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  • @JackDwyerburger said:

    @audio_DT said:

    Do you use it? Worth getting? It doesn't seem to get much love on here, but I've been close to getting it a few times. I'm wondering again!

    It’s awesome for mixing. I use it once I have some stuff ready to be arranged and mixed. I use other stuff for creation and jamming though

    Thanks - I'll have a ponder. Too many sales - can't decide. Now Electribe is AU I'm definitely gonna grab that one. Maybe this, too.

  • @audio_DT said:

    Do you use it? Worth getting? It doesn't seem to get much love on here, but I've been close to getting it a few times. I'm wondering again!

    No, don’t have any Auria. Have Cubasis, which is great, but Ferrite has spoiled me with its quick and easy editing. Could be just me, though...

    ❓Question for anyone with Auria... there are three versions in the app store. I was leaning towards Pro, but even after reading the descriptions I cannot exactly tell what the differences are. Or if in in-app purchases are even the same? I think one can upgrade to Pro?

  • Whaaaat? Korg's going AU? Excellent, as long as they include the Odyssey

  • Could anyone check if Yonac Tonestack iaps are still on sale? I heard from my friend that apps are not on sale yet but Motherload v1 is two times more expensive than motherload v3.0 (sale price)

  • @haulin_notes said:

    @audio_DT said:

    Do you use it? Worth getting? It doesn't seem to get much love on here, but I've been close to getting it a few times. I'm wondering again!

    No, don’t have any Auria. Have Cubasis, which is great, but Ferrite has spoiled me with its quick and easy editing. Could be just me, though...

    ❓Question for anyone with Auria... there are three versions in the app store. I was leaning towards Pro, but even after reading the descriptions I cannot exactly tell what the differences are. Or if in in-app purchases are even the same? I think one can upgrade to Pro?

    Regular can upgrade to Pro, but I have no idea if the IAP is on sale. I would just get Pro, it's much better than the regular (older) version: you get mix busses, AUX channels, MIDI, FF Twin and One, the Lyra sample player etc...

  • @MAtrixplan said:
    Could anyone check if Yonac Tonestack iaps are still on sale? I heard from my friend that apps are not on sale yet but Motherload v1 is two times more expensive than motherload v3.0 (sale price)

    Doesn’t look like it. V1 is 49.99 and 3 is 19.99

  • @oat_phipps said:
    Whaaaat? Korg's going AU? Excellent, as long as they include the Odyssey

    We’ve been waiting for Korg to go AUv3 longer than Ulysses was away from home in Homer’s Odyssey. 😅 I keeeed! Excellent job Korg! People will get more from the awesome array of classic apps.

  • @richardyot said:

    @haulin_notes said:

    @audio_DT said:

    Do you use it? Worth getting? It doesn't seem to get much love on here, but I've been close to getting it a few times. I'm wondering again!

    No, don’t have any Auria. Have Cubasis, which is great, but Ferrite has spoiled me with its quick and easy editing. Could be just me, though...

    ❓Question for anyone with Auria... there are three versions in the app store. I was leaning towards Pro, but even after reading the descriptions I cannot exactly tell what the differences are. Or if in in-app purchases are even the same? I think one can upgrade to Pro?

    Regular can upgrade to Pro, but I have no idea if the IAP is on sale. I would just get Pro, it's much better than the regular (older) version: you get mix busses, AUX channels, MIDI, FF Twin and One, the Lyra sample player etc...

    👍 Awesome, thanks! I’ll get Auria Pro, and not DAWdle around. (sorry 😋)

  • No confirmation if apps are included, but I assume they will be:

    I'm curious to see what happens to the bundle price, because it was never changed back up after the summer sale in August, and the App Store blurb still mentions said summer sale....

  • @haulin_notes said:

    @audio_DT said:

    Do you use it? Worth getting? It doesn't seem to get much love on here, but I've been close to getting it a few times. I'm wondering again!

    No, don’t have any Auria. Have Cubasis, which is great, but Ferrite has spoiled me with its quick and easy editing. Could be just me, though...

    ❓Question for anyone with Auria... there are three versions in the app store. I was leaning towards Pro, but even after reading the descriptions I cannot exactly tell what the differences are. Or if in in-app purchases are even the same? I think one can upgrade to Pro?

    Auria Pro has both MIDI and audio tracks. There other differences. See the chart at the bottom of this page:

    http://wavemachinelabs.com/Products/auria

  • @haulin_notes said:

    @richardyot said:

    @haulin_notes said:

    @audio_DT said:

    Do you use it? Worth getting? It doesn't seem to get much love on here, but I've been close to getting it a few times. I'm wondering again!

    No, don’t have any Auria. Have Cubasis, which is great, but Ferrite has spoiled me with its quick and easy editing. Could be just me, though...

    ❓Question for anyone with Auria... there are three versions in the app store. I was leaning towards Pro, but even after reading the descriptions I cannot exactly tell what the differences are. Or if in in-app purchases are even the same? I think one can upgrade to Pro?

    Regular can upgrade to Pro, but I have no idea if the IAP is on sale. I would just get Pro, it's much better than the regular (older) version: you get mix busses, AUX channels, MIDI, FF Twin and One, the Lyra sample player etc...

    👍 Awesome, thanks! I’ll get Auria Pro, and not DAWdle around. (sorry 😋)

    It's by far the best audio mixer on iOS, go for it 🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚🎚

  • @audio_DT said:
    Do you use it? Worth getting? It doesn't seem to get much love on here, but I've been close to getting it a few times. I'm wondering again!

    For mixing. I record stems elsewhere and import them in. The MIDI is powerful, but hard to use somehow. I hear it's quite buggy as well.

  • Just had confirmation that Sugar Bytes iOS deals will appear once the App Store updates :#

  • @cian said:

    @audio_DT said:
    Do you use it? Worth getting? It doesn't seem to get much love on here, but I've been close to getting it a few times. I'm wondering again!

    For mixing. I record stems elsewhere and import them in. The MIDI is powerful, but hard to use somehow. I hear it's quite buggy as well.

    If you are talking about Auria Pro, I would not describe its MIDI as “quite buggy”.

  • edited November 2019

    @audio_DT said:

    Do you use it? Worth getting? It doesn't seem to get much love on here, but I've been close to getting it a few times. I'm wondering again!

    The following is just my personal opinion and is biased by decades of using apps like Logic.

    Anyway. Auria Pro has an amazing feature set. I ended up buying the full version as it promised a sampler with EXS support and lots of cool specs.

    However.

    I really can’t recommend it.

    MIDI editing is awful. The piano roll is horrible to use. It can’t loop record. The UI can be unresponsive and glitchy.

    When you add auv3 tracks, every single track responds to MIDI at the same time. As default. You have to go into midi setting every time you add a track and turn off that feature. Every time. Maddening.

    When I have tried to use it to mix audio I keep running into problems and multiple crashes.

    I tried using auv3 MIDI sequencers and the timing is completely off when you record them. And if you add another midi fix it mutes everything else. So for example if I add a rozeta bassline then add a midi monitor, the bassline is muted and nothing will play. Which is just as well as it won’t be in time.

    When you use it for audio you have to zoom in and out all the time to be able to move or edit a region. The regions need to take up half the screen before the tap targets for looping appear. And when you are zoomed in far enough to be able to loop it’s impossible to drag the loop point where you want it because you’re zoomed in too far and lose all sense of position.

    Everything I try ends in frustration. It seems to be designed for people with brains wired differently to mine. But in my humble opinion there are too many features that lack attention to detail

    I won’t be using Auria again. I’m annoyed at myself that I kept trying to get on with if for long enough for the return period to expire. The more I use it the more I realise it’s designed for somebody else.

    I do like Nanostudio 2 and GarageBand and have no problems using either. I’ve used sequencers since the late 80s. so I may just be stuck in my way, but I think on the whole Auria is over ambitious and features got added before others were polished.

    Sorry for the rant. Its lack of love is fully justified I’m afraid. I really want to like it. I wanted to use it. I bought it after all.

    I have deleted it.

  • @klownshed said:

    @audio_DT said:

    Do you use it? Worth getting? It doesn't seem to get much love on here, but I've been close to getting it a few times. I'm wondering again!

    The following is just my personal opinion and is biased by decades of using apps like Logic.

    Anyway. Auria Pro has an amazing feature set. I ended up buying the full version as it promised a sampler with EXS support and lots of cool specs.

    However.

    I really can’t recommend it.

    MIDI editing is awful. The piano roll is horrible to use. It can’t loop record. The UI can be unresponsive and glitchy.

    When you add auv3 tracks, every single track responds to MIDI at the same time. As default. You have to go into midi setting every time you add a track and turn off that feature. Every time. Maddening.

    When I have tried to use it to mix audio I keep running into problems and multiple crashes.

    I tried using auv3 MIDI sequencers and the timing is completely off when you record them. And if you add another midi fix it mutes everything else. So for example if I add a rozeta bassline then add a midi monitor, the bassline is muted and nothing will play. Which is just as well as it won’t be in time.

    When you use it for audio you have to zoom in and out all the time to be able to move or edit a region. The regions need to take up half the screen before the tap targets for looping appear. And when you are zoomed in far enough to be able to loop it’s impossible to drag the loop point where you want it because you’re zoomed in too far and lose all sense of position.

    Everything I try ends in frustration. It seems to be designed for people with brains wired differently to mine. But in my humble opinion there are too many features that lack attention to detail

    I won’t be using Auria again. I’m annoyed at myself that I kept trying to get on with if for long enough for the return period to expire. The more I use it the more I realise it’s designed for somebody else.

    I do like Nanostudio 2 and GarageBand and have no problems using either. I’ve used sequencers since the late 80s. so I may just be stuck in my way, but I think on the whole Auria is over ambitious and features got added before others were polished.

    Sorry for the rant. Its lack of love is fully justified I’m afraid. I really want to like it. I wanted to use it. I bought it after all.

    I have deleted it.

    Aww - and this started so well! I'll give it a miss, then. Thank for the heads up - you've just saved me the best part of £25.

  • edited November 2019

    @audio_DT said:

    @klownshed said:

    @audio_DT said:

    Do you use it? Worth getting? It doesn't seem to get much love on here, but I've been close to getting it a few times. I'm wondering again!

    The following is just my personal opinion and is biased by decades of using apps like Logic.

    Anyway. Auria Pro has an amazing feature set. I ended up buying the full version as it promised a sampler with EXS support and lots of cool specs.

    However.

    I really can’t recommend it.

    MIDI editing is awful. The piano roll is horrible to use. It can’t loop record. The UI can be unresponsive and glitchy.

    When you add auv3 tracks, every single track responds to MIDI at the same time. As default. You have to go into midi setting every time you add a track and turn off that feature. Every time. Maddening.

    When I have tried to use it to mix audio I keep running into problems and multiple crashes.

    I tried using auv3 MIDI sequencers and the timing is completely off when you record them. And if you add another midi fix it mutes everything else. So for example if I add a rozeta bassline then add a midi monitor, the bassline is muted and nothing will play. Which is just as well as it won’t be in time.

    When you use it for audio you have to zoom in and out all the time to be able to move or edit a region. The regions need to take up half the screen before the tap targets for looping appear. And when you are zoomed in far enough to be able to loop it’s impossible to drag the loop point where you want it because you’re zoomed in too far and lose all sense of position.

    Everything I try ends in frustration. It seems to be designed for people with brains wired differently to mine. But in my humble opinion there are too many features that lack attention to detail

    I won’t be using Auria again. I’m annoyed at myself that I kept trying to get on with if for long enough for the return period to expire. The more I use it the more I realise it’s designed for somebody else.

    I do like Nanostudio 2 and GarageBand and have no problems using either. I’ve used sequencers since the late 80s. so I may just be stuck in my way, but I think on the whole Auria is over ambitious and features got added before others were polished.

    Sorry for the rant. Its lack of love is fully justified I’m afraid. I really want to like it. I wanted to use it. I bought it after all.

    I have deleted it.

    Aww - and this started so well! I'll give it a miss, then. Thank for the heads up - you've just saved me the best part of £25.

    Perhaps you should wait for the opposite opinions before making any decision?

    I did post in the Auria forums about some issues and the general response was ‘the developer think it should be like this’ which made me realise the developer has completely different opinions on how things should work. Which is fine, I’m just an (ex) user. But it made me realise auria and me are Incompatible.

    Your experiences may be different. =)

  • For me Auria is the best. But I only record audio and try to play tight. Drum sequences/ arrangements of the whole song come from lumbeats. The only midi iwill do in the future is bass tracks. For this purpose it is a very good DAW. Get the fabfilters and you are done if want to make hand made music. I love it
    Cheers

  • @klownshed said:

    @audio_DT said:

    @klownshed said:

    @audio_DT said:

    Do you use it? Worth getting? It doesn't seem to get much love on here, but I've been close to getting it a few times. I'm wondering again!

    The following is just my personal opinion and is biased by decades of using apps like Logic.

    Anyway. Auria Pro has an amazing feature set. I ended up buying the full version as it promised a sampler with EXS support and lots of cool specs.

    However.

    I really can’t recommend it.

    MIDI editing is awful. The piano roll is horrible to use. It can’t loop record. The UI can be unresponsive and glitchy.

    When you add auv3 tracks, every single track responds to MIDI at the same time. As default. You have to go into midi setting every time you add a track and turn off that feature. Every time. Maddening.

    When I have tried to use it to mix audio I keep running into problems and multiple crashes.

    I tried using auv3 MIDI sequencers and the timing is completely off when you record them. And if you add another midi fix it mutes everything else. So for example if I add a rozeta bassline then add a midi monitor, the bassline is muted and nothing will play. Which is just as well as it won’t be in time.

    When you use it for audio you have to zoom in and out all the time to be able to move or edit a region. The regions need to take up half the screen before the tap targets for looping appear. And when you are zoomed in far enough to be able to loop it’s impossible to drag the loop point where you want it because you’re zoomed in too far and lose all sense of position.

    Everything I try ends in frustration. It seems to be designed for people with brains wired differently to mine. But in my humble opinion there are too many features that lack attention to detail

    I won’t be using Auria again. I’m annoyed at myself that I kept trying to get on with if for long enough for the return period to expire. The more I use it the more I realise it’s designed for somebody else.

    I do like Nanostudio 2 and GarageBand and have no problems using either. I’ve used sequencers since the late 80s. so I may just be stuck in my way, but I think on the whole Auria is over ambitious and features got added before others were polished.

    Sorry for the rant. Its lack of love is fully justified I’m afraid. I really want to like it. I wanted to use it. I bought it after all.

    I have deleted it.

    Aww - and this started so well! I'll give it a miss, then. Thank for the heads up - you've just saved me the best part of £25.

    Perhaps you should wait for the opposite opinions before making any decision?

    I did post in the Auria forums about some issues and the general response was ‘the developer think it should be like this’ which made me realise the developer has completely different opinions on how things should work. Which is fine, I’m just an (ex) user. But it made me realise auria and me are Incompatible.

    Your experiences may be different. =)

    I've seen others on the forum not giving it much love, so I think I'll give it a miss. I have Cubasis, NS2, AUM, and Beatmaker 3, as well as all the FabFilter apps, so I'm thinking that Auria might not be needed and I should focus my app buying elsewhere. I'm waiting for the app store to drop the AU version of Electribe Wave. Looks like fun!

  • @audio_DT said:
    Aww - and this started so well! I'll give it a miss, then. Thank for the heads up - you've just saved me the best part of £25.

    FWIW: I use it as my main DAW. I don't have any of those issues described. Perhaps I'm making my music in a weird mysterious way, but for me it "just works". The "turn off midi input" on every midi track is annoying though, but a rather quick manouvre once you've gotten it into your habits.

  • @hellquist said:

    @audio_DT said:
    Aww - and this started so well! I'll give it a miss, then. Thank for the heads up - you've just saved me the best part of £25.

    FWIW: I use it as my main DAW. I don't have any of those issues described. Perhaps I'm making my music in a weird mysterious way, but for me it "just works". The "turn off midi input" on every midi track is annoying though, but a rather quick manouvre once you've gotten it into your habits.

    Damn it, I'm going to have yet another rethink now.

  • @audio_DT said:

    @hellquist said:

    @audio_DT said:
    Aww - and this started so well! I'll give it a miss, then. Thank for the heads up - you've just saved me the best part of £25.

    FWIW: I use it as my main DAW. I don't have any of those issues described. Perhaps I'm making my music in a weird mysterious way, but for me it "just works". The "turn off midi input" on every midi track is annoying though, but a rather quick manouvre once you've gotten it into your habits.

    Damn it, I'm going to have yet another rethink now.

    I just realised that the main difference between my "making music" and the described problems in the other post, I would probably summarise it as "I don't fiddle too much". Thus, if you usually need to fiddle about with minute detail on all the mentioned things you should perhaps just trust that view more than mine. If I'm totally off when I do things I simply delete and re-do it again. I only go in to piano roll to adjust things, not to build. I rarely use advanced audio editing, I mainly record and possibly cut/copy/paste.

  • @audio_DT : it is worth noting that not everyone shares @klownshed’s opinion. For some of us, it is our preferred workstation. I’ve not experienced the problems that he/she has had with timing or difficulties looping.

    The MIDI input settings for tracks is not so troublesome. The only difference from AUM, for instance, is that in AUM MIDI input for a new lane is off until you route something to it. In Auria Pro, input is on when you add a new midi track. So, if you don’t want incoming MIDI being sent to it, you need to turn it off. I think the workflow on MIDI integration it is going to be revisited. It could be more convenient but is not a big deal...especially if one needs the things that AP has that no other app does so far.

    Some people love it and some don’t. If channel buses, tempo changes, integrated audio tracks and MIDI and high time resolution MIDI and audio editing matter, there isn’t anything else with these features yet on iOS. All of the DAW and DAW-like apps on iOS have their flaws, unfortunately.

  • Just bought auria pro and spent couple hours. Still figuring out things but so far I agree that midi editing can be very frustrating. It’s nowhere as intuitive and responsive as the amazing Xequence2. App crashed 3 times in a row when trying to open 2 instances of internal delay fx. I’m really enjoying twin2 synth and mixer ui though..

  • @espiegel123 said:
    @audio_DT : it is worth noting that not everyone shares @klownshed’s opinion. For some of us, it is our preferred workstation. I’ve not experienced the problems that he/she has had with timing or difficulties looping.

    The MIDI input settings for tracks is not so troublesome. The only difference from AUM, for instance, is that in AUM MIDI input for a new lane is off until you route something to it. In Auria Pro, input is on when you add a new midi track. So, if you don’t want incoming MIDI being sent to it, you need to turn it off. I think the workflow on MIDI integration it is going to be revisited. It could be more convenient but is not a big deal...especially if one needs the things that AP has that no other app does so far.

    Some people love it and some don’t. If channel buses, tempo changes, integrated audio tracks and MIDI and high time resolution MIDI and audio editing matter, there isn’t anything else with these features yet on iOS. All of the DAW and DAW-like apps on iOS have their flaws, unfortunately.

    And to add, I fine the audio editing inAP vastly superior to Cubasis’. I have not encountered the problems zooming I or out mentioned by klownshend. Unlike Author iOS DAWs, you can get in and edit at any zoom level from sample level out. You can move audio (and MIDI events) without restriction which allows edits and crossfade sand overlaps not possible in Cubasis. Some people don’t need that, but if you do it is a big deal.

  • I use Auria Pro as my main DAW, and have been using it very happily since 2013. I've completed well over 100 tracks in it and I really enjoy using it - so all I can say is that everyone is different.

    I also own most of the other DAW-like apps (Cubasis, Gadget, GarageBand, NS2) and know them all pretty well. For a final mix there is nothing better than Auria on iOS, period. Maybe when NS2 gets audio tracks it might compete, but none of the others come close when it comes to mixing features.

    I generally like to write in other apps (such as the aforementioned Cubasis, Gadget, GarageBand, NS2) and then export stems to Auria for mixing. I have however sequenced drums in Auria without any frustrations, using the piano roll extensively and in fact Auria has some pretty unique MIDI features such as non-destructive quantize, humanize and swing. I personally find the piano roll OK but it's not as slick as NS2 or Gadget, but probably on a par with Cubasis.

    For audio editing on the timeline it's also the best option by far, none of the other apps come close (Cubasis can't even crossfade or join audio regions).

    Also I find it stable, however I do know that other people have reported crashes so that may be down to having different workflows.

    The MIDI input issue where every channel is live is annoying, but that's a recent change that I hope will get fixed. The lack of loop recording is an issue that has been raised years ago, but apparently can't be changed due to the architecture of the app.

    It's clearly not for everyone, but I think that most people who care about audio features and getting a good mix that they can really control end up using Auria.

  • @Satie said:

    @RockySmalls said:

    @craftycurate said:

    @RockySmalls said:

    @marcuspresident said:
    Do Appstore themselve have any Black Friday promo deals?!

    well there is that 10% extra when you top up yr itunes account from card/paypal ,, don’t know when it is until though.. Imonly allowed myself £25 on it.. so my black fryday binge is limited to £27.50,, come on sugar bytes , wheres that effectrix for £10 deal!! @MonzoPro .. you promised!!

    Sugar Bytes have launched a desktop plugins deal, so let’s hope iOS isn’t far behind. Nothing showing up on App Store just yet.

    ah! arrigato, come on inky, pinky & clyde send me a sugarbytes blue ghost to eat!!

    If Obscurium ever will find it‘s way to IOS? 🤔
    So I have to get it in VST..

    if Obscurium doesn’t then Guitarist won’t either... and I weirdly fancy a bit of that... might be too memory heavy on the ipad GBs though.

  • edited November 2019

    @espiegel123 said:
    it is worth noting that not everyone shares @klownshed’s opinion. For some of us, it is our preferred workstation. I’ve not experienced the problems that he/she has had with timing or difficulties looping.

    I know not everybody has the same opinion, I made that very clear.

    But as for looping, everybody has the same difficulties in that if you want to record audio whilst looping, well, you can't. AP can't loop record so if you have MIDI looping between bars 8 and 17 and want to record some audio, AP will just ignore the loop points when you get to the end of the loop area and continue as if loop/cycle mode was off.

    For timing, try this. Add a StepBud to a track. Set up some notes and some CC steps. Record the MIDI. In time? Every step recorded?

    Not for me.


    The MIDI input settings for tracks is not so troublesome. The only difference from AUM, for instance, is that in AUM MIDI input for a new lane is off until you route something to it. In Auria Pro, input is on when you add a new midi track. So, if you don’t want incoming MIDI being sent to it, you need to turn it off. I think the workflow on MIDI integration it is going to be revisited. It could be more convenient but is not a big deal...especially if one needs the things that AP has that no other app does so far.

    AUM is a different beast to AP but the differences in the way the UI work get to the heart of why AP is so out of kilter with me. Everything you do in AUM is responsive and has delightful little touches. It may make you take more steps than you like, but everything you tap is nicely animated and makes it feel nice. AP has no such animation but ends up feeling much slower. Very basic tasks in AP, like changing the length of a region require a long tap. Long taps should be relegated to secondary features I think.

    Some people love it and some don’t. If channel buses, tempo changes, integrated audio tracks and MIDI and high time resolution MIDI and audio editing matter, there isn’t anything else with these features yet on iOS. All of the DAW and DAW-like apps on iOS have their flaws, unfortunately.

    You are right. AP has an awesome spec list, which is why I bought it.

    Unfortunately for me, I dislike the way AP implements those features. AP just feels alien. It's like a Windows app 'adjusted' for touch.

    And to add, I fine the audio editing inAP vastly superior to Cubasis’. I have not encountered the problems zooming I or out mentioned by klownshend. Unlike Author iOS DAWs, you can get in and edit at any zoom level from sample level out. You can move audio (and MIDI events) without restriction which allows edits and crossfade sand overlaps not possible in Cubasis. Some people don’t need that, but if you do it is a big deal.

    I didn't say there was a problem zooming. The issue is that you have to zoom in to be able to get to any of the tap targets. By the time the loop targets appear on a region in the main arrange screen, only three tracks fit on the screen.

    The same applies for editing MIDI notes. Until you zoom in you can't drag the end of a note to adjust its length.

    And when you do zoom in enough to be able to adjust the length of a note a long press is required which just feels wrong and slow.

    I'm not being snarky about AP, I genuinely wanted it to be good. But as I have repeatedly stated, it doesn't suit me. I feel like the designer and I are wired differently.

    And again, as I've repeatedly stated the opinions are personal but I feel like they're worth sharing. I also stated that @audio_DT should wait for more opinions before deciding to purchase AP or Not to work out whether they share my sensibilities or those of others more.

    And for the record I have always disliked Cubase and all its offspring. Logic had some horrendous UI offences (which have been slowly fixed by Apple since they acquired Emagic), but one thing Logic had from day one was that is was incredibly responsive. Everything was non-destructive and playback never paused.

    In AP, small edits to a region or a MIDI note cause long pauses in audio playback. I hate that.

    NS2 is similar to Logic. You can edit anything without the audio cutting out. That just makes it feel so much better. AP feels klunky by comparison.

    As you say, none of the DAWs or sequencers on iOS are without fault. But APs faults are terminal for me. Not so with AUM or NS2 to mention but 2. I enjoy using AUM. I enjoy using NS2. I really don't enjoy using AP.

    Sorry. :-/

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