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Fugue Machine, new app by maker of Arpeggionome, AVAILABLE NOW

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  • @Noirflux said: thanks for the feedback ! I didn't do much, it was just a quick test, I find it promising :)

    agree ! this app is really incredible !

    Yep, that's exactly what I did, and since most of the gadgets have octaves controls for the oscillator, it's possible to go back to something more intricated ( make the very high notes less high, the super low bass less low, etc ....)

  • Don't forget to switch off loop mode, run over X number of 8 bars scenes and play with the transpose slider in fugue machine !

  • edited October 2015

    Nice. Some thoughts for future:

    1: Pattern management. Instead of Backups, call them Banks. And allow loading from or storing to the current pattern. This way one can construct a Bank for a particualr performance from an arbitrary collection of patterns.

    2: pitch shift a play head based on an incoming note on its assigned channel. Sorta like an Arp.

    3: continuing on the Arp theme, hold, octave traversal (perhaps per playhead for this), and chord functions from MIDI In. Still a single pattern / multiple playheads idea though.

    4: Optional delay changing patterns when selecting a new one until the current one finishes some definition of a cycle (a specified head reaches start position, or all heads do though this could take some time:)). Keeps the rythm going.

    5: Program Change reception should have its own MIDI channel and source port. As should each head (I know, mostly already on the list). Nice possibly to also implement Bank select. (NB I did not mean each head should have its own pattern too. Although, ...)

    6: option to have a program change stored for each head and send it out when starting a new pattern. PC for this also recordable as well as finger-editable.

    7: Bank or individul Pattern import/export using at least the AudioShare SDK (yes, AS can handle MIDI files). Many of us here abhor having to hook up to iTunes for this.

    8: more CC's per note, not just velocity. Also pitchbend. Possibly even save these per head?

    9: MIDI learn control of all knobs, sliders, and swiches, e.g. mute, record, start, stop, tempo, scale, timebase granularity - per head. Per head controls listen on their assigned port/channel, device level like PC also on device assigned port/channel. If all configs had CC assignments, these could be used to make a Pattern MIDI file pure MIDI, no need for an additional non-MIDI blob for config info.

    10: a factory patch for restoring sanity to the exploded head occasioned by delving too deep into the recursion pit all these options created. Plus a random chapter from Godel Escher Bach. (Note: if anyone hasn't read ths yet, I consider it on the essential reading list for all Humans with a functioning brain:).

  • This app is the closest anyone has come yet to capturing a little of the power of Numerology for the iPad. I would love to see it continue to draw from those concepts (like the varying loop points mentioned here)

    @Kaikoo said:
    Alexandernaut

    In his review, http://www.musicappblog.com/fugue-machine-review/

    John saying the following:
    However, if you could set up different loop points for each of the four playheads, that would open up all sorts of very interesting creative options in much the same way that patterning’s different drums can be set to patterns with different step numbers. I’ve no idea what the technical challenges might be to code this sort of feature… but it would be great to see (and hear).

    ........................

    +1

    I am highly expecting this feature for Fugue Machine too!

  • Added an AB preset for Fugue, Alchemy, Neo, holy shit. Have no idea if I did it right (as regards state-saving the Alchemy etc), but it was one of those things where after about ten minutes of noodling I just had to fucking stop. Blown head etc.

    God, for a song mode. Even something like DM1 or even more so Zilladrone. Ridiculous.

  • Do any of you have Consequence on your desktop? Is this app a lot like that in the end, just simpler? I'm afraid I'll buy it then be underwhelmed. However, I do find Consequence to be a bit overwhelming, so maybe it's just right.

  • @aaronpc Depends how specialized your whelm is I guess, but I'm thinking that anyone who can't get Full Joy from this isn't either a) paying attention to the possible beauty or b) is after the kind of music that this won't serve. I probably fall into the latter category, on paper, but even a buffoon like me was seduced.

  • Never mind. Already broke down and bought the damnable thing. I use the iPad for sketching and happy accidents, and this thing just looks like a happy accident machine. I've been doing a lot of this kind of work with Scalegen and Gestrument, but really have to block out some time to finesse them.

    My only worry really is how fast requested new features may arrive. Arpeggionome was pretty fleshed out from the get go, so hopefully Alexander(?) is down to implement some of the good ideas the forum has suggested.

  • edited October 2015

    I just tried the demo of consequence, so I'm not sure but I wouldn't compare those 2

    It sits in a strange spot between auxy/youcompose/xyntesir ,very specialised/Limited... but at the same time the limitations are very smart and inspiring

    And the result sound a little like what you would expect from Numerology (as cited earlier on this thread)

    I'm under the charm, so I'm gonna advise you to grab it

    EDIT: I'm glad for you that you took the plunge

  • Personnally the 4 channels and custom scales are on the top of the list

    the rest would be icing on the cake, as long as the wonderful UI is not sacrificed

  • @aaronpc Interested in your thoughts when you've gotten amongst it.

    @pierre I think I've liked almost all of the suggestions our informal R&D team has come up with, but I'm longing for song mode. Well, and the ability to start/end each head at a different spot. But I've also got a long way to go to exhaust what you characterize as limitations :)

  • Welp, I did it again. Visiting this AB forum is dangerous for me because I get hooked on the idea of another fantastic app. And this one is pretty darn good, so I bought it and have been having fun. I think late on Friday night is my danger hour, maybe I'm bored, maybe looking to spend a little of the hard earned cash from a week of working... whatever, a few weeks ago it was Patterning, before that it was Diode-108 and Gumdrops, and before that it was Samplr. Now to play with Fugue Machine some more. I need a new iPad, the iPad2 is starting to show its limitations now.

  • Here's a quick SynthMaster improvisation over a Fugue Machine sequence recorded into Cubasis.

  • . Well, and the ability to start/end each head at a different spot.

    Play head start position can be set via "start" dials for each track. Don't know how to set end position but I'm finding the transport controls to be very playable.

  • I am afraid of different looping points on 4 playheads might break the rules Fugue Machine is representing to us. I should not suggest too much. The original concept is uniquely done. Just a song mode is good enough. If different looping points is on the way to implement, I think it should still follow pairing method; e.g. 2 vs 2 playheads for loop chaining (1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 2-3, 2-4, 3-4 for 6 combination possibilities). In this way, there is no rules breaking on proportioning, cycling and recursive nature.

  • edited October 2015

    But Captain @Kaikoo, we are simple men and there is little time left. We will be dead soon and for an awfully long time, more so than even eternity provides for; the rules must on occasion be ours, each of us, to do with as we must.

  • edited October 2015

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    But Captain Kaikoo, we are simple men and there is little time left. We will be dead soon and for an awfully long time, more so than even eternity provides for; the rules must on occasion be ours, each of us, to do with as we must.

    I am with JG on this point, however I only break the rules for those things that bring me pleasure, not so much for things that might bring me pain.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Added an AB preset for Fugue, Alchemy, Neo, holy shit. Have no idea if I did it right (as regards state-saving the Alchemy etc), but it was one of those things where after about ten minutes of noodling I just had to fucking stop. Blown head etc.

    God, for a song mode. Even something like DM1 or even more so Zilladrone. Ridiculous.

    I get around this by creating a longer sequence, and moving the start/end points around look

  • Yep I think rules are meant to be broken sometimes :)

    This is definitely one of those tools I didn't know I needed in my life....
    A song mode is definitely very desirable. As it's probably a few months from materialising I'm going to attempt to set up a remote way of doing it. I think pro midi should work.

    A Zillidrone type song mode would be great yes....

  • I might have confused this app with another one. My bad

  • edited October 2015

    Record different patterns into different clips in Genome - then you can have a song mode. You could also use @Pierres method and split out the different play heads to different tracks in Genome and then drive 4 different synths/instruments.

    Edit: or ProMidi (instead of Genome). Although no song mode in ProMidi?

  • I was just thinking of using pro midi to send program change messages to Fugue Machine in a sequence but Genome would probably be better for this since it has a repeatable song mode.. I'd prefer it this way round so the song remains live and you can still make changes on the fly whilst playing back.

    Someone earlier mentioned playing back through Scalegen to multiple synths, this works really well too and is easy to set up, give it a try if you haven't :)

  • Great app. Ingenious indeed.

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Record different patterns into different clips in Genome - then you can have a song mode. You could also use Pierres method and split out the different play heads to different tracks in Genome and then drive 4 different synths/instruments.

    Edit: or ProMidi (instead of Genome). Although no song mode in ProMidi?

    And that's why I love zilladrone and dm1's (and no doubt others) direct song mode. Not only am I simple, my flow such as it is has to happen right here in the palm of my ear. I envy you scientists your connection skills, but realistically, and if I'm going to make anything work for me (me, me), I want a 'push here now go again immediately' button.

  • edited October 2015

    One more very happy and impressed user here. I’m finding Fugue Machine very very inspiring. So easy to create nice stuff out of very simple sequences.

    A huge thanks to @Alexandernaut for creating this incredible app. And thanks to those who have posted their first experiments here - @pierre, @JohnnyGoodyear, @bsantoro - they were all very inspiring.

    Below is my first quick play with it, using the same pattern to drive everything, from the drums to the bass, strings and leads. More of an experiment than anything else.

  • @AndyX cool. What do you use here?

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    AndyX cool. What do you use here?

    Johnny, thanks! Recorded the 4 playheads separately, in four separate MIDI takes, into MTS. Then tried different combinations of playheads using different soundfonts. A somewhat unstructured and random process, just looking for which combinations of playheads sounded best with my drums, bass, and the other soundfonts!

  • Gah! This isn't at all what I assumed it would be. The mention of transposing made me think that the play heads are transposing the original sequence. Nothing of the sort, they just play the same sequence.

  • @Alexandernaut Many thanks for considering those of us still on 7 btw. Love the app.

  • @u0421793 said:
    Gah! This isn't at all what I assumed it would be. The mention of transposing made me think that the play heads are transposing the original sequence. Nothing of the sort, they just play the same sequence.

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    ...but your our curmudgeon :)

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