Loopy Pro: FIRST LOOK

cyberheater · December 2021

Anyone know how to extract samples from Apps like Launchpad to use with this?

[Deleted User] · December 2021

@cyberheater said:
Anyone know how to extract samples from Apps like Launchpad to use with this?

You can use the record function in Launchpad. (the recordings are quantized to the beat)
I think there’s no ‘direct export’ in Launchpad?

MadGav · December 2021

@espiegel123 said:
Btw, I want to say...that Loopy Pro has a lot to offer even if one isn't into looping. It is a great sketchpad and idea collector...particular with the retrospective looper that lets you simply play and play and play and then say "i liked that last bit", tap a loop and that last 2 or 4 or 8 bars or whatever gets added.

I think I could do with this to make jamming productive, I have a less-than-functional habit of playing then just walking away…

At this point in time if I’m going to spend-to-support imho it’s the host developers that need it.

gregsmith · December 2021

@krassmann said:
@gregsmith yes this is exactly the technique that I meant. I’ve seen this video some time ago but unfortunately I didn’t bookmark it. Now I did. Thanks. I successfully adopted this technique with my Arturia BeatStep Pro that drives an iPad drum app. It‘s really working well.

@espiegel123 Thanks for sharing. So theoretically it would be possible. I just think it might be a bit tricky to control this setup in a live situation. Do you think one of Loopy‘s UI widgets could control the recording of Atom 2?

I think it would be so cool if Loopy would already embed everything that is needed for the Jeff Mills technique so we wouldn’t have to struggle with wiring up Atom 2. But AFAIK Michael plans to add Midi features later on. So this would be on my wishlist.

There’s a strange bug with atom2 in loopy at the moment so I can’t confirm the Jeff Mills hypothesis.

I know Michael has all sorts of midi plans coming. I have no problem with using atom for the time being.

Here’s a couple of ways I’m going to test:

Route the audio source (eg koala) to a donut with retro record on. Route midi controller into atom, into the audio source. Tap out a beat, recording midi into atom2. When it finishes playing the quantised loop, hit the donut to grab it as a retro record. Stop atom / mute the audio source.
Setup as in 1 but with threshold recording rather than retro on the donut. Turn off midi thru in atom (this should effectively mute but still save the notes to the roll, right???). Tap out the beat in time. (Might need to turn midi thru back on at this point?). Let it play the quantised loop - the donut will automatically grab this with threshold recording.

krassmann · December 2021

@gregsmith said:

@krassmann said:
@gregsmith yes this is exactly the technique that I meant. I’ve seen this video some time ago but unfortunately I didn’t bookmark it. Now I did. Thanks. I successfully adopted this technique with my Arturia BeatStep Pro that drives an iPad drum app. It‘s really working well.

@espiegel123 Thanks for sharing. So theoretically it would be possible. I just think it might be a bit tricky to control this setup in a live situation. Do you think one of Loopy‘s UI widgets could control the recording of Atom 2?

I think it would be so cool if Loopy would already embed everything that is needed for the Jeff Mills technique so we wouldn’t have to struggle with wiring up Atom 2. But AFAIK Michael plans to add Midi features later on. So this would be on my wishlist.

There’s a strange bug with atom2 in loopy at the moment so I can’t confirm the Jeff Mills hypothesis.

There is a strange looping behavior of Atom 2 in Cubasis when Cubasis is also looping. Both loops don’t get along. AFAIK both devs blame each other. Is this a similar issue?

I know Michael has all sorts of midi plans coming. I have no problem with using atom for the time being.

Here’s a couple of ways I’m going to test:

Route the audio source (eg koala) to a donut with retro record on. Route midi controller into atom, into the audio source. Tap out a beat, recording midi into atom2. When it finishes playing the quantised loop, hit the donut to grab it as a retro record. Stop atom / mute the audio source.

Setup as in 1 but with threshold recording rather than retro on the donut. Turn off midi thru in atom (this should effectively mute but still save the notes to the roll, right???). Tap out the beat in time. (Might need to turn midi thru back on at this point?). Let it play the quantised loop - the donut will automatically grab this with threshold recording.

Sounds like a plan (or two). Please let uns know how it works out for you.

gregsmith · December 2021

@krassmann said:

@gregsmith said:

@krassmann said:
@gregsmith yes this is exactly the technique that I meant. I’ve seen this video some time ago but unfortunately I didn’t bookmark it. Now I did. Thanks. I successfully adopted this technique with my Arturia BeatStep Pro that drives an iPad drum app. It‘s really working well.

@espiegel123 Thanks for sharing. So theoretically it would be possible. I just think it might be a bit tricky to control this setup in a live situation. Do you think one of Loopy‘s UI widgets could control the recording of Atom 2?

I think it would be so cool if Loopy would already embed everything that is needed for the Jeff Mills technique so we wouldn’t have to struggle with wiring up Atom 2. But AFAIK Michael plans to add Midi features later on. So this would be on my wishlist.

There’s a strange bug with atom2 in loopy at the moment so I can’t confirm the Jeff Mills hypothesis.

There is a strange looping behavior of Atom 2 in Cubasis when Cubasis is also looping. Both loops don’t get along. AFAIK both devs blame each other. Is this a similar issue?

Don’t think so, no. This is something to do with not all the midi notes sounding.

I know Michael has all sorts of midi plans coming. I have no problem with using atom for the time being.

Here’s a couple of ways I’m going to test:

Route the audio source (eg koala) to a donut with retro record on. Route midi controller into atom, into the audio source. Tap out a beat, recording midi into atom2. When it finishes playing the quantised loop, hit the donut to grab it as a retro record. Stop atom / mute the audio source.

Setup as in 1 but with threshold recording rather than retro on the donut. Turn off midi thru in atom (this should effectively mute but still save the notes to the roll, right???). Tap out the beat in time. (Might need to turn midi thru back on at this point?). Let it play the quantised loop - the donut will automatically grab this with threshold recording.

Sounds like a plan (or two). Please let uns know how it works out for you.

Will do! 👍

gregsmith · December 2021

@janpieter said:

@krassmann said:
@gregsmith yes this is exactly the technique that I meant. I’ve seen this video some time ago but unfortunately I didn’t bookmark it. Now I did. Thanks. I successfully adopted this technique with my Arturia BeatStep Pro that drives an iPad drum app. It‘s really working well.

@espiegel123 Thanks for sharing. So theoretically it would be possible. I just think it might be a bit tricky to control this setup in a live situation. Do you think one of Loopy‘s UI widgets could control the recording of Atom 2?

I think it would be so cool if Loopy would already embed everything that is needed for the Jeff Mills technique so we wouldn’t have to struggle with wiring up Atom 2. But AFAIK Michael plans to add Midi features later on. So this would be on my wishlist.

I think this is what you mean? Seems easily doable. (though I think Atom is not yet fully stable transmitting the notes as you hear, or might be user error…)
[Xequence keyboard recording in Atom that quantizes the bunch then unmuting Poison)

Sorry, missed this! That’s basically it, yeah. I think that’s the same atom2 loopy bug I’m getting. It doesn’t seem to happen with every synth

gregsmith · December 2021

@gregsmith said:

@krassmann said:

@gregsmith said:

@krassmann said:
@gregsmith yes this is exactly the technique that I meant. I’ve seen this video some time ago but unfortunately I didn’t bookmark it. Now I did. Thanks. I successfully adopted this technique with my Arturia BeatStep Pro that drives an iPad drum app. It‘s really working well.

@espiegel123 Thanks for sharing. So theoretically it would be possible. I just think it might be a bit tricky to control this setup in a live situation. Do you think one of Loopy‘s UI widgets could control the recording of Atom 2?

I think it would be so cool if Loopy would already embed everything that is needed for the Jeff Mills technique so we wouldn’t have to struggle with wiring up Atom 2. But AFAIK Michael plans to add Midi features later on. So this would be on my wishlist.

There’s a strange bug with atom2 in loopy at the moment so I can’t confirm the Jeff Mills hypothesis.

There is a strange looping behavior of Atom 2 in Cubasis when Cubasis is also looping. Both loops don’t get along. AFAIK both devs blame each other. Is this a similar issue?

Don’t think so, no. This is something to do with not all the midi notes sounding.

I know Michael has all sorts of midi plans coming. I have no problem with using atom for the time being.

Here’s a couple of ways I’m going to test:

Route the audio source (eg koala) to a donut with retro record on. Route midi controller into atom, into the audio source. Tap out a beat, recording midi into atom2. When it finishes playing the quantised loop, hit the donut to grab it as a retro record. Stop atom / mute the audio source.

Setup as in 1 but with threshold recording rather than retro on the donut. Turn off midi thru in atom (this should effectively mute but still save the notes to the roll, right???). Tap out the beat in time. (Might need to turn midi thru back on at this point?). Let it play the quantised loop - the donut will automatically grab this with threshold recording.

Sounds like a plan (or two). Please let uns know how it works out for you.

Will do! 👍

Ok, here’s a video test 1 on iPhone. I used Drambo’s sequencer for the quantized midi to get round the atom2 bug.

So the first loop you hear is me playing sloppy, second is Drambo playing it back quantized, third is the donut + Drambo as I didn’t mute it quickly enough 😂, but then I switch to an empty pattern so you can hear just the donut.

Presumably it’s easy enough to mute and unmute Drambo Jeff Mills stylee, but it was already fiddly enough on iPhone!

[Deleted User] · December 2021

@gregsmith said:

@janpieter said:

@krassmann said:
@gregsmith yes this is exactly the technique that I meant. I’ve seen this video some time ago but unfortunately I didn’t bookmark it. Now I did. Thanks. I successfully adopted this technique with my Arturia BeatStep Pro that drives an iPad drum app. It‘s really working well.

@espiegel123 Thanks for sharing. So theoretically it would be possible. I just think it might be a bit tricky to control this setup in a live situation. Do you think one of Loopy‘s UI widgets could control the recording of Atom 2?

I think it would be so cool if Loopy would already embed everything that is needed for the Jeff Mills technique so we wouldn’t have to struggle with wiring up Atom 2. But AFAIK Michael plans to add Midi features later on. So this would be on my wishlist.

I think this is what you mean? Seems easily doable. (though I think Atom is not yet fully stable transmitting the notes as you hear, or might be user error…)
[Xequence keyboard recording in Atom that quantizes the bunch then unmuting Poison)

Sorry, missed this! That’s basically it, yeah. I think that’s the same atom2 loopy bug I’m getting. It doesn’t seem to happen with every synth

LK doesn’t seem to have Atom’s troubles.. But I don’t know how to let LK quantize immediately after recording (I can only do it by selecting the notes and then quantizing, which works fine)
edit: t was right in front of me just not used to LK, but fun this method..

gregsmith · December 2021

@janpieter said:

@gregsmith said:

@janpieter said:

@krassmann said:
@gregsmith yes this is exactly the technique that I meant. I’ve seen this video some time ago but unfortunately I didn’t bookmark it. Now I did. Thanks. I successfully adopted this technique with my Arturia BeatStep Pro that drives an iPad drum app. It‘s really working well.

@espiegel123 Thanks for sharing. So theoretically it would be possible. I just think it might be a bit tricky to control this setup in a live situation. Do you think one of Loopy‘s UI widgets could control the recording of Atom 2?

I think it would be so cool if Loopy would already embed everything that is needed for the Jeff Mills technique so we wouldn’t have to struggle with wiring up Atom 2. But AFAIK Michael plans to add Midi features later on. So this would be on my wishlist.

I think this is what you mean? Seems easily doable. (though I think Atom is not yet fully stable transmitting the notes as you hear, or might be user error…)
[Xequence keyboard recording in Atom that quantizes the bunch then unmuting Poison)

Sorry, missed this! That’s basically it, yeah. I think that’s the same atom2 loopy bug I’m getting. It doesn’t seem to happen with every synth

LK doesn’t seem to have Atom’s troubles.. But I don’t know how to let LK quantize immediately after recording (I can only do it by selecting the notes and then quantizing, which works fine)
edit: t was right in front of me just not used to LK, but fun this method..

Oh that’s good. Last time I tried LK in loopy it had similar issues to atom2, just not as bad, so I assumed it was the same bug.

RajahP · December 2021

@cyberheater said:
Anyone know how to extract samples from Apps like Launchpad to use with this?

[Deleted User] · December 2021

@gregsmith said:

@janpieter said:

@gregsmith said:

@janpieter said:

@krassmann said:
@gregsmith yes this is exactly the technique that I meant. I’ve seen this video some time ago but unfortunately I didn’t bookmark it. Now I did. Thanks. I successfully adopted this technique with my Arturia BeatStep Pro that drives an iPad drum app. It‘s really working well.

@espiegel123 Thanks for sharing. So theoretically it would be possible. I just think it might be a bit tricky to control this setup in a live situation. Do you think one of Loopy‘s UI widgets could control the recording of Atom 2?

I think it would be so cool if Loopy would already embed everything that is needed for the Jeff Mills technique so we wouldn’t have to struggle with wiring up Atom 2. But AFAIK Michael plans to add Midi features later on. So this would be on my wishlist.

I think this is what you mean? Seems easily doable. (though I think Atom is not yet fully stable transmitting the notes as you hear, or might be user error…)
[Xequence keyboard recording in Atom that quantizes the bunch then unmuting Poison)

Sorry, missed this! That’s basically it, yeah. I think that’s the same atom2 loopy bug I’m getting. It doesn’t seem to happen with every synth

LK doesn’t seem to have Atom’s troubles.. But I don’t know how to let LK quantize immediately after recording (I can only do it by selecting the notes and then quantizing, which works fine)
edit: t was right in front of me just not used to LK, but fun this method..

Oh that’s good. Last time I tried LK in loopy it had similar issues to atom2, just not as bad, so I assumed it was the same bug.

Loopy and Xequence also seem to get along on a first try-out (Ableton start/stop, playing an AU in Loopy via Xequence MIDI, MIDI learn). And you can have ‘‘em both on the same screen.

BladeRunner · December 2021

Has anyone tried using any of the Lumbeat apps like Soft Drummer together with Loopy Pro?
I am hoping it will work as well as the Lumbeat integration that Quantiloop supports.

krassmann · December 2021

@gregsmith and @janpieter thanks for your testing. Good to know that this basically works. It’s probably the question if this is a feasible workflow or if it is maybe too fiddly. BTW, how to make LK auto quantize after record?

espiegel123 · December 2021

@BladeRunner said:
Has anyone tried using any of the Lumbeat apps like Soft Drummer together with Loopy Pro?
I am hoping it will work as well as the Lumbeat integration that Quantiloop supports.

The initial Loopy Pro release does not support audio from IAA apps.

Gdub · December 2021

@BladeRunner
I have recorded reggae drummer into loopy pro via AUM, didn’t have any problems
Didn’t try anything technical, but recorded lots of loops at different lengths etc
Was all i needed

espiegel123 · December 2021

@espiegel123 said:

@BladeRunner said:
Has anyone tried using any of the Lumbeat apps like Soft Drummer together with Loopy Pro?
I am hoping it will work as well as the Lumbeat integration that Quantiloop supports.

The initial Loopy Pro release does not support audio from IAA apps.

I should have phrased that better standalone Loopy Pro doesn't do IAA (yet) but as an AU in Audiobus or AUM, you can send anything at it that the host can see.

cyberheater · December 2021

Is it going to get released this week?

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cyberheater · December 2021

Awesome news.

pantsofdeath · December 2021

Hope it is soon,I am about to disappear into a world of no mobile reception or wifi for the next week…

espiegel123 · December 2021

Some crazy dark ambient explorations of two short recordings of cat sounds...showing on the fky dragging of effects between busses

Jumpercollins · December 2021

@pantsofdeath said:
Hope it is soon,I am about to disappear into a world of no mobile reception or wifi for the next week…

I’ve just come out of one of these voids on a ship feel u pain!

MAtrixplan · December 2021

any info about the price?

zilld2017 · December 2021

Any general comments about using LP in apematrix? Forgive the overly-broad query, just looking for interesting discoveries, workflows, possibly limitations, the like. Thanks.

cyberheater · December 2021

@MAtrixplan said:
any info about the price?

It’ll be $30US/€30/£26/$47AU

Michael_R_Grant · December 2021

@MAtrixplan said:
any info about the price?

Happy to be corrected on this, but I believe it's $29.99/£28.99/AU$46.99 (not sure about Euros) to unlock the app and get all feature updates free for a year.

After that year it's $19.99/£18.99/(not sure of other currencies) as an IAP to get all feature updates for another year.

If you don't buy the IAP after Year 1, then you will continue to get all bug fixes and still have access to the features introduced throughout the first year, but you won't get any of the new stuff in Year 2.

The present plan is for this model to carry on, so every year there's an IAP of $19.99/£18.99 to get you a further year's worth of new features. In terms of the financial model, it's very similar to how Bitwig works on PC/Mac and ensures that Michael can carry on earning from the app.

There is a 7 day free trial when you first open the app, but after that ends it's basically functionless so you will have to pony up the initial cost to keep using it... and believe me, you'll want to! The words 'game changer' are said quite often on here, but this REALLY is. It joins Drambo, AUM and Audiobus as an absolutely essential app for iOS music makers. An instant heavyweight!