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How many hours are you working on the forum to follow and moderate. 27,000 comments might be the record.
Can you run a report for the top 10?
Fortunately, the OP had already hacked up the nut. Guitar set-ups for tuning are a bitch.
Would it be helpful to consider using a different string gauge for the low E? I have no idea if thinner or thicker might influence pitch. I’ve also heard that fret height can influence pitch as you leave the open string tuned at the nut. Checking pitch at the 12th (octave) fret usually gets them pretty close. Buzz Feiten has hardware that is supposed to improve tuning.
The same compromises that are required to make a piano work in 12 keys also apply to guitars. Just the fact that a note as the root would be off when it’s the 3rd of a chord. Off at levels Jacob Collier can hear with perfect pitch and tell you how many cents it’s off and which way. Freak but he’s a mix of nature and nurture by being given every instrument he asked for as a child. His mastery of harmony scares Herbie Hancock. My wife won’t let me listen to his videos because his voice drives her crazy… he was unfortunately trained in a boys choir and has that
tone down perfectly which is ideal for constructing choirs where you can hear the overtones align. His multi-tracked work is astonishing for the harmony and pitch alignment.
I know that I would just start auditioning basses and get one that has a hardware toggle for the Drop D. Money is no object when it comes to perfect pitch (which can really only be accomplished on instruments without fixed settings. Aha! go fretless and tune by your finger placement… easier to say and probably a good way to spread pitch problems across the neck.
Are you kidding dude…thanks for all the wonderful comments on ALL topics, not just this particular post and thread . Wim, you’re not only a respected colleague, and computer wizard, but you’re also a renaissance man so it would seem, and your “wasted” posts are still informative even if irrelevant this [one]* time.(.if anything it just shows you’re not infallible 😆 - for a second I was wondering if there’s anything you didnt know , - but nope - you know it all! 🙃 hehe
But joking aside, you’re a fount of knowledge , a true resource and wealth of information, and you really give a lot of your time to helping so thanks for chiming in
@McD do you have a fretless guitar or have you played one? What do you think ?
You seem to know quite abit , I would be interested to know what you play, what brand are fave?
Thanks for the kind words @yellow_eyez .
Brain farts are such funny things though, aren't they? 😂
I did guess so and you were the first to answer and it's a good one too, even with the nut/saddle mix up. That started Ailerom to expand further telling me about the direction if flat or sharp. All very good so thank you. Very helpful indeed.
Thanks to all chiming in no the Nembrini tuner (@Schmotown @ecou @Ailerom) I definitely hit the string too hard and very inconsistent, as are my playing i.e I like to alter hard and soft so my thinking has been it should be in tune however I hit it. Happy to learn from you all. I sometimes use my iPhone to tune and then I use this KeyTuner if it's good or not, I'm not right to judge but I like it, if it were AuV3 I would use it before Nembrinis.
Your tuner post got me thinking about one of these for working on guitars. Clip-ons are ok but a decent tuner is way more necessary for set ups.
I have the mini version of this on my modest board. Love it. Strobe, signal muting, and legible in even the worst light… https://www.turbo-tuner.com/
Looks pretty good. Any reviews on the accuracy? I'll look some up myself. Just wondering if you bought it based off reviews. Can it be battery powered?
@Schmotown hey man, how is the new go device? (Btw does the interface do simultaneous onboard mic + DI/48v in “multitrack mode”?) - hope you’re having fun
@Ailerom I’m pretty sure I learned about the Turbo Tuner on “That Pedal Show”. No battery in the mini but the bigger one can be battery powered.
@yellow_eyez The little interface hasn’t arrived yet. I’ll let you know when I’ve had some time to play with it.
It's not about how hard or soft you pick. When you hit a string you get a attack then that goes away and the string start to stabilize it's vibration speed and give a constant note that the tuner can capture and that you hear. That why we hit the string lightly to minimize that sharp attack so the tuner can do its job.
BYOD is free and as a tuner and is auv3. But I have never tried it.
This is a string vibration over time, you can see that after the initial attack the vibration stabilize and slowly get quieter.
BYOD is an amazing free distortion pedal app but I can’t find a tuner in its listing of pedal types.
For free tuners, I found Pano Tune, T1 Tuner and Tune Again (with ADs) but none is an AUv3 or even an IAA app so
I think the Nembrini is a solid choice for use within DAWs and standalone.
It's in Utility if I remember correctly. When I say I never tried it I am talking about the tuner in BYOD. I use BYOD frequently.
I’m scanning the User Manual for keywords “Tuner” and “Utility’ with no hits… is there another Chow App with a tuner?
Open the app not the manual 😉
The note also gets flatter following the initial attack, according to every tuner I've used.
Thanks for pushing back and making me find it finally:
For readability I like the NA and AudioKit tuners. Here are all three running in AUM as AUv3’s:
The Audio kit one is not a tuner.
I created some of what I feel are the most epic guitar soundfonts I have found for FontStack/GrooveRider users. I've been having a lot of fun with them and the nembrini plugins.
I use Riffler as a midi generator to FontStack or just layer FontStack on top of Riffler when using as an audio unit.
Also Riffler with Kaleidoscope's strum is pretty nice sounding with font stacks guitar sounds. Will post them here.
assorted top tier guitar soundfonts (zip):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NOfoLrftWBcoVwt14NFCbp907JghBQJ0/view?usp=sharing
complete soundfont directory:
Link in next reply
Oh. Is it their take on autotune? That would be crazy… the guitar is out of tune and it tweaks the pitches to
make you think its in tune. Then someone counts off a tune and you’re surprised at the sound coming out of the amp.
Sorry. My bad.
Wow! That's quite a collection. Thanks for that.
It's asking me to request permissions for that one.
@wim. Sorry boss. Should be fixed.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16mytpe6w8dDGC5ex87o7KwkCNyQuD3rl?usp=sharing
For you who mentioned Peterson iStroboSoft as the best tuner there is another (much) cheaper option, and it also has strobe and other stuff. I've tried it just a short while and I really like how stable the results are, not jumping around like a rabid dog. It's not AuV3 or anything but still, it has a lot of presets and have gotten some nice reviews as well: AiryWave Tuner
Nice one. 👍🏼
The Calibrate to Live Sound feature sounds super useful.
I dubbed Peterson “the best” but I’ll definitely try Airyware. Thanks @Pxlhg. Maybe the devs would consider adding AuV3.
How often does an active guitarist re-fret a guitar? I have never done that but I never keep my guitars for that long either, this one is maybe 5-6 years now (bought used). Since I don't play any whole songs but instead just noodling the frets on high E and B strings, frets 10 - 15 are pretty worn down.
I would never re-fret a guitar unless the wear is causing string buzz. The potential downsides outweigh the upsides if it's not noticeably affecting tone.
Ha! Didn't think of doing a pro and con search but you're right, there are some risks. The cost if hiring a professional is way more than I payed so buying another guitar would be better if it comes to that. Think I'll just put this out of my head for now, appreciate your input, thanks!
Keep in mind that I throw out advice as though I know what I'm talking about. That isn't the case. I just say things based on what I personally would do. You should never take anything I say about guitars at its face value.
(However in this case, I've made a few guitars and have done the frets for them myself, so I have some base of experience about what can go wrong. I mean, you're basically attempting to rip something with barbs in it out of grained wood. There's potential to split grains from the wood, necessitating repair. Even if that doesn't happen, the fret slot is damaged to some extent no matter what you do. A skilled luthier is definitely in order.)
Does anybody here have a lipstick pickup guitar? I’ve wanted to get one for the longest time and would like to hear thoughts.
I’m a huge Danelectro fan - my Honeytone is one of my favorite pieces of gear. I’ve demoed a few lipstick guitars here and there but not a Danelectro specifically.
For reference, I typically prefer Humbuckers. I have an Ibanez semi hollow with humbuckers and used to have a Les Paul that I generally preferred to single coil guitars. But I’m looking for something thinner than humbuckers but a little grittier than singles.
https://danelectro.com/guitars/67-guitar/
The ‘67 looks pretty straightforward - that’s what I’m looking for.
https://danelectro.com/guitars/59x12/
Is the 59x12 the best of both worlds? Dual lipsticks near the bridge and a humbucker near the neck looks cool but maybe muddy.
Anyone have a Danelectro or other lipstick pickup guitars I should keep an eye out for on FB Marketplace, second hand shops, etc?