Regrettably, iOS completely hides this group from the user and there's no way to directly access the files there. We have been looking for another way to still use the standard application documents folder, but haven't been able to find one.

    <3 your friends at Moog

  • edited November 2021

    @MoogMusicInc : I am finding that to send MPE to the AUv3 (which has its midi settings set to MPE), I sometimes have to switch the MIDI Input to Omni and and send MIDI to the AUv3 before I can have the AU be responsive to MPE input. If I don't do that, Animoog Z doesn't respond to the MIDI input. I can see the green LED in Animoog Z's MIDI settings flashing. So, it is seeing the MIDI but not reacting. Switching to Omni and back to MPE fixes it.

    Also, even if one has Garageband set to record MPE, the MIDI it records from Animoog does not result in a matching performance when played back. Pitch sliding seems not to sound right.

    ALSO: Animoog Z is a glorious synth.

  • @MoogMusicInc said:

    @tja said:
    Dear @MoogMusicInc

    The trick with moving the Animoog zip file to the iCloud folder of Animoog Z helped and I now have the old presets available. Still, adding a regular import function would be best.

    But....

    I cannot see the usual option to change the "Document Storage" in the Settings from "iCloud" to "On my iPad", as I did with all other Apps.
    I don't want any App to write to iCloud!

    Do you plan to add this option, or will Animoog Z only be able to use iCloud?

    EDIT: I tried to simply disable access for Animoog Z in the iCloud settings, but that did not create a folder on my iPad. It seems that the iCloud folder is still used.

    Hi Tja,

    Animoog Z only uses iCloud as a backup when you save your own presets, not for its own document storage. Animoog Z uses a local folder that you can't see due to how Apple set up the sandboxing infrastructure. If we want to allow the AUv3 versions and the standalone version to see the same files, we need to create what is called an Application Group and store all the files into that group. Regrettably, iOS completely hides this group from the user and there's no way to directly access the files there. We have been looking for another way to still use the standard application documents folder, but haven't been able to find one.

    <3 your friends at Moog

    So document storage is only “On My iPad” correct? Since you can export all preset files and store them anywhere you want, I don’t see this as a issue. Once you’ve done a backup you would only have to do another if you created or imported more presets. It only takes a minute to do.

    I didn’t have any issue importing presets because my sharesheet always showed AZ as a destination. I didn’t have to delete any apps. I have around 200 installed right now.

    After doing some searching online, it seems the general consensus is that the sharesheet is buggy and nothing anyone suggested as fixes approached the problem of apps not showing up.

    I also saw some indications that devs have to implement something to make it work but I got bored before I found any indication as to what that was referring to. Also, since it always works for me I’ll leave it to others to labor over. 😂😂😂

  • @espiegel123 said:
    @MoogMusicInc : I am finding that to send MPE to the AUv3 (which has its midi settings set to MPE), I sometimes have to switch the MIDI Input to Omni and and send MIDI to the AUv3 before I can have the AU be responsive to MPE input. If I don't do that, Animoog Z doesn't respond to the MIDI input. I can see the green LED in Animoog Z's MIDI settings flashing. So, it is seeing the MIDI but not reacting. Switching to Omni and back to MPE fixes it.

    Also, even if one has Garageband set to record MPE, the MIDI it records from Animoog does not result in a matching performance when played back. Pitch sliding seems not to sound right.

    ALSO: Animoog Z is a glorious synth.

    Hi espiegel123,

    We're currently looking into the MPE behavior as an AUv3. Somehow Animoog Z is not receiving the RPN messages that set up MPE and that are intended to switch it into the right mode. Without those messages, there is some manual configuration required which we would like to avoid. We hope to be able to improve this with an update or through collaborations with host application developers in case this is outside of our control.

    For pitch sliding to sound right, the pitch bend range should be set to 48 (the standard setting for MPE), since RPN messages are not transferred correctly, this is also not configured automatically as we would like it to be. There might be other issues with recording MPE messages in individual hosts, especially related to the timestamps and ordering of the MIDI messages. If the order if even slightly changed, the performance can sound different. We recommend you report this to the developers of your preferred host.

    Thanks for the praise!

    <3 your friends at Moog

  • @MoogMusicInc said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    @MoogMusicInc : I am finding that to send MPE to the AUv3 (which has its midi settings set to MPE), I sometimes have to switch the MIDI Input to Omni and and send MIDI to the AUv3 before I can have the AU be responsive to MPE input. If I don't do that, Animoog Z doesn't respond to the MIDI input. I can see the green LED in Animoog Z's MIDI settings flashing. So, it is seeing the MIDI but not reacting. Switching to Omni and back to MPE fixes it.

    Also, even if one has Garageband set to record MPE, the MIDI it records from Animoog does not result in a matching performance when played back. Pitch sliding seems not to sound right.

    ALSO: Animoog Z is a glorious synth.

    Hi espiegel123,

    We're currently looking into the MPE behavior as an AUv3. Somehow Animoog Z is not receiving the RPN messages that set up MPE and that are intended to switch it into the right mode. Without those messages, there is some manual configuration required which we would like to avoid. We hope to be able to improve this with an update or through collaborations with host application developers in case this is outside of our control.

    For pitch sliding to sound right, the pitch bend range should be set to 48 (the standard setting for MPE), since RPN messages are not transferred correctly, this is also not configured automatically as we would like it to be. There might be other issues with recording MPE messages in individual hosts, especially related to the timestamps and ordering of the MIDI messages. If the order if even slightly changed, the performance can sound different. We recommend you report this to the developers of your preferred host.

    Thanks for the praise!

    <3 your friends at Moog

    Thanks for the response. FWIW, from the reports that I have seen it is having some trouble in all hosts including Cubasis, Garageband and Atom 2 which are the only sequencers I know that handle MPE recording and playback.

  • @anickt said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @tja said:
    Dear @MoogMusicInc

    The trick with moving the Animoog zip file to the iCloud folder of Animoog Z helped and I now have the old presets available. Still, adding a regular import function would be best.

    But....

    I cannot see the usual option to change the "Document Storage" in the Settings from "iCloud" to "On my iPad", as I did with all other Apps.
    I don't want any App to write to iCloud!

    Do you plan to add this option, or will Animoog Z only be able to use iCloud?

    EDIT: I tried to simply disable access for Animoog Z in the iCloud settings, but that did not create a folder on my iPad. It seems that the iCloud folder is still used.

    Hi Tja,

    Animoog Z only uses iCloud as a backup when you save your own presets, not for its own document storage. Animoog Z uses a local folder that you can't see due to how Apple set up the sandboxing infrastructure. If we want to allow the AUv3 versions and the standalone version to see the same files, we need to create what is called an Application Group and store all the files into that group. Regrettably, iOS completely hides this group from the user and there's no way to directly access the files there. We have been looking for another way to still use the standard application documents folder, but haven't been able to find one.

    <3 your friends at Moog

    So document storage is only “On My iPad” correct? Since you can export all preset files and store them anywhere you want, I don’t see this as a issue. Once you’ve done a backup you would only have to do another if you created or imported more presets. It only takes a minute to do.

    I didn’t have any issue importing presets because my sharesheet always showed AZ as a destination. I didn’t have to delete any apps. I have around 200 installed right now.

    After doing some searching online, it seems the general consensus is that the sharesheet is buggy and nothing anyone suggested as fixes approached the problem of apps not showing up.

    I also saw some indications that devs have to implement something to make it work but I got bored before I found any indication as to what that was referring to. Also, since it always works for me I’ll leave it to others to labor over. 😂😂😂

    Hi anickt,

    Yes, document storage is only "On My iPad", it the standard application documents folder that each application always had on iOS, that used to be exposed through iTunes File Sharing only, and that can now be exposed in the Files app if the application opts-in for it.

    If iCloud is enabled, Animoog Z will automatically save a copy of any preset you save on the synth in iCloud. These are available through Settings > Share > iCloud Documents or through the Files app (or Finder on macOS). This can be used to easily access your latest version across different devices, but also provides a safety backup for all the presets you create.

    <3 your friends at Moog

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    @MoogMusicInc : I am finding that to send MPE to the AUv3 (which has its midi settings set to MPE), I sometimes have to switch the MIDI Input to Omni and and send MIDI to the AUv3 before I can have the AU be responsive to MPE input. If I don't do that, Animoog Z doesn't respond to the MIDI input. I can see the green LED in Animoog Z's MIDI settings flashing. So, it is seeing the MIDI but not reacting. Switching to Omni and back to MPE fixes it.

    Also, even if one has Garageband set to record MPE, the MIDI it records from Animoog does not result in a matching performance when played back. Pitch sliding seems not to sound right.

    ALSO: Animoog Z is a glorious synth.

    Hi espiegel123,

    We're currently looking into the MPE behavior as an AUv3. Somehow Animoog Z is not receiving the RPN messages that set up MPE and that are intended to switch it into the right mode. Without those messages, there is some manual configuration required which we would like to avoid. We hope to be able to improve this with an update or through collaborations with host application developers in case this is outside of our control.

    For pitch sliding to sound right, the pitch bend range should be set to 48 (the standard setting for MPE), since RPN messages are not transferred correctly, this is also not configured automatically as we would like it to be. There might be other issues with recording MPE messages in individual hosts, especially related to the timestamps and ordering of the MIDI messages. If the order if even slightly changed, the performance can sound different. We recommend you report this to the developers of your preferred host.

    Thanks for the praise!

    <3 your friends at Moog

    Thanks for the response. FWIW, from the reports that I have seen it is having some trouble in all hosts including Cubasis, Garageband and Atom 2 which are the only sequencers I know that handle MPE recording and playback.

    Yes, we're seeing that too and are investigating why this is happening, Animoog Z is sending and able to receive these messages just fine but they somehow seem to get lost when going through the AUv3 MIDI infrastructure.

    <3 your friends at Moog

  • @MoogMusicInc said:

    @anickt said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @tja said:
    Dear @MoogMusicInc

    The trick with moving the Animoog zip file to the iCloud folder of Animoog Z helped and I now have the old presets available. Still, adding a regular import function would be best.

    But....

    I cannot see the usual option to change the "Document Storage" in the Settings from "iCloud" to "On my iPad", as I did with all other Apps.
    I don't want any App to write to iCloud!

    Do you plan to add this option, or will Animoog Z only be able to use iCloud?

    EDIT: I tried to simply disable access for Animoog Z in the iCloud settings, but that did not create a folder on my iPad. It seems that the iCloud folder is still used.

    Hi Tja,

    Animoog Z only uses iCloud as a backup when you save your own presets, not for its own document storage. Animoog Z uses a local folder that you can't see due to how Apple set up the sandboxing infrastructure. If we want to allow the AUv3 versions and the standalone version to see the same files, we need to create what is called an Application Group and store all the files into that group. Regrettably, iOS completely hides this group from the user and there's no way to directly access the files there. We have been looking for another way to still use the standard application documents folder, but haven't been able to find one.

    <3 your friends at Moog

    So document storage is only “On My iPad” correct? Since you can export all preset files and store them anywhere you want, I don’t see this as a issue. Once you’ve done a backup you would only have to do another if you created or imported more presets. It only takes a minute to do.

    I didn’t have any issue importing presets because my sharesheet always showed AZ as a destination. I didn’t have to delete any apps. I have around 200 installed right now.

    After doing some searching online, it seems the general consensus is that the sharesheet is buggy and nothing anyone suggested as fixes approached the problem of apps not showing up.

    I also saw some indications that devs have to implement something to make it work but I got bored before I found any indication as to what that was referring to. Also, since it always works for me I’ll leave it to others to labor over. 😂😂😂

    Hi anickt,

    Yes, document storage is only "On My iPad", it the standard application documents folder that each application always had on iOS, that used to be exposed through iTunes File Sharing only, and that can now be exposed in the Files app if the application opts-in for it.

    If iCloud is enabled, Animoog Z will automatically save a copy of any preset you save on the synth in iCloud. These are available through Settings > Share > iCloud Documents or through the Files app (or Finder on macOS). This can be used to easily access your latest version across different devices, but also provides a safety backup for all the presets you create.

    <3 your friends at Moog

    That all works for me. Thanks! @MoogMusicInc 😎👍🏼

  • It is a lot of fun to play with but it’s CPU usage is through the roof. Similar to SWAM instruments.

  • @oat_phipps said:
    This thing is amazing. In love all over again. It jhas such a unique sound that is undeniably its own. Just going through the presets, I favorited a fair number and realized having that consistent Animoog sound could be perfect as the only synth on the album for the type of guitar-driven pop music I’m doing (in the vein of everything from 1977-1983, with a touch of later 80s Def Leppard hair ballads in there). I like to keep albums consistent with instrumentation and tones throughout.

    As a means to better understand this thing I went ahead and recorded a simple “uhmmmm” vocal into a timber. If you then play the timber, with no added stuff, the sound is completely different. It’s got all these added harmonics and totally different character. I believe that’s Animoog imparting “it’s thing”.

  • @MoogMusicInc

    I can’t follow the import instructions because I wasn’t updated to the latest version of legacy app before you pulled it from the App Store. So I don’t have the required folder structure in Files to zip & export anything.

    Which makes me pretty sad because I bought every IAP for the original. And now that you’ve pulled it off the store if I ever lose it due to some iPad catastrophe it will be gone forever, and won’t have a way to use all the things I’ve bought or created in the new Z app.

    Keeping the legacy app on the Store with a warning that it’s been depreciated and is no longer maintained would solve this issue. Otherwise I’m not sure what options I have.

    Any help or info would be appreciated

  • @Druzy check in your Purchased Items in the App Store. The old Animoog should be there and you should be able to update it.

    Just because they pulled it from sale doesn’t mean they pulled it altogether. You haven’t lost anything and aren’t likely to.

  • @wim said:
    @Druzy check in your Purchased Items in the App Store. The old Animoog should be there and you should be able to update it.

    Just because they pulled it from sale doesn’t mean they pulled it altogether. You haven’t lost anything and aren’t likely to.

    Thank you! It wasn’t showing up in my Updates or Search so I couldn’t figure out how to update it. Didn’t think to look in Purchased. Whew.

    I hope things go smoothly with the new version because if I ever change iPads the old app will be gone for good :'( I haven’t synced using iTunes on a Mac in years and as far as I know that’s the only way to keep apps that have been deleted from the App Store unfortunately.

    I’m sure it’ll be fine, I’m just very sentimentally attached to the old version and resist change haha

  • @Druzy said:
    I haven’t synced using iTunes on a Mac in years and as far as I know that’s the only way to keep apps that have been deleted from the App Store unfortunately.

    You’ll still be able to install it from the Purchased section of the App Store. As @wim said, it’s only been pulled from sale.

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