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Ah, so "NATO made him do it"...?
Well he didn’t just awaken with a disease ridden crazed mind thinking ‘I’ll invade Ukraine today’
But western propaganda would have you believe this nonsense.
No the hostility and war has context.
Here is a delve into that context and reasoning.
For that question to be seriously contemplated and reasoned we must look into events preceding the invasion.
An article from The Guardian 2004.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/26/ukraine.usa
And that makes it ok for Russia to invade another country?
No but it explains why, should the USA and UK have been interfering in Ukraine?
Perhaps you should look at what Oleksiy Arestovych has to say about the matter, he was spokesperson for the Zelensky administration.
Meanwhile our absurd leaders continue their nonsense.
Le shove.
Of course Russia was initially blamed for it by creating a deepfake, but then again an outbreak of bed bugs prior to the olympics was blamed on Russia too.
Maybe Russia are to blame for the weather, cue crazy Rachel Maddow.
I just blame them for killing innocent Ukranians.
I have condemned all those who have killed innocent people on both sides, that’s why I have called for a reasonable peace settlement. Did you check out Arestovych btw, today he tells about Ukrainian murder and imprisonment of Zelensky’s political opponents. He tells of how the Nationalists control power and Zelensky’s betrayal of bringing peace and plurality to Ukrainian society.
@knewspeak - There's a huge moral difference between unintentional collateral death of civilians and intentionally targeting them. I already know you'll call that fake news, find Ukrainians equally as culpable, especially the Nazis, etc. etc. etc.. We'll both trot out examples that the other dismisses as biased and inaccurate. I'll remain convinced you're deluded. You'll remain convinced you are tapped into the only true channels of truth ... same old cycle. An utter waste of time, but it's so hard to just let it all pass. I've done pretty good though for quite some time. 😉
@wim ... Don't hit post. Don't hit post. Don't hit ... ahh screw it. 🤦🏻♂️
I see you raise morality, as do I along with ethics and reality, that requires looking at any given situation from a variety of perspectives so that we gain a better understanding of that reality.
In practically all wars atrocities have been committed often by both sides, I do not believe that this war is any different.
I have in the past provided much evidence that questions the war propaganda of the MSM, often from the same MSM’s own evidence. They actually did unbiased reporting prior to the war and some subsequently due to that fact they couldn’t hide it any longer, reality does crash in, so they do have to try to reshape the ‘narrative’.
Yes I could post evidence which points towards atrocities committed by nationalists, but let’s return to the fact that Zelensky was elected above all with a mandate of peace, which should inform you that there wasn’t peace, that was a mandate of most of Ukraine at that time, but it wasn’t for about twenty percent of the population, don’t take my word search for the evidence of Arestovych.
Since the ending of the Soviet Union, Russia has been demonised and lied to increasingly, the chance of peace and mutual respect thrown away, multiple promises broken.
Does this make Russia blameless, no.
Does this make the West blameless, no.
If I muddy the waters, maybe that’s because the waters were already muddied.
But mostly I speak of the West’s part in this tragedy, being a citizen of this corrupt hypocritical system.
Hopefully you’ll open your eyes to its morally bankrupt ways.
I shouldn’t have to point to the evidence of this corruption, it’s obvious to all.
LOL.
That was my New Year's Resolution... don't reply to this stuff... but I didn't stick with it. Need more will power.
I'm outta here now. Sick of listening to the endless fence sitting.
You cry foul, it wasn’t me. Fence sitting blah, blah, blah….stop it with your projection
Now remind me who created this thread?
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/64122/president-musk-hows-it-going-usa#latest
Morality, ethics, perspective and critical thought and the path of least resistance.
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Did you check out the recent Ukrainian strikes in Russia, I think one targeted civilians.
An expose about Zelensky’s Ukraine.
Boris Johnson states Ukraine is a proxy war on behalf of the West,
Gen. Kellogg states Ukraine is a proxy war on behalf of the West,
Marco Rubio states Ukraine is a proxy war on behalf of the West,
Kemi Badenoch states Ukraine and Isreal are both proxy wars on behalf of the West,
Me I stated this quite some time ago before it was fashionable, at the time I was called a ‘Putin Puppet’ and other derogatory terms.
Ukraine appears to be playing games over the repatriation of soldiers bodies being returned to loved ones for burial.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/07/europe/russia-ukraine-prisoner-swap-bodies-delay-intl
Gee, I wonder why...?
Because people lack the ability to think critically, like yourself and you know what that makes you.
Er...it makes me not a ‘Putin Puppet’.
Ad hominem attacks usually are resorted to in absence of factual information.
The information I posted quoting other people are factual statements, as I said exactly the same about two years ago that proves what I said was more widely accepted by people in power at that time and also now.
From Le Monde, Brazil’s President Lula, said USA President Biden told him ‘he wanted Russia destroyed’
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/06/03/lula-we-need-global-governance-now-more-than-ever_6741954_4.html
Zelensky’s nuclear obsession,
With the latest strike on Russia’s strategic bombers, Zelensky seems driven to cause a nuclear incident.
https://www.intellinews.com/start-missile-treaty-exposed-russia-s-nuclear-bombers-to-ukrainian-drone-attack-384158/
Over the passage of the war he has raised several alarms about ZNPP, some very strange indeed.
He has lamented not having nuclear arms.
Took over territory in Kursk the had previously housed Russian nuclear weapons.
Headed in the direction of Kursk NPP during the Kursk offensive.
Is in talks with the West in acquiring or creating nuclear weapons.
Damaged Russia’s over the horizon surveillance system, used to warn of possible nuclear threat.
I provide a few articles in reference. But there’s quite a volume available.
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220816-zelensky-warns-catastrophe-at-nuclear-plant-would-threaten-whole-of-europe
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/06/22/ukraine-zelensky-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant/
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-volodymyr-zelenskyy-warns-serious-threat-remains-at-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant-12913025
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4822979-zelensky-warns-of-fire-at-russian-occupied-nuclear-power-plant-radiation-levels-within-norm/
https://nypost.com/2024/09/25/world-news/ukraines-zelensky-warns-un-of-looming-nuclear-disaster/
All the while the West (via USA satellites surveillance) provide Ukraine with detailed technical Intel information about Russia.
Say NO to NaZi’s with nukes. Say No2Nato.
Trump fixed the proxy war issue by just climbing up Putin’s ass.
Ukraine then stood alone and the EU decided to fill in the material support.
No sovereign nation deserves to be forcibly co-opted into a re-imagined Soviet block. Those old satellite states tend to say “been there, done that… we won’t go back to that defaulted corrupt system of oligarchy… Trump admires the central control and dominance through power moves and control of speech.
High on rhetoric, low on facts.
I think it is more than that. I think the Russians have some dirt on Trump - probably from 1980s or 90s. Kiddie molesting, tax cheating, drug use, male escorts or whatever.
That is the reason Trump would suck up to Putin. Why would he suck up to a country that has a crumbling economy the size of California's, has a broken military, and can't even win a war against little Ukraine in over 3 years?
Normally Trump would call someone who starts a "military exercise" that is expected to take a few weeks but takes over 3 years "a loser". Normally he would delight in someone else's failure. I can imagine him proclaiming "If I was running that war we would have beat Ukraine in a week".
We may not find out what the dirt is while Trump is still alive.
Possible via Mossad, a trove of Naval Intel was passed onto the Russia, who knows what else, but yet Trump still hasn’t stopped funding for Ukraine, remember in his first term he funded them too.
Ukraine had a fairly large army though is diminishing rapidly hence the average age is well into the forties.
How many hundreds of billions has the west supplied along with arms, Intel and so on.
What part about proxy don’t you understand?
Consult the IMF regarding the Russian economy. Also ask Germany and the EU how there economies are going.
That was Gen. Miley’s statement often quoted by others in the West and attributed to Putin.
Maybe you’ll recover from your delusional state while your still alive.
For you to think about.
The National Security Magazine.
https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/russia-has-won-the-ukraine-war-and-defeated-nato/
Stop typing YouTube links for a moment and take a look at your hands.
See those specks?
That's Ukranian blood.
I don't know how much the Russians are paying you but whatever it is, it is not enough.
I’ve called for a peaceful settlement not for war, that’s yourself and others.
Did you read the article, they’re not a pro-Russian source, but that article is waking to reality.
I’m a heretic for questioning the orthodoxy, a traitor for wrongthink.
This pervading echo chamber narrative driven force feedback loop symbolises the decay of self examination within western society. This system has become ever more declining and authoritarian in reaction to those who question its strategy and motives. Self selecting those who conform to its childish simplistic good vs evil narrative, while ruthlessly expelling those who dare to question it.
Even in the field of science Sabine Hossenfelder has encountered this very same suppression for questioning the orthodoxy.
It is of little wonder why the number of stem academics in China vastly outnumber those from the USA, but just keep telling yourself ‘our system is best’ or ‘we have freedom’, these slogans are becoming ever more absurd and hollow, hence the need to create a system of control over the awakening masses, who realise in their despair and unhappiness this system isn’t working on their behalf but only for the privileged few.