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Hey everyone!
Thx for your feedback, great you like it! 🙂
And @MJKLZ and @ermwhish, if you keep experience these issues, could you record a little video and pm it to @reinerspass ? That would be great.
Thx a lot for your support everybody! ✌️
Had this happen to me as well. I just “refresh” the program by reloading it in AUM. It happens also in an unrelated product. Reloading Mozaic, which has a script loaded, fixes the non playing.
You might want to see if the problem lies in host communication, perhaps when the host clock and timeline have started or not. Just my uneducated guess.
I also appear to be having similar issues in GR2, transport not triggering OCTACHRON?
Using Octachron as strictly a midi cc controller/sequencer with probability and step repeats, etc. on Shoom is magnificent! With probability settings you can get nicely evolving compositions going with little effort. Easy to set up too.
You don’t even have to set up more than a few controls and a couple sequences to get nice results.
Brilliant!
That’s a great idea @skiphunt
ok, thx! we will also check this
and @skiphunt
yes cool, great idea! 🙂
Much appreciated, thanks!
Dear Beta Testers!
We fixed the main transportation issues you reported in AUM, Logic and Grooverider 2 in Beta V 2.1.1
Do you still have any issues?
Thx a lot for your support and best greetings from Munich 🙂
Tas
The update is great but I have a problem… sometimes when I’m using Octachron as an AU (in Drambo) my sequences aren’t saved. I can’t reproduce it, it happens randomly that I’ll open a project and Octachron is completely reset. I haven’t had this happen with any other apps. Not sure what’s going on but unfortunately it means I can’t rely on it. Has anyone else encountered this?
Can this app do polymeters, polyrhythms, and metric modulation, changing time sigs every bar or two and the like?
Heyhey! Thx for asking. Yes, it has got track length and clock divider per pattern and track. Please also see the chapters Track Settings, Modulation and Song Mode in the manual on that 🙂
https://www.octachron.de/manual.html
Oh, that's encouraging; I might have to try this app.
So for polyrhythmic elements, taking the note values below as an example
The manual says under Modulation:
"Track Length allows you to change the length of each track independently from the others and create polyrhythms")
...so just set Track Length under Modulation to 4, 6, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 28, 32 to achieve the note divisions above?
Apologies if I'm asking something obvious.
I achieve the above in Patterning in the following manner (a little more involved but not horrible)
Patterning example in 4/4:
1/4 notes: STANDARD MODE, Duration=1/4 note, Steps=four
1/4 triplets: STANDARD MODE, Duration=1/4 triplet, Steps=six
1/8 notes: STANDARD MODE, Duration=1/8 note, Steps=eight
1/8 triplets: STANDARD MODE, Duration=1/8triplet, Steps=twelve
1/16 notes: STANDARD MODE, Duration=1/16, Steps sixteen
Quintuplets: DIVIDE MODE = 20 steps (5 X 4 ...multiplying the 5 note quintuplet times 4 -because in 4/4 time there are four quintuplets per measure)
1/16 Sextuplets: DIVIDE MODE = 24 steps (6 x 4)
Septuplets, DIVIDE MODE = 28 STEPS (7 X 4)
1/32 STANDARD MODE Duration=1/32 note, Steps=32
(Will try to figure metric modulation and polymeter next, just trying to understand one at a time... I'm a little fuzzy on translating clock multiplier/divider values to certain standard musical values)
Hello, I don't find my presets (saved from a standalone Octachron session), when I load Octachron in AUM as an Auv3 midi sequencer. How can I find it ? Thanks!
Heyhey, yes, Rick Beato is cool 😎
I think some of these measures are possible, but I think not all of them.
But Track length is not for that. It is for shortening single tracks in comparison to others, so that hits appear at different times compared to the others each loop. This is what we call polyrhythm.
And as clock divider per pattern and track we offer 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 (triplets), 1 (default), 3/2 and 2.
Hope that helps
Best greetings from Munich 🙂 Tas
Hey, yes. We would like to have that synced as well, of course. But unfortunately, it is not so easy, because it is technically something totally different in those two environments.
We have it on our list but it is not possible at the moment. We are very sorry for the inconvenience. 🫤
Is is possible to set the track color manually in Octachron?
Can you import a midi file in this yet? Can’t see it in the manual.
No
Hey @TasTax
Octachron has been behaving pretty well for me lately. But I have encountered a bug using it inside Loopy Pro. Check this out:
In Drambo it appears how it should:
"Track length is not for that, it is for shortening single tracks in comparison to others so that hits appear at different times. This is what we call polyrhythm."
Actually I think the "hits occurring at different times" (the polyrhythms in question) are written via these note values and are two ways of saying the same thing, no?
-i.e. polyrhythms with Track Length under Modulation set to 4, 6, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 28, 32 should relate specifically to the note values depicted in the photo (from the video below) as Beato explains here (re. Gary Chaffee sticking patterns)?
TBH I think if I am wrong and Octachron can't achieve this -e.g. basic Gary Chaffee sticking patterns- it sadly won't work for me at all, BUT can you look at this as Beato describes it, because I'm thinking Octachron actually can?
@UrbanNinja
Just from looking at the screenshot… there is a big difference between note division and shortening beats/bar. With Octachron you can have your 16 beat track run for 15 beats instead, so a beat gets dropped every time it plays. But those beats are still landing in the same time division. It’s not true polyrhythm as I understand it. If you divide your 16 beats equally by 3, those beats are going to hit on a different rhythm than your 4/4 rhythm.
That's not the alternate setting in the Manual we are discussing, though, per the original question of whether Octachron could do polyrhythms (TasTax answered yes).
The Manual says under Modulation:
"Track Length allows you to change the length of each track independently from the others and create polyrhythms")
And as TasTax also said "Track length... is for shortening single tracks in comparison to others, so that hits appear at different times compared to the others each loop. This is what we call polyrhythm."
Our discussion digressed into achieving the specified note values which are building blocks of certain polyrhythms (listed only by way of example as others seem obviously possible); more concretely what I was hoping Tas could help flesh out is what values playing against one another polyrhythmically are or are not possible in Octachron and precisely how to set it up to the extent that this is possible.
I was able to do all the basic Gary Chaffee sticking pattern stuff in both Patterning (after consulting with the dev, in the manner explained above) and obviously Beat Scholar (in that case in a simple manner right out of the box so to speak). This sort of thing isn't academic for me but very important to my own compositional style and also, of course, to a whole s&*tload of contemporary music (and a lot of older stuff too). Also hoping to flesh out metric modulation and polymeter later on.
I think Octachron can do at least some of this stuff for sure; I'm just a little fuzzy about exactly what (and what not) and about translating clock times into my more "comfortable" forms of music speak and so on.
Hey everyone, this is so cool. I love this nerdy discussion around rhythms and what can OCTACHRON do! The idea behind the clock dividers per track was to achieve this type of rhythms!
I made a short video on how to achieve this. Please excuse the bad audio, hope its still helpful!
Cheers
Markus
@TasTax - The issues with GR2 transport are all fixed now, thanks so much!!
Hello, I couldn't find the answer in the whole thread:
How can I save a preset in Standalone Octachron, and find it when I load it in an Auv3 Octachron (inside a host?)
@reinerspass Ive just noticed that adding tracks (beyond the 8 default) wrongly assigns them to channel 0, hence producing no sound. When inspecting the track properties and tapping the + button of the channel, it also jumps from 0 to 2.
Also happening with the Generate scale function.
It was previously working and assigning channel 1 to new tracks by default.
Hey @5alien currently its now possible to sync presets between AUv3 and the standalone app.It's on our list, but its not straight forward. Sorry about that.
@jsmonzani Yeah, thanks for reporting, I've also noticed that, will fix asap.
Did octa lose the ‘swing grid’ setting?
Thank you for your answer, duly noted. I'll search for a way to export/import my presets.