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I’ve liked Dialekt enough to purchase the app for iPad as well as iPhone. Although I purchased Dialekt “as is”, I do hope we get some more color when it comes to filtertypes and saturation. A balance/panning control would be welcome as well.
Amazing idea generator! ….. but ….. @SugarBytesRico what does the chord progression actually do to notes in a pattern.
That would be the bundle upgrade I suppose. The upgrade comes at different prices depending how many and which products you already own.
Dialekt 1.0.2 is crossing the finish line atm by the way.
You find the pan control on the synth page. It resides there because it can be set per step.
Not sure what you mean. The chord progression will be written into the chord track, and it will decide which notes all other tracks play.
The chord progression will do the same, once you hit the happy randomize button.
To make it more clear, the chord progression is a randomizer feature.
While the randomizer is writing, it takes the current chord and uses it to decide what pitches to write into the other tracks.
Since the chord progression is written by the randomizer, it will then be sent out by midi.
You can use the randomizer to write exactly what you need. Set it to Manual, dial in your chord progression, hit randomize.
@soundtemple In the mellow style you tend to get sustained chords, that follow the progression. So if you generate a part with nothing but mellow chords, and export or record the midi, you've got something to work with.
@tyslothrop1 Thanks
@SugarBytesRico ok ... thanks. I guess the key being set the chord progression, then randomise. I was looking at it from the other direction ie making manual changes in the CRD track and wondering how I connected changes with the chord progression.
We just released Dialekt 1.0.2, with all known bugs fixed and a bigger keyboard on iphone.
Have fun with it!
Ace, thank you!
The bigger keyboard is a great improvement on the phone.
Dialekt 1.0.3 has just been released.
The iPad and Desktop versions are now able to send a certain track through the FX device and Compressor, if multiple audio outs are used.
A midi export bug was fixed and some smaller things improved.
That's great, thank you. As said before, this first half of -25 has just been crazy with all new stuff for iOS, even an extraordinary app like this has got, sort of, tucked away in the pile. Good you keep us updated.
I’m not sure why this discussion hasn’t been more active. I never cared much for groovebox-style apps but I’ve been using Dialekt every day since it came out. It’s wonderful. Always musical, always inspiring, and rock solid, even inside the sometimes finicky Logic Pro. I’d describe Dialekt’s character as proudly synthetic yet somehow organic and warm with a feel that’s more human than machine.
Having logged a decent amount of time in the app, I’ll share a few observations:
This is a deep app with multiple pages and a zillion parameters to be modified. That means the learning curve is pretty steep at first. Rather than allowing myself to becoming overwhelmed, I bit off a little at a time, following along with @Gavinski as he peeled back every layer in his invaluable tutorial. As I began to grasp the way it’s organized, the fun factor expanded rapidly.
You can get useful results right away thanks to a wide assortment of preset songs and powerful randomization capabilities which can be selectively applied at any level, from microscopic to macro.
Some earlier comments suggested that the fixed eight instrument (engine) structure is too limiting. That hasn’t been my experience at all. There are so many configurable options within each engine, and so many ways to apply mutes and effects, that the possibilities seem endless.
I may never create a whole song in Dialekt. That’s okay. For me, Dialekt’s super power is as a plugin. I run it inside of Logic, thinking of it not as groovebox so much as one giant instrument. Need a drum part? Maybe a chord progression? A badass bass line? Dialekt is a great place to start. Build your own or modify a preset. Use Dialekt’s midi out to drive other instruments or blend Dialekt into a mix for unique, sometimes quirky embellishments.
I try to practice guitar every morning and another specific application has been to use Dialekt as a backing track for working on scales, chord changes, and soloing. Find a groove - funk, reggae, whatever - and play along. It’s way more interesting than a metronome.
I look forward to hearing how others are using Dialekt. Thanks again to @Gavinski for turning me onto to this and many other apps and to @SugarBytesRico and team for your remarkable creation.
Thank you for that review. Anyone care to share your experience with Dialekt on iPhone?
Sure. They did a really nice job of designing the iPhone UI. It’s a little different than the iPad version but just as easy to navigate, imo.
Pleasure! Yes, there was definitely a learning curve for me initially, but I hope that my video makes it easy for anyone to learn this! It's a well designed app, once you get used to the way things work, it sticks with you. The key initially, I think, is just getting used to a few things like the pin, the eye, and the pattern / part / song / live modes. The live mode especially is really fun, and a very nice way to get automated stuff going in an app like AUM that lacks automation.
As you say, it doesn't have to be thought of as a song-making tool. You can just generate single synth or drum lines with it and combine those with other things, whether performing live or laying down tracks in a DAW. Add in a bit of automation and you've got something far more interesting to play with than most loops.
Less chat here, I think might be mainly for 2 reasons. 1. So, so many excellent new apps have dropped this past month and a half. 2. I do think that the unfortunate lag of a few weeks between the desktop and mobile versions of Dialekt dropping deflated the hype a bit. 3. Perhaps my vid clarified things enough that people didn't need to ask many questions. It was pretty thorough, clocking in at 2 hours haha
I really like it on my iPhone 12. It’s easy to just pick up and put down when I’m not at home. The various options for randomization make it really easy to get happy accidents. You can get nifty results by using different genres from the randomizer on different instruments. Also the controls aren’t tiny, it’s easy to see what’s on screen without squinting.
Is there a way to make the CRD synth play the chord progression straight (no inversions)?
Or make the BASS synth automatically play the low note in a chord?
Boring, I know. I’m just looking for ways to populate the sequencer with vanilla triads and bass notes, then tweak from there.
100% Most of the apps I have get used in this way at some point. Some only get used for that. Like you said, who needs a metronome.
This , or Grooverider 2?
The chord randomizer uses the chords from the factory chord table, so there might be a 6, 7 or 9 in there.
The bass usually plays (is programmed to play) the chord root, when the chord is triggered, and then starts dreaming from there, but is forced back to the root regularly. I think the pop genre is most vanilla here.
How do you lock Dialekt into a key and scale? So when you randomize it doesn’t go out of it?
By using the randomiser lock. See my (timestamped) vid to find that, if necessary, or it's in the manual
Thanks Gav. I’m just starting to play with the app and was thinking it was on the Song page. Cheers for the pointer.
Dialekt got a small update today fixing overlapping midi notes missing on export. Minor bug fixes.
Is it possible to export audio tracks individually from Dialekt? Currently, I have to use Solo or Mute to export each track separately. Or am I missing something?
Something in the plugin mode, it doesn't want to work. When changing the randomization mode, it just crashes. In Aum, GR2, and Cubasis, it just freezes.
I figured out what the problem was. it turns out there are two different versions for iphone and ipad. And each one costs money. I just got out of the habit of paying for every app on every device. Let's assume that the problem has been fixed.
I mucked about with the demo of this briefly when it launched, but decided to buy the full unlock in the cyber monday sale
i am very pleased that I did, this is a very fun way to make music. I don't really mess with the randomiser feature, but even without it this is instantaneous, low-friction composition that lets you focus on the fun stuff and iterate on ideas very quickly.
There's a few things here I'd ideally like made deeper or more featured, but really the limits on this things are overall very well thought through and achieve their goal of encouraging instantaneous creativity
Using DIalekt again and when I make a simple four on the floor kick pattern (or ANY pattern for that matter) there is a synth/bass note that plays as well on the same notes I've input which I cannot figure out how to get rid of. It must be some kind of metronome (but it doens't play all the time only when notes you've imputed play ). I really need to turn it off etc but I have no idea what's making it and it doesn't even appear on the mixer etc. Any clues?
EDIT:
FWIW (not much) I deleted the app and still had the same problem after reinstalling. I rebooted and now the mysterious extra has fucked off. For now
Who knows.....
maybe you had another music app opened that was receiving MIDI notes from the kick? I've had weird shit like this happen before too - truly maddening!
I never got to the bottom of it, but must presume you're right. I DO love the damn thing however
Despite some of its, erm, idiosyncrasies....