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Tonestack on sale

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  • Bargain, obviously, precursor to AUv3 announcement maybe?

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    Already have everything ;)
    Maybe going AU ? (Every module as AU , heaven ! )

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    @TheVimFuego said:
    Bargain, obviously, precursor to AUv3 announcement maybe?

    @Korakios said:
    Already have everything ;)
    Maybe going AU ? (Every module as AU , heaven ! )

    Have the lot too, Had the same AUv3 thought myself ;)

  • Fingers crossed!

  • Yonac seems to have a superior audio engine. Their products sound better than their competitors. I wonder if they have their own audio engine code-base vs the JUCE or AudioKit code? If anyone has clues it would be good to know.

    ToneStack beats the other top Guitar Amp Sims in A-B-C testing here.
    The Galileo Organ App always gets top mentions on sites with real B3 hardware fanatics
    The Magellan, Kaspar, Kauldron synths are always highly praised here

    Just be warned... once you start using ToneStack you'll just keep adding their FX IAP's so getting a discount on the Motherloads 1 and 2 could save you big time. The whole array of Amps and FX's is addictive. Using the IAA approach I have used their FX in Cubasis, AUM, etc. before I started buying AUv3 specific FX Apps... like Amazing Noises "Limiter - Audio Processor for $3": a cheap and effective tool. Also got FAC Maxima. That's about it but I can see why I'll keep adding more as they go on sale or I have a problem to be fixed ASAP.

    Having AUv3 access to their audio engine code should be very useful if it's universally better than other code bases. It just seems clearer and more pleasing across a range of use cases.

  • I love the fact it’s light and can run on 64 buffer setting .
    As for the sound it’s 100% just a matter of taste ....

  • @Korakios said:
    I love the fact it’s light and can run on 64 buffer setting .
    As for the sound it’s 100% just a matter of taste ....

    You must hear the difference between ToneStack and Amplitube. I'd give you the benefit of the doubt for "JamUp Pro" or "Bias Amp" but Yonac just seems to rise above the pack for quality audio.

  • Of course, with guitar sounds the Roland Chorus clean vs Hi-Watt metal apps leave a lot of room for intangibles regarding great "tone" re-creations. We all bring our own preferences into the evaluation. I don't want to be that guy. Sorry. Still, Yonac's on sale. Take advantage. Good stuff cheaper.

  • Not sure how much I care for the "tones" but I do love being able to mess with the pitch and speed on the little tape deck. Worth 3 bucks for that alone.

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    Just record a little chord progression and lower the speed and BAM, you instantly sound like you're really recording your guitar on 3 dollars worth of gear.

  • For practicing guitar it makes perfect sense for them to add a quick recording feature.
    You lay dow a rhythm track and practice soloing against it. $3 is cheap to have that feature.
    It sounds great as a cassette recorder replacement. Most guitar players send more on strings than Apps. Real amps do sound a lot better than headphones to get a great tone.

    Once you move into the digital domain with recording then all this stuff starts to make sense as a good trade off.

    Yonac still sounds better to me. Closer to real and the neighbors don't complain. I live in the digital domain.

  • I love Tonestack, but if you play metal, it doesn't cut it, at all. Bias FX and Bias Amp for the win. Though, AmpOne and ToneBridge are pretty dang good for metal as well. I only wish the effect pedals in Bias FX were more like the tone/sound of the ones in TS.

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  • @High5denied said:
    I love Tonestack, but if you play metal, it doesn't cut it, at all.

    Thanks. I tend to forget there are many valid forms of musical art. I should at a minimum recognize a good metal amp sound. I learn more every day. I have the BIAS Apps so I'll play them and compare their Hi-Watt tones to see if it's obvious.

  • @Dawdles said:
    Hoping for ToneStack AU too. But if they decide to charge customers for buying Motherload bundles or individual add-ons all over again etc then it’s total boycott time. Happy to pay an IAP for new AU functionality or even buy a new version of the core app that carries over info of my previous bundles IAP, but no way that it would be justified to also make customers pay for previous IAP for all those pedals and amps all over again too. AU is meant to be an advancement in iOS functionality, not an insane Cash Cow for devs to use to get paid twice for the same r&d. Hoping they do the honourable thing and just charge for the AU aspect...

    I agree, but that could be wishful thinking. Look what happened when Yonac Galileo went AUv3 - brand new app with a brand new (higher) price tag. Consider also that when Fabfilter recently introduced AUv3 support for Pro-Q2 you had to rebuy the app even if you had bought it in Auria. Anyway, let’s see what they do. I too have a significant investment in TS + Motherloads so I would love it if Yonac tipped their hats to the Yonac faithful

  • I've got Motherlode V1 - I presume I can't bypass V2 and go straight to the V3 upgrade?

  • @MonzoPro said:
    I've got Motherlode V1 - I presume I can't bypass V2 and go straight to the V3 upgrade?

    There was an upgrade available at release of those which was cheaper, from v1 - v2 and then again from v2-v3 so it is possible Motherlode 3 contains everything.

    Would be worth asking over on the Yonac forum.

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  • @zeroG said:

    @Dawdles said:
    Hoping for ToneStack AU too. But if they decide to charge customers for buying Motherload bundles or individual add-ons all over again etc then it’s total boycott time. Happy to pay an IAP for new AU functionality or even buy a new version of the core app that carries over info of my previous bundles IAP, but no way that it would be justified to also make customers pay for previous IAP for all those pedals and amps all over again too. AU is meant to be an advancement in iOS functionality, not an insane Cash Cow for devs to use to get paid twice for the same r&d. Hoping they do the honourable thing and just charge for the AU aspect...

    I agree, but that could be wishful thinking. Look what happened when Yonac Galileo went AUv3 - brand new app with a brand new (higher) price tag. Consider also that when Fabfilter recently introduced AUv3 support for Pro-Q2 you had to rebuy the app even if you had bought it in Auria. Anyway, let’s see what they do. I too have a significant investment in TS + Motherloads so I would love it if Yonac tipped their hats to the Yonac faithful

    I'd happily pay for the AUv3, however I'd like to be able to transfer my existing Motherlode v3 and not have to purchase that again.

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  • @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    I've got Motherlode V1 - I presume I can't bypass V2 and go straight to the V3 upgrade?

    There was an upgrade available at release of those which was cheaper, from v1 - v2 and then again from v2-v3 so it is possible Motherlode 3 contains everything.

    Would be worth asking over on the Yonac forum.

    Cheers Andy, I'll have a dig around later.

    @Dawdles said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @zeroG said:

    @Dawdles said:
    Hoping for ToneStack AU too. But if they decide to charge customers for buying Motherload bundles or individual add-ons all over again etc then it’s total boycott time. Happy to pay an IAP for new AU functionality or even buy a new version of the core app that carries over info of my previous bundles IAP, but no way that it would be justified to also make customers pay for previous IAP for all those pedals and amps all over again too. AU is meant to be an advancement in iOS functionality, not an insane Cash Cow for devs to use to get paid twice for the same r&d. Hoping they do the honourable thing and just charge for the AU aspect...

    I agree, but that could be wishful thinking. Look what happened when Yonac Galileo went AUv3 - brand new app with a brand new (higher) price tag. Consider also that when Fabfilter recently introduced AUv3 support for Pro-Q2 you had to rebuy the app even if you had bought it in Auria. Anyway, let’s see what they do. I too have a significant investment in TS + Motherloads so I would love it if Yonac tipped their hats to the Yonac faithful

    I'd happily pay for the AUv3, however I'd like to be able to transfer my existing Motherlode v3 and not have to purchase that again.

    +1. Paying for AU upgrade or new version no problem. Paying for EVERYTHING again....no chance ;)

    Yeah, this paying for everything all over again thing that seems to be becoming popular is getting a bit scary, considering how much I've spent on this stuff already. I cannot afford to buy it all again, and then again, and then again...

  • @Dawdles said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @zeroG said:

    @Dawdles said:
    Hoping for ToneStack AU too. But if they decide to charge customers for buying Motherload bundles or individual add-ons all over again etc then it’s total boycott time. Happy to pay an IAP for new AU functionality or even buy a new version of the core app that carries over info of my previous bundles IAP, but no way that it would be justified to also make customers pay for previous IAP for all those pedals and amps all over again too. AU is meant to be an advancement in iOS functionality, not an insane Cash Cow for devs to use to get paid twice for the same r&d. Hoping they do the honourable thing and just charge for the AU aspect...

    I agree, but that could be wishful thinking. Look what happened when Yonac Galileo went AUv3 - brand new app with a brand new (higher) price tag. Consider also that when Fabfilter recently introduced AUv3 support for Pro-Q2 you had to rebuy the app even if you had bought it in Auria. Anyway, let’s see what they do. I too have a significant investment in TS + Motherloads so I would love it if Yonac tipped their hats to the Yonac faithful

    I'd happily pay for the AUv3, however I'd like to be able to transfer my existing Motherlode v3 and not have to purchase that again.

    +1. Paying for AU upgrade or new version no problem. Paying for EVERYTHING again....no chance ;)

    Yep, that seems fair - our loyalty is respected but they still get revenue. I’d defo go for that

  • Any road, I’m sure they’ll get a ton of new customers given there are so many folks crying out for a decent guitar rig sim that’s AUv3 (they’ll probably release mudderload v4 at same time so we end up forking out more anyway :D )

  • @zeroG said:
    Any road, I’m sure they’ll get a ton of new customers given there are so many folks crying out for a decent guitar rig sim that’s AUv3 (they’ll probably release mudderload v4 at same time so we end up forking out more anyway :D )

    This is also very true, now to start dreaming about what might be in a v4 Motherlode, Motherlode 3 seems pretty complete to me. I have some spare plastic tubing if they want to make a real Talkbox :D

  • @Dawdles said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @zeroG said:

    @Dawdles said:
    Hoping for ToneStack AU too. But if they decide to charge customers for buying Motherload bundles or individual add-ons all over again etc then it’s total boycott time. Happy to pay an IAP for new AU functionality or even buy a new version of the core app that carries over info of my previous bundles IAP, but no way that it would be justified to also make customers pay for previous IAP for all those pedals and amps all over again too. AU is meant to be an advancement in iOS functionality, not an insane Cash Cow for devs to use to get paid twice for the same r&d. Hoping they do the honourable thing and just charge for the AU aspect...

    I agree, but that could be wishful thinking. Look what happened when Yonac Galileo went AUv3 - brand new app with a brand new (higher) price tag. Consider also that when Fabfilter recently introduced AUv3 support for Pro-Q2 you had to rebuy the app even if you had bought it in Auria. Anyway, let’s see what they do. I too have a significant investment in TS + Motherloads so I would love it if Yonac tipped their hats to the Yonac faithful

    I'd happily pay for the AUv3, however I'd like to be able to transfer my existing Motherlode v3 and not have to purchase that again.

    +1. Paying for AU upgrade or new version no problem. Paying for EVERYTHING again....no chance ;)

    Yup, but I’ve got a bad feeling following the Galileo 2 thing.

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  • @Dawdles said:

    @zeroG said:
    Any road, I’m sure they’ll get a ton of new customers given there are so many folks crying out for a decent guitar rig sim that’s AUv3 (they’ll probably release mudderload v4 at same time so we end up forking out more anyway :D )

    Something else’ll come along soon enough. If they charge for EVERYTHIING from scratch then I’d rather go without until something does than to pony up twice and feed ££ to that kind of company. TBH Fabfilter Saturn would probably do me fine for an iOS AU amp sim and has a ton of other excellent uses. I’d probably buy that before re-buying all of tonestack and use Saturn with other dedicated fx plugins instead of ToneStack chains, just out of principle....

    I haven’t got Saturn, so I’d be tempted to do the same.

  • @Dawdles said:

    @zeroG said:
    Any road, I’m sure they’ll get a ton of new customers given there are so many folks crying out for a decent guitar rig sim that’s AUv3 (they’ll probably release mudderload v4 at same time so we end up forking out more anyway :D )

    Something else’ll come along soon enough. If they charge for EVERYTHIING from scratch then I’d rather go without until something does than to pony up twice and feed ££ to that kind of company. TBH Fabfilter Saturn would probably do me fine for an iOS AU amp sim and has a ton of other excellent uses. I’d probably buy that before re-buying all of tonestack and use Saturn with other dedicated fx plugins instead of ToneStack chains, just out of principle....

    Be even worse if they just give the old app and all pedals facelifts/renames and fob it all off as a totally new thing.

    But we’ll see....

    Yeah I bought Saturn for Auria and it’s very good but I just don’t use Auria anymore - if / when it does goes AUv3, well tbh I don’t think I’ll fancy forking out for it all over again (see a theme developing here?). My fallback plan is Tonebridge which is AUv3 and surprisingly good. Amazed it’s free but not complaining :p

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  • @Dawdles said:

    @zeroG said:

    @Dawdles said:

    @zeroG said:
    Any road, I’m sure they’ll get a ton of new customers given there are so many folks crying out for a decent guitar rig sim that’s AUv3 (they’ll probably release mudderload v4 at same time so we end up forking out more anyway :D )

    Something else’ll come along soon enough. If they charge for EVERYTHIING from scratch then I’d rather go without until something does than to pony up twice and feed ££ to that kind of company. TBH Fabfilter Saturn would probably do me fine for an iOS AU amp sim and has a ton of other excellent uses. I’d probably buy that before re-buying all of tonestack and use Saturn with other dedicated fx plugins instead of ToneStack chains, just out of principle....

    Be even worse if they just give the old app and all pedals facelifts/renames and fob it all off as a totally new thing.

    But we’ll see....

    Yeah I bought Saturn for Auria and it’s very good but I just don’t use Auria anymore - if / when it does goes AUv3, well tbh I don’t think I’ll fancy forking out for it all over again (see a theme developing here?). My fallback plan is Tonebridge which is AUv3 and surprisingly good. Amazed it’s free but not complaining :p

    For now the ‘previously unique to Auria’ thing seems pretty unique and I’m down for giving those companies the benefit of the doubt while they’re breaking out. They found a loophole for providing multiple instance plugins before AU was a thing so it’s hard not to give them kudos, even if it was within a walled garden, they eventually just suddenly found themselves in a corner and it would have been insane for them not to break out of Auria ASAP.......Makes clear sense and even if I’d previously bought the Auria plugins I wouldn’t feel too sour at them for that.

    Tonebridge is actually really useful for a freebie. Made my favourite iOS tape warble effect in it. Some decent other chains too. But it’s really static in AU, zero tweakability to fine tune, doesn’t even have wet/dry etc...

    It’s not that I don’t commend FF for breaking out of their walled garden, it’s more that I’m not made of money :)
    I think the main thing is having a fallback plan be it Saturn, Tonebridge or whatever in case Yonac disappoints. Hopefully it won’t come to that.

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