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XP4N: I made a (photography) thing!

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  • wow! Very Jodorowsky

  • @Edward_Alexander said:
    Wow! Haven’t caught up on this thread for a while. Amazing photography by you guys!

    @skiphunt that one pic with the saxophone guy on the street reminds me of those pharmaceutical commercials you see on TV;

    “Ask your doctor about Skyrizie - side effects may be fatal. Stop using if death occurs”

    Street shot in downtown Monterrey, Mexico flea market. Not sure if this is supposed to be an insult. If so, I can't be bothered with it right now, but thanks for looking.

  • @skiphunt said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    Wow! Haven’t caught up on this thread for a while. Amazing photography by you guys!

    @skiphunt that one pic with the saxophone guy on the street reminds me of those pharmaceutical commercials you see on TV;

    “Ask your doctor about Skyrizie - side effects may be fatal. Stop using if death occurs”

    Street shot in downtown Monterrey, Mexico flea market. Not sure if this is supposed to be an insult. If so, I can't be bothered with it right now, but thanks for looking.

    Insult? lol no way dude, your pics are amazing! All of them!

    Guess I was trying to be funny. Maybe it was just me

  • @Edward_Alexander said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    Wow! Haven’t caught up on this thread for a while. Amazing photography by you guys!

    @skiphunt that one pic with the saxophone guy on the street reminds me of those pharmaceutical commercials you see on TV;

    “Ask your doctor about Skyrizie - side effects may be fatal. Stop using if death occurs”

    Street shot in downtown Monterrey, Mexico flea market. Not sure if this is supposed to be an insult. If so, I can't be bothered with it right now, but thanks for looking.

    Insult? lol no way dude, your pics are amazing! All of them!

    Guess I was trying to be funny. Maybe it was just me

    Ok, thx 🙏 it didn’t seem like an insult, but wasn’t sure. I decided to upgrade to a new iPhone so I was uploading the last of my XP4N images before I wipe my previous iPhone to sell or trade in. Thought maybe all the images I’ve uploaded lately annoyed

  • The flow of time...

  • edited January 2

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    @Tarekith dang man, I looked up your camera, and wow, that’s one pricey piece of kit. 😱 you must be a professional photographer.

    No, just passionate about it as a hobby. I was able to sell a good bit of music gear for funds and coincide the purchase with my 50th birthday, no way I could have done it otherwise.

  • @Tarekith said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    @Tarekith dang man, I looked up your camera, and wow, that’s one pricey piece of kit. 😱 you must be a professional photographer.

    No, just passionate about it as a hobby. I was able to sell a good bit of music gear for funds and coincide the purchase with my 50th birthday, no way I could have done it otherwise.

    Oh, well happy birthday to you! Love the photography!🤙

  • @Tarekith said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    @Tarekith dang man, I looked up your camera, and wow, that’s one pricey piece of kit. 😱 you must be a professional photographer.

    No, just passionate about it as a hobby. I was able to sell a good bit of music gear for funds and coincide the purchase with my 50th birthday, no way I could have done it otherwise.

    Which gear are we talking about? Finally upgraded to the 17 pro max. Hoping XP4N gets updated to take advantage of it. Playing with project Indigo some, but like the native app with 48 raw a little better so far. Also got some m43 gear to play with cheap Chinese m43 mount lenses - did you go Leica or hasselblad

  • edited January 3

    Leica Q3 43.

    I like the raw files in the camera app more than Indigo too. Neat tech, but nothing that would make me switch yet.

  • @Edward_Alexander said:
    Oh, well happy birthday to you! Love the photography!🤙

    Thanks!

  • @Tarekith said:
    Leica Q3 43.

    I like the raw files in the camera app more than Indigo too. Neat tech, but nothing that would make me switch yet.

    I was hesitant about the 17 pro max upgrade… but after looking at the raw 48mp files and expanded lens range as well as good macro… I’m seriously wondering if I even need the m43 I bought last year. I’ll keep it for fun playing with cheap interesting lenses and sync flash photography. As far as I know, the iPhone still can’t do sync flash strobe work, unless there’s a method I’m unaware of.

    Nice in the Leica - too rich 🤑 for my blood 🩸 ;)

  • The main camera in the 17 Pro is really nice, I pretty much never bring an actual camera with me hiking and backpacking anymore. And nature and landscape stuff is my favorite kind of photography, the 17 pro just does so much for something I’m carrying anyway.

  • @brambos Would you consider an option to launch XP4N from the Camera Control Button?

    To enable your third-party app to launch when the Camera Control button (the capacitive hardware button on iPhone 16 series and later models) is pressed, your app must support the system's locked camera capture experience. This is required for the app to appear in the user-facing selection list in Settings > Camera > Camera Control (under options like "Launch Camera" or similar, where users pick which app opens on button press).

    Apple restricts this integration to apps that provide a legitimate camera capture experience (e.g., third-party camera apps like Halide, Blackmagic Camera, Instagram, Snapchat, ProCamera, etc.). Arbitrary non-camera apps do not qualify and won't appear in the list.

    Developer Steps to Support Launch from Camera Control

    Follow Apple's official framework and documentation (as of iOS 18 and later, still current in 2026):

    1. Adopt the LockedCameraCapture Framework
      This is the core requirement. It allows your app's camera UI to launch quickly—even from the Lock Screen, Control Center, Action button (on supported models), or the Camera Control button—without needing to unlock the device.

    2. Add a Locked Camera Capture Extension to Your Project:

      • Open your app in Xcode.
      • Go to File > New > Target.
      • Under iOS > Application Extension, select Locked Camera Capture Extension (sometimes listed as "Capture Extension" in templates).
      • Name the extension and finish. Xcode generates a template with a basic implementation using LockedCameraCaptureUIScene and often a UIImagePickerController example for rear-camera capture.
      • Implement your custom camera UI and capture logic inside the extension (using AVFoundation for photo/video capture, handling gestures, etc.).
    3. Implement Required Functionality:

      • Use APIs from the LockedCameraCapture framework to create a secure, constrained camera session that works when the device is locked.
      • Handle capture controls: The Camera Control button can act as a shutter (press to capture), support swipe gestures for zoom/exposure, light press for previews, etc.
      • For deeper integration (e.g., custom overlays, sliders for settings like ISO/exposure/zoom that respond to button gestures), adopt additional AVFoundation capture control APIs (see "Enhancing your app experience with the Camera Control" in Apple's docs).
      • Ensure your main app requests and handles camera permissions; the extension can share data via app groups if needed (e.g., user preferences or saved captures).
    4. Configure and Test:

      • Set up the extension's bundle ID, entitlements, and Info.plist correctly.
      • Build and install the app on a physical iPhone 16 or later model (simulator lacks hardware button support).
      • Once installed and launched at least once (to register), go to Settings > Camera > Camera Control.
      • Your app should now appear in the list of compatible camera apps (alongside Apple's Camera, Magnifier, Code Scanner, and other supported third-party apps).
      • Users select it to make a single press (or configured gesture) on the Camera Control button launch your app's capture experience directly.

    Key Resources from Apple

    • Main framework: LockedCameraCapture
    • Step-by-step guide: Creating a camera experience for the Lock Screen
    • WWDC sessions: "Build a great Lock Screen camera capture experience" (WWDC 2024) and follow-ups like "Enhancing your camera experience with capture controls" (later sessions cover Camera Control specifics).
    • Sample/reference: Apple's AVCam sample code now includes LockedCameraCapture adoption.

    Additional Notes

    • Not for non-camera apps: If your app doesn't fit as a camera experience, it won't register. Workarounds exist on the user side (e.g., Shortcuts automation that triggers when a supported camera app opens), but that's not true developer integration.
    • Full support levels vary: Some apps only launch; others add rich gesture controls (e.g., swipe for zoom, light press for exposure preview).
    • Updates in later iOS: Features have expanded (e.g., better integration with AirPods or external controls in iOS 26+), but the core extension method remains the same.

    If your app is a camera app and you've added the extension but it doesn't appear, double-check the target configuration, clean/rebuild, reinstall, or reboot the device—some developers report needing that initially. For exact code samples, check Apple's docs or community repos like lockedCameraExtension demos on GitHub.

  • edited February 24

    Art museum pics

  • Spring?

    Not much activity here? Is the hype over?

  • @sugus said:
    Not much activity here? Is the hype over?

    I'm still using XP4N, but a lot of my photos end up being very similar because they're taken on the beach or in the park when I walk the dog in the morning.

  • some new-ish ones though:

  • I always forget about using this, instead of the stock camera app.

    Of course when I’m using a camera for utility type purposes at work, for example I might need to snap a quick pic of an invoice, or a broken piece of equipment, then I’m not really worried about how fancy the picture is.

    But, if I’m trying to capture some photography, in an artistic manner, this app can produce some amazing results!

    I like the guy’s idea a few posts above ^^^ regarding using the iphone’s camera control button.

  • Holiday in Japan:







  • @Bietfriek all excellent! :)

  • @skiphunt said:
    @Bietfriek all excellent! :)

    Thanks, can’t go wrong here. XP4N: best € 0,99 I had ever spend on an app!


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