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SAND - Sequencer and AUv3 Host by Matteo Caldari - Released

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  • heshes

    @Darkstring said:

    @hes said:

    @Darkstring said:
    When will custom scales be implemented?

    I don't see them on the roadmap.

    Have custom scales even been requested?

    https://sand-app.canny.io/feature-requests

    Yes, back in 2023.
    So…

    I see it now. I gave it another vote. It's not at the top of the request list, but hopefully is something that will get done eventually. . .

  • nuno_agogonuno_agogo

    @SAND said:

    @nuno_agogo said:

    @SAND actually it is no freeze. the play button just is not reactive

    that means some plugin is failing to initialise, the play button is inactive until all the tracks are loaded

    @SAND i could delete and reinstall. do i have to backup the icloud projects?

    it's worth a try, no need to backup the iCloud projects, they won't be deleted if you delete the app

    today another update came. i can load and play projects now. thanks

  • BasscleffBasscleff
    edited June 16

    Uhm.... Even with the latest update 3.02 its impossible to record Midi FX plugins correctly as they were played. Mosaic doesn't work at all (you can hear the processed notes but doesn't record anything), other plugins like Housebud are recording only half of the played notes.... POST MIDI PLUGINS was turned on of course in the recording settings.
    Also tried to route a Chord plugin from another midi track to and instrument track --> nothing....

  • SANDSAND

    @Basscleff said:
    Uhm.... Even with the latest update 3.02 its impossible to record Midi FX plugins correctly as they were played. Mosaic doesn't work at all (you can hear the processed notes but doesn't record anything), other plugins like Housebud are recording only half of the played notes.... POST MIDI PLUGINS was turned on of course in the recording settings.
    Also tried to route a Chord plugin from another midi track to and instrument track --> nothing....
    Sorry to say this, but this app is buggy as hell...

    Hi @Basscleff , I just tested recording from Mozaic and other plugins, I can't reproduce the issues. Can you share with me some more details? Maybe the project file or a video? Email to [email protected] . Thanks!

  • SANDSAND

    @hes said:

    @Darkstring said:

    @hes said:

    @Darkstring said:
    When will custom scales be implemented?

    I don't see them on the roadmap.

    Have custom scales even been requested?

    https://sand-app.canny.io/feature-requests

    Yes, back in 2023.
    So…

    I see it now. I gave it another vote. It's not at the top of the request list, but hopefully is something that will get done eventually. . .

    @Darkstring thank you for your patience! Yes they're on my todo list

  • TurokTurok

    What about PDC?

  • BasscleffBasscleff
    edited June 16

    Hi @Sand

    Thanks for your fast answer and sorry about my rant, but IOS is so frustrating in general that I am nearly giving up on this platform...
    I am on the latest OS26, iPad Pro M1.

    Indeed a few mosaic chord presets doesn't work at all (which I used in other Daws w/o a problem) Tried it now with a few other mosaic presets and they seem to work. Other apps like Scaler have weird sustained notes when recorded, Chordbud has now worked ok, sometimes not....

    Ah btw: why do you have to change the midi recording settings AFTER recording from "post midi" to "Pre midi" even when it's in playback mode? Otherwise the processed notes are going twice processed.

    In other DAWs the processing only affects the recordings.... and its also labeled in Sand as "Recording options".

  • BasscleffBasscleff

    Ok.... now I tried it again with Housebud. The processed (recorded) notes showing up in the clip but they don´t play at all. Silence....
    :(

  • SANDSAND

    @Basscleff said:
    Ok.... now I tried it again with Housebud. The processed (recorded) notes showing up in the clip but they don´t play at all. Silence....
    :(

    Does Housebud allow midi input to go through? Or is it output only? In case, could you try disabling it and test playback of the recorded notes?

  • OptahealthOptahealth

    @Basscleff said:
    Uhm.... Even with the latest update 3.02 its impossible to record Midi FX plugins correctly as they were played. Mosaic doesn't work at all (you can hear the processed notes but doesn't record anything), other plugins like Housebud are recording only half of the played notes.... POST MIDI PLUGINS was turned on of course in the recording settings.
    Also tried to route a Chord plugin from another midi track to and instrument track --> nothing....

    I have very similar issue. Using Scaler 3 and Chordpond both -- only records SOME of the notes not all.
    Newest ipad M5 latest IOS 26 everything is updated.

    BTW thanks for the updates so far. I love the way this app works, just needs a few more bugs worked out.

  • SANDSAND

    @Optahealth said:

    @Basscleff said:
    Uhm.... Even with the latest update 3.02 its impossible to record Midi FX plugins correctly as they were played. Mosaic doesn't work at all (you can hear the processed notes but doesn't record anything), other plugins like Housebud are recording only half of the played notes.... POST MIDI PLUGINS was turned on of course in the recording settings.
    Also tried to route a Chord plugin from another midi track to and instrument track --> nothing....

    I have very similar issue. Using Scaler 3 and Chordpond both -- only records SOME of the notes not all.
    Newest ipad M5 latest IOS 26 everything is updated.

    BTW thanks for the updates so far. I love the way this app works, just needs a few more bugs worked out.

    thank you! I can now reproduce the problem with Chordpond, will provide a fix shortly

  • BasscleffBasscleff
    edited June 16

    @SAND

    @SAND said:

    @Basscleff said:
    Ok.... now I tried it again with Housebud. The processed (recorded) notes showing up in the clip but they don´t play at all. Silence....
    :(

    Does Housebud allow midi input to go through? Or is it output only? In case, could you try disabling it and test playback of the recorded notes?

    Indeed, switching off Housebud solved the problem.

    Tried now the same Setup in Cubasis, and when I press "Rec to Track" (which means basically print MIDI FX to Track) the notes where correct recorded and played back as they should (even when the Midi Thru button which is available on Cubasis was not pressed and Chord bud was ON).

    ... AND the processed (recorded) notes are not going through the Chord plugin again, which makes absolutely sense.

    Thanks for your engagement!

  • BasscleffBasscleff
    edited June 16

    Out of curiosity I tried Mosaic on Cubasis with the Patchstorage Preset "Intervalic_Chord" and it records perfectly. That's the one which didn't work on SAND.
    Thought I was trippin but I was correct.

    On IOS there are so many bugs, flaws, weird things I never encountered on MAC OS or PC with tons of plugins in Ableton.

  • SANDSAND

    @Basscleff said:
    Out of curiosity I tried Mosaic on Cubasis with the Patchstorage Preset "Intervalic_Chord" and it records perfectly. That's the one which didn't work on SAND.
    Thought I was trippin but I was correct.

    I can imagine the problem with Intervalic_Chord is the same as the one I fixed for ChordPond. I'll release the new version as soon as possible.

  • FizzyLizzy27FizzyLizzy27

    Now that it has audio tracks, would SAND be a good choice as a guitar effect chain and riff sketchpad? I was hoping Koala getting AUv3 would do the trick but seems not, so maybe SAND will do what I want.

  • BasscleffBasscleff

    Thanks SAND!

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    Now that it has audio tracks, would SAND be a good choice as a guitar effect chain and riff sketchpad? I was hoping Koala getting AUv3 would do the trick but seems not, so maybe SAND will do what I want.

    Just curious, what can you not do in koala?

  • FizzyLizzy27FizzyLizzy27

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:

    @wim said:

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    Any recommendations on setting up a guitar fx chain using AUv3s in Koala? Something like:
    Electric Guitar -> Audio Interface -> GtrEQ -> Silver Bullet -> EchoFlower. Is that doable?

    The only workaround I’m finding is loading AUM and routing audio to Koala via AudioPipeline, then adding those fx on a bus in koala. Am I over complicating it?

    Eh? You should be no reason not to be able to route your audio interface directly into Koala.

    Failing that, you can add Koala as an FX in AUM.

    Right, I can route it in, but how do I get live audio from my input to route through fx before hitting record? I see I can add the effects on the busses in the Perform tab, and I see my interface. But can I only apply bus effects after I record a guitar part to a pad? If that’s the case you would only hear the direct input before it goes to your effect bus, so only dry signal.

    My ultimate question is: can I route the interface input to a bus and preview the effect chain?

    @Edward_Alexander thats the gist, you can check the main thread for more details. Essentially though, it doesn’t seem like you can route live audio input through a bus on Koala, only pads. Since there’s no way to assign an input onto a pad, you’d be recording dry guitar onto a pad and then applying effects to that pad. So no way to live preview wet audio input.

    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/35446/koala-tips-tricks-tutorials-and-demos-koala-sampler-by-elf-audio/p5

  • FizzyLizzy27FizzyLizzy27

    My hope for Koala was to have drum, bass, and synth on pads along with live guitar input. Then just record some riffs to pads and piece it all together. Maybe SAND can act similarly?

  • SANDSAND
    edited June 17

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    to have drum, bass, and synth on pads along with live guitar input. Then just record some riffs to pads and piece it all together. Maybe SAND can act similarly?

    Yes you can totally do that in SAND, I'm also a guitar player and this is one of the reasons I made SAND and audio tracks :D

    Just setup the audio input, arm the guitar track and press record. When you're ready to record tap the clip you want to record.

    You can also record one clip right after another by using the sections in song mode. I'll have a video shortly on how to do that

  • drconfusiondrconfusion

    Ok this last comment got me intrigued & I just picked up the iaps.

    I’m running iPad Air m2, iOS 26.5 & getting consistent crashes when selecting audio regions in the audio editor. What’s odd is that sand doesn’t fully crash, I can still see it in the app picker, but it kicks me out of sand to the “desktop”.

    Very keen to learn how you can turn midi clips into audio for fast/committed work.

  • drconfusiondrconfusion

    @drconfusion said:

    Very keen to learn how you can turn midi clips into audio for fast/committed work.

    Oh word? By dragging & dropping the midi clips to an audio track? 💥🤘🏻💥

  • wimwim

    I need another sequencer/arranger like I need another hole in my head, but wow, Sand looks really good.

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